I feel totally lost for this entire week. Tell me what should I do after sending my children 2 school which I use to practice yoga in YZ. I really worried. I dare not to tell my husband as I signed up GC December last year.

the same feeling we had for YC MELAKA. you are more lucky than us, at least hope next week can continue pratice.. unlike us……..

notice only to clam yc member…who is going to take over?…new management how to cover expenses?…new management will void old membership…wakeup-lah…don’t dream anymore…face it guys…

To Man
Perhaps we are lucky..but who knows what happens a week later???? 希望在明天。

I must thank you, Jess for posting this notice. Can’t understand why YZ/YC management never informed us through email. In fact I was at YZ Fri evening class, no hint about this. I guess they themselves also disheartened by the turn of events!

ya…thank you very much to jess…for all your effort in keeping us updates on yz progress…in melaka, i am totally black out…. keep it up…

luckily YF still open…

YZ MELAKA TOTALLY BLACK OUT.. NO REFUND, NO CLASSES (ALAN GIVING 3 MONTHS FREE CLASS, AFTER 3 MONTHS, DONT KNOW HOW THEN.. NO ONE TELL US WHAT TO DO.. CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE ELSE CAN PRACTISE YOGA IN MELAKA?

omg.. will it be same like what they did to the another outlet? Annouced close for a week, then close down without any further notice?? Since this is not “First Time”..

Im practice yoga at Cheras on the last day 27-7-08. Some property are taken by people such as hair dryer…
Without cleaner, toilet dirty, studio dirty, no toilet paper…
Thank you yoon teach yoga as normal, i appreciate his profesional very much. A lot of yoga members asked about what happening in YZ, yoon answer is : wait after 7 days.
The notice is not from new management, is a David(supportter TJ)… IS IT THE NEW MANAGEMENT TO TEKE OVER IT??? Im worry about it…

anyone knows whether we can ask credit card bank to stop charging for outstanding under easy payment scheme

is the 3 months class confirmed ? … can alan accomodate all the existing members in just the few classes… Agree with u Man, do updates us anywhere in melaka got yoga classes like yz

This is a crisis, can avoid. But YZ should tell the truth and give an explaining to the members and public. If not, rumours will closed down YZ faster..

Thanks Jess for this info. My hubby and I are member of YZ in Cheras Plaza. Last class we went was 26 July. Already felt the environment there very tense. Everyone was talking about this issue. I didn’t know they are going to cancel all classes this week. Thanks to my consultant, Jess (same name with you) for sms me. At least she’s professional enough to feel responsible for her signed up members.

Really hope everything will be ok after this week. For everyone’s benefit, keep our fingers crossed.

Thanks again for sharing this info.

i am practioners in yz cheras and damas.. Practising yoga has been part of my life now and i am sure a lot of you out there have the same feeling. All of us are really dissapointed at the management and i know a lot of the members out there are looking for new places to practise. Can anyone suggest a good place where we can continue to practise? After all the stories we heard and read about the “lovely” con man – TJ and the management, most of us have lost confidence in the company…Just hope everyone will continue to practise yoga and will not stop because of the changes…

我加入在YC已一年半，今年六月才轉去LIFE-TIME MEMBERSHIP，費用是RM4,000++，有誰可以告訴我該怎麼做?我很擔心RM4,000化為烏有

Tmn Desa yogaclub kena splashed RED PAINT! Yoga comfort too…wat is happening?!

Most of the teachers are good and nice… they still giving class eventhough in this worst situation…

Thousand thanks to them!!

Anybody know how we can refund/ stop the bank from charging the money. i just signed up for GC…. $@^%&^%#

I’m a GC member fr damas. I use to practice yoga 5 days a week just like how i work in my office. This week no class, how to survive? No yoga – no life! Johnny bravo… please help………..

Dear all,
No class for 7 days (maybe forever) is torturing… I still can practice yoga at home by follow the yoga classes from http://www.yogatoday.com. This site provides daily yoga class for free. Go and try it.

it is all a big white lie!!!
the cheques supposedly paid out to the teachers have bounced.
the notice put up saying that the 1 week closure is due to management changes, is only a hoax with the sole purpose of buying time.
nevertheless, we should look on the brighter side of things…i am happy for the knowledge and experience i have acquired, new friends i have been acquainted with and the peace and contentment yoga has brought and will continue to bring to my life…hope some of u share the same thoughts…namaste

dear kp, i am so sorry to put you in this deep shit situation, i promise that i will what i promise to you. i know you will not give up to practice yoga, i won’t give up too. what we can do now is just waiting for the further notice.

Jc, the credit card bank will not stop charging the balance outstanding under easy payment scheme coz’ the full amount have been paid out already. This is how its works, easy payment scheme is between credit card holder and credit card bank and NOT with the shop. As soon as the card is being swipe, the shop will receive its FULL PAYMENT within 3 days, the latest, from credit card bank, then credit card owner must ‘man man’ pay installment on monthly basis.

Yoga Zone will not re open next week. There is no new management. All of the foriegn teachers are being evicted from their homes with no prior notice because rent has not been paid for 3 monthes. All the checks that were given last week bounced. There is no money left. Foriegn teachers are being detained at the border because YZ has not paid their taxes.

Dear practitioners,

What “The Journey” had mentioned is totally true. Cherish the next 5 days you have to practise at your respective outlet. Even if it is just for one hour self practise. Judging from the information that I have collected,I am quite doubtful if there do exist such as a “NEW MGMT” taking over. Think about it guys. Would there be such a case of red paint being spilled at Comfort Zone, Tmn Desa?? Why YZ would still be owing rent?? If there is a New Mgmt, where are they? Why aren’t they paying the rent? Why there’s no announcements about the take over? Shouldn’t there be a press conference? So many others more.

I hope my speculations will not be true. Or else, we all will be doomed!!!

YZ today, is the result of a poorly managed team. I’m a neutral party who observed the way YZ did their business for more than a year. The most fundamental idealogy of their business started wrongly. The whole management is not transparent at all, lack of communication between top and bottom management, no proper market research and feedback from customers, no proper financial planning and risk management. Without a proper foundation, YZ thought they can expand as fast as possible by opening new outlest blindly (apparently they do not know about the law of diminishing marginal return), and to generate as much sales as possible by all means (lifetime membership ftw). Hopefully the new management (if there will be one) could fix this mess.

I’m gonna take a drive to YC Tmn Desa to see for myself if there was really any red paint, as said. Will keep you guys updated. Now my heart is beating with trepidation just thinking about my RM 1488 gone down the drain. And to think it was birthday present too.

to Newbie,

it is true. read sin chew tmrw. it will be published.

Suppose my membership is ended by this Feb 2008 but I was done a BIG mistake to sign-up their GC Membership and now I am still paying the monies monthly under the Credit Card Easy Payment Scheme. OMG! I think I can’t do anything but still need to pay the instalments blindly without attend the classes in YZ/YC. It’s really really a DISASTER for me

Dear All,
I’m not defending for myself, but to the existing team in the management that still stay strong despite of all the anger from members/ employees/ creditors. Please be fair to them, they are my boy friends, Marcus, David; my girl friends, Farah, Sarala, Subha; my wives, Michelle and Lilian.
When classes resume as usual next week, all oif those who so-called obtained the reliable source of information owe them a good apology, you cannot deny their effort ad hardwork at this moment, anyone who’s not mentally strong enough may just collapse and gone insane from some of the provocative and nasty callers, Lilian, you havemy full support.
Dear members, ask yourself one question, if we were to close down YZ, why 7 days? Or else, we could just close the outlets completely without staff to attend to you. Things are planned in this way as I already experience how bad can the damage be when rumours spread. There’s “someone” ( neither name nor position shall be mentioned here yet ) gonna march in to the management office later today and the new team is coming in progressively day after. An official employees’ meeting and creditors’ meeting will also be held ( don’t ask me the date, I can’t make decision for the new management; don’t attack anyone, this will only delay the proccess ).
I’m not SELLING OFF the company because I’m not the only shareholder in this company,I’m selling off my own share to help the current situation ( don’t even think in the way I can get 20million! )Lay Gaik is also one of shareholder, got the feedback from the
blog that she may misinterpreted that I’m selling off the company without her consent, sorry for the misunderstanding. If Lay Gaik is reading this blog, I truly hope that you can contact me personally ( the same number still ), our focus now shall be working together to make sure YZ story continues, let’s bury the hatchet, what do you think? I declare here there’s no bad intention to trap or any conspiracy, I just think back Lay Gaik and me used to be very close buddies, because of the “red-tapes” of some of the ex-employees in the company that made us misundertood each other and worse still, there’s a case. I’m always thinking of the way of re-generating the negative energy to be positive, I already made the first move, truly hope to meet you up soon to work together. If Lay Gaik’s friend’s is reading this, kindly pass her the message, the reason I don’t want to go through the legal advisor is I believe that if we have heart to make it happen, legal fees is only unneccesary costs incurred.

Good Morning!!!! At last u seeking help from Lay Gaik!!

Good Morning!!!! At last u seeking help from Lay Gaik!!Your Marie can help la

i’m YF member in klang,
i agree with ck, YZ not planning at all, what the strategic of business they doing, whole life member can be so cheap n cheaper (from RM5k to RM3k), not aware of the risk will they taking for next coming 4-5years if all member joined for whole life. what are they going to pay for the future expenses. This kind of matter, eventhought form 5 student also know.

Branch follow branch opened, wanna be superman, don’t know how to balance yourself but wana to do tiptoe pose.
is that trying to be the first body to control the whole market of Yoga & Fitness Industrial. wana to tell whole ppl, you are the biggest group in Malaysia or wana to make big money when nowday the trend is Fitness.
Now what happen? superman cannot be”P
one question is that TJ is 陈志刚 ?

Dear very Uglykid; maybe you are stil a kid, not too sure about adult’s matters; anything that can help YZ, protecting the benefits of members and employees, I will do it! You can call it “talking”, “negotiating”,”discussing” with Lay Gaik. Marie already resigned as the company secretary, and she has been helping me too much, till she’s also under pressure now. Dear Uglykid, provocative statement will only motivates me to do better, though you are Uglykid, I know you must still have a beautiful mind, simply because your constructive cricism is good, i love to listen to true voice.

Dear members ( both GCs and Yearly ),
We are not selling off the company to another entity, it’s only my share! The agreement between you and YZ remain the same and valid. It’s not changing OWNERSHIP! It’s not TAKE OVER! Your perception is wrong. Imagine, will changing a manager in the outlet affect the terms in your package signed? NO! will chaging a management team affect your package signed? of course NO!
Be frank, I learned so much about business terms during this period of time, so, do bleieve someone that had learned in the hard way.

TJ, till this stage you are still pointing fingers at others. Looks like you will never wake up and admit yr mistakes! I dun like saying this but whatever happens to you, you DESERVE it! I already knew all this is coming even before it happens. i already expected that the cheque YZ issued, gonna bounce! True enough it did! Stop all yr lies! No miracle neither anything is goin to change in a week’s time like what you mentioned by closing all YZ branches. To everyone that u have cheated before, teachers, friends, yr flings and etc……..we are actually havin the last laugh now! sorry all victims from YZ, but SERVE you right tomato HEAD.

TJ
u might as well sell it off and close it!
new management team? I so do not think anything will be new, unless u and ur freaking team of boy n girl friends get out of the scene!
just piss off! loser!
u r pissing the whole world off, and no one is going to buy ur stupid stories anymore.
talk about yoga, and karma, tell the fucking truth and stop lying!
may u burn in hell!

Stop all yr acting and rubbish comment in this blog! what you have said or mentioned in this blog is all crap! you are tryin to cover-up your greed and lies! there’re no buyer for yr troubled company! so stop lying like a KIIIDDDD!!! Besides owing all yr employees a lot of $$$, you still have a lot of debts to be settled! one of yr centre just got splashed allover with RED Paint yesterday. don’t think nobody knows bout it! Stop seeking for this or that person anymore………and putting the blame on them! you should be grateful til today you are still a free man and not in the lock-up as yet!!!!

changing anything whatever u said will DEFINITELY hurt and affect anything and everything.
moron, wake up and use ur little rat’s brains to think for others!
ppl paid money for ur damn company
ppl worked hard for ur damn company
what did u and ur ppl do for them and the damn company!? FUCKED IT UP!
u r so screwed up
u might as well shut the hell up and stop talking.
i wonder how come in such deep shit situation u still manage to talk bullshit and replyng here….how did u do that? oh yes, coz u dun give a shit about anything, other than U and U!
F U!

Dear Uglykid,
I can understand how angry and desperate you are, again, I’m sorry. But rememeber, if someone you certified dead sunddenly comes alive again, make sure you change name to “gorgeouskid” or “yogakid” to send out positive energy. Wow! great to know you have this super power to know what’s gonna happen in the future, any ideas about the next 6 months forecast growth of the world? It’s truly important for the new management team cause it will affect the consumer’s spending behaviour. Laugh is good, but don’t make it the last, everyday is a brighter day, try to blend more tomato juice following jess’ recipe, help to cleanse.

Ya talk bout Karma and stuff……….. Looks like yr time is up amd this is yr Karma!!!! to those two headed snakes whom are actually victims now, this is yours too. Do you agree our beloved Professional Management Consultant Marie Choo?

i don’t think you are able to laugh for days to come. OF-COURSE it wont be my last and there’ll be more to come by looking at what’s happening to you now! Next 6 months, hahahaha! what a joke! there’ll be no 6 months for you, Con -man! To Pissed, no one wants to buy this polluted name company. you think this Tomato HEAD don’t wanna sell it??? He’s broke! all the $$$ he conned since his teen days are gone and this is what i labeled as his Karma!

Jess formula will only cleanse a normal human beings system but sad to say not yours! It’s too polluted and the only thing that will help to cleanse an animal like you is to put you in where you belong…….the JAIL!

uglykid
let it be
someone is watching and he can just cover his sorry ass and others in his so called team….
i just wondr how many ppl woud just look at them with the deepest sorriness and sympathy….oh then, who r they to blame?
THEMSELVES!
so arrogant and so ego…..what goes around comes around!
u keep on laughing, u deserve to laugh at their faces, dun bother about what they have to shit about! cheers

btw, pls have someone to proof read and check your typo in the notice….
it is s pathetic that you so-called pro out there have blind eyes to ignore such little thing. then it translates into tardiness!
can believe a notice is even being done wrong, on top of being wrong of everything.
sigh….

To uglykid and pissed!, why wasting your energy to angry, especially to someone who is worst as you say? You probably can save your energy and use it after 6 days, and it still has the possibility that you will save the energy forever. Hmm, everyone will do a mistake, more important is they know how to learn from failure. why don’t just give him a chance? Besides, your pissing maybe will make you feel comfortable, but it will never make most of the member of YZ comfortable. Maybe I’m wrong, but think about it. I’m not helping anyone.

P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C

uglykid and pissed.

STOP IT!!!!

Both of you may have NOTHING to do with YogaZone.

That’s why you guys want to see YogaZone go down to drain.
Think about YogaZone’s employees (teachers and staffs) who are under contract.

Are you UGLYKID and PISSED going to help them out?
All the contracted employees are now praying and what you two retards doing are killing of their prayers.

Think about others!!!

oh angry
u r so damn wrong
i am one of the teachers, so mind ur shallow little mind!
we r the ones being killed ok, so what u gonna say about it?
why dun u stop it and start using ur little chicken brains! piss off!
and u think for me since i m one of ur mentioned! duhhhh

AH MI TUO FO!!SIN ZAI SIN ZAI

Dear Pissed!
No wonder you’re so angry here… You’re one of the teachers in YZ/YC. Well, why other teachers is not angry as you are but they keep quiet only?
Mind to let us know how long you’ve been teaching in YZ/YC?

Dear Jess,
I think you should bar all access to your entire blog and suspend it for now. People are abusing your space here to vent their frustrations and anger (although rightly so, in some cases), spin stories and rumours, repeat things that have been posted before, and TJ, who has been avoiding staff sms & phone calls seem to be foregoing sleep to blog his defense .

This is not the whole purpose you set up this blogsite in the first place, right?

I suggest you clean this up and close it temporarily. All this ranting is not getting anywhere, and there is certainly nothing ‘yogic’ about the trail of comments.

To those who still want to be vocal about this issue (since there aren’t any answers at this point but to wait until next Monday), please respect Jess’ patience for letting this escalate and get onto her site until today.
Please start a public forum somewhere instead.

Om Shanti.

YogaJess says: Thanks for you suggestion. There are always both side of story to be told and heard. I don’t see a point why I should clean them up. Things is still under control. I will close the comment box but definitely not at this moment. If you think I should erase the truth, I think Tun Dr. Mahathir ( http://test.chedet.com/che_det/ ) need to do that too. Hmm… somehow I do see some similarities here and Chedet.com. Only time will tell.

I just came back from YC Tmn Desa. Drove around the area but I don’t see any red paint there. Nobody was re-painting the walls also, that is, if you’re wondering if they quickly got people to cover up the red paint.

Have received some photos on Taman Desa outlet that being spilt with red paint yesterday. Really sad to see this…

I have posted the photos at the below as no idea how to send it to Jess.

http://yogalover88.blogspot.com

TJ,
Believe all the teachers, staffs and members’ hearts broken when seeing this and it is scary that the “ah long” keeps on disturbing YZ outlets if it is TRUE that all the YZ outlest going to be re-opened next week. How soon can this be solved??

OMG! Just clicked and viewed the links to http://yogalover88.blogspot.com
WoW! It’s really sad and scary to see that…

newbie, they had a guy painting the wall and scrubbing the floor yesterday evening at about 4pm. Yoga comfort was also splashed with RED paint at Desa.

V wait and see ….V force to trust him loh….Hope he dont bounce his promise ….V can continue our yoga pratice ..

dear all, i have join the latest TTC, what will gonna happen to our cert? I m so afraid that this incident will effect our cert. We all paid RM4800 for the course and this things happened. What a disaster!!! yet now YZ still dare to advertised the 200 International TTC …. what the XXXX…

you are so damn bloody wrong angry! if you are new here pls refer back to the pld comments before you say i got nothing to do with YZ! maybe you are the one who doesn’t know anything! i’m one of the teachers there and i was issued a bounce CHEQUE!!!! understood?????

you are so damn wrong angry! if you are new here pls refer back to the pld comments before you say i got nothing to do with YZ! maybe you are the one who doesn’t know anything! i’m one of the teachers there and i was issued a bounce CHEQUE!!!! understood?????

TJ, you can forget bout’ looking for Lay Gaik. All u wanna do is to ask her to buy yr empty company right! Forget it, she been cheated close to $650K by you. What on earth do you think she’ll trust you again? remember she doesn’t owe you anything. no one does here! Only you owe us! Ask Marie to see if her boss still willing to help you or not!!!c that’s yr only choice………better start begging Mr Tomato Head!

I’m also a Lifetime member of YZ, really felt dissapointed with them, hopefully they will recover their biz soon.

I dunno why we stil at here..?open the outlet but no class and let ppl scold…we really got new buyer?even im young and less experience in the society also felt doubt…TJ,wher r u?im tired…we really tired…everybody really really tired already…we still need to wait til when?y stil don hav any announcement for the new management?when can get back the last mth half pay and 1 year epf and socso?im cried…i try to call other outlet they oso cry…why?we stil stay at here for wat?pls…somebody tell me…pls…my heart was tired…cant breath..!

Just got a call from friend that the Sin Chew Jit Poh had published that outlet which got splashed the RED Paint. Anybody know Chinese can look to it for more details on today SCJP paper.

It’s pity to see once a well known company to have such a day. Less and less ppl are now in YZ office. from the days 40~50 ppl until today not more than 5 in the management. for the outlet, they are struggeling to know what will happen. I received their SMS and MSN until i am unable to answer back to them. Hopefully the so call new management are able to bring back the glory days of YZ.

Dont ask me about what I know. Try to guess who am I… drop me a call if you are able to guess who am I …

dear mama, how long or not doesnt matter, but we r the affected ones and now members suffer, becoz of? POOR MANAGEMENT!
some instructors chose to be silent because they are being silly about the whole, perhaps pressure to lose their job. i m not worried because I am an international qualified and recognized instructor so why worry about YZ? there is a bigger world out here, and these other instructors only have no choice but to suck up to YZ! sad but true! u get the point?

dear peace, it is ppl like who like to cover up the story especially the ugly truth instead to tell lies and rosy covers to get ppl to feel sorry for u in YZ.

dear jess, I m glad u r a just and rational person for allowing people to tell their stories. trust me, I do not put u down and I tell the truth and this is only some frustration from me and not from all yet.

Tj, if you think that someone are trying to distort the fact so they can destroy you and yz, you should announce the new management as early as possible to avoid all the skeptical inquiries and criticizes. With all the bad incidents being happened now , more and more ppl are losing faith in you, 7 days is a long period, is long nightmare for everyone of us.

Make the announcement now, to clear all the our doubt, to prove that you keep your word, prove ppl you are not crook. Act now before it is too late.

Hi mang0, in this crisis time, should i say ‘nice to see you here’. i miss your blog ‘Transform Life’, why the blog can’t be opened now? (sorry, i know this doesn’t relate to the topic, but i got no chance to ask her).

Fei….
what he needs to do is to clear all debts, do u know how much he owes ppl? I dunno either, but I know with so many instructors in hand, the amount is already quite big, now talk about oweing electrical bill, water bill, rental, supplier, bla bla…
New management? I doubt it…..so he should stop coming up with new covers for old stories!
AIN”T WORKING!

yes, as i said Tj you must make the announcement NOW who is going to take over yz, otherwise i don’t think anybody can believe you now..

or the personnel fr new management should raise your voice here NOW to show that you care for your new business and your new customers (members here) too.

maybe someone can translate this page.

http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/38699?tid=6

I am the GC member from Tmn Desa and have paid around 4++k for the GC. B4 that, I’ve paid for one yearly membership.

Even though TJ owes money to many people, I don’t think he can come up with the total payment to pay all in one time. Even though the new management takes over, the outstanding debts will not be settled in one goals. Usually the process is lengthly, and it’s gonna take time to pay them all off. I can say the process can easily drag for at least 3 years… provided the company is still around.

Even if he gets sued for the debts he owes to his creditors, staff, teachers, etc, guess who’ll be paid first if ordered by court?…….Creditors.

Life is too short to worry everything. If you don’t have faith in TJ, just move on. If things dont work out, it won’t. There’s not much you can do for now, except to file complaints at EPF, SOCSO, LHDN and/or labour dept (if u qualified) to keep the records on file.

Hope the company can survive during this crisis….then there’ll be hope in getting your money back *gradually*, and the members can continue practice yoga. If not, so long every member in the club.

I suspect TJ cannot announce because the buyer/new management has not sign on the dotted line. Verbal assurance and commitment (eg. closure for only 1 week, extension of membership and recognition of vouchers etc etc) should not be discussed on the blog or relied upon until they sign on the dotted line. I think TJ is really trying to pacify everyone. If new mgt/buyer go back on their words, things will only get worse and all teachers, members, staff and the public will get angrier. I think given the state of affairs and condition of the company now, one week may not be realistic. We shd not be misled by the buyer/new mgt.

7 days…
can u all just do anything u want by next Monday?
he need times

if u all care about ur MONEY and YZ FUTURE
pls stop making any rumours

to LyDm,
Everyone here have their freedom to write and tell the comments,No 1 like to worsten the situation.Who the hell are u can stop everyone to do that.Somemore u always stand one sided(TJ),its unbalance,practise more and more yoga or for the rest of ur life,u might gain the balance of mind,body,soul .But doesn’t mean u already yoga minded ho!

Hope every things will be fine next week. No point to pin-point anyone right one as the matter cannot solve.
TJ I take your words however don’t wish you dissapointed US AGAIN…

Opss! i thought Pissed! is a front liner only, as you voiced like so immatured and not professional, just keep on scold and scold and scold only, nothing, nothing true. i was shocked that you are an international qualified and recognized instructor and do not need to worry about YZ, hope i did not attend your class before, as you do not talk like other teachers that i always like to attend their classes. From what you have said, you seems like saying other instructors are silly only, you are so good. then PLEASE GO BACK to your country for good, do not suffer here, should be good for you.

Dear All members,
Hari Om, It won’t bring any goods to anyone just to blow your frustration. Do you think you will get your pay, your refund by making nasty remarks? Please don’t be so silly. The only way to solve any issues is by communicating….in a civilised way. I wish current issues will come to an end soon with a positive resolutions from various parties. Let’s wait for good news from TJ, give him some time……..be Cool. “Give your personility a lift, you lift the whole world”.

Yoga Club are a cheating scum…

Perhaps the LIFETIME membership is not talking about your own personal lifetime.
It means the YOGA CLUB LIFETIME itself.

to Ma ma.
Those teachers stay quite and calm,doesn’t mean they not angry or as worrie as those teachers has comment here.I believe,if they really voice out and take action,it gonna be very powerful and strong .Thanks alot for those teachers have commented here either positive or negative.we trully appreciated.

Visitor & LyDm’ words really gave me some hope *with fingers crossed*
It’s true that there’s no point worrying and guessing here, we shall see next week.

Private msg to Fei: Hi, my previous domain has expired, it’s taking forever to be renewed and I got frustrated, so I started a new one (my nick here). Thanks and good to see you here.

what else is there to wait from TJ? we have given him too much time and waited long enough! dun ask us to shut our mouth! we are just telling the truth and letting everyone here know what is goin on. Am actually shock that TJ did not mention anything bout the BOUNCE CHEQUES issue! I really dun understand why cheques were being issued to us but the fact is there’s zero cash in the account. The truth is there are no buyer or so called new management! Nothing is goin to happen next week. Same old story as TJ is not goin to admit his mistakes and still be pointing fingers at others. Lastly, Marie are you goin to introduce yourself?

YogaJess: Your other commentsssss using other nicknamessssss is in my spammers box now. Please don’t repeat the childish act again. If you check one of TJ’s comment, he did admit his mistakes and is now trying to work out something. p/s: I am not on anybody’s side.

TJ,

I wondering how can you be founder and you dare to reply here by not solving any problem.

All members cheated by you, now everyone got to find a way to report the lost.

Damn TJ .. refund our money! go to the hell and tell your *toot* story to the devil ..

TJ, I am a friend of someone who sms you this afternoon to talk on a solution to your current challenges. I am the one who told him about all that has been happening. I just spoke to him and he mentioned that you didn’t sound interested. I wish you luck if you have really found an investor or talk to this friend immediately. It is not for you or me but for the sake of everyone.

OMG! I saw the picture Yoga Lover posted in her blog, and I am totally speechless! I guess they cleaned up the mess pretty well, as I didn’t see even a single spot of red paint at YC Tmn Desa when I drove past…*speechless*

TJ, u got no balls!!

YogaJess says: YZ got a lot of fitballs! You mean those balls doen’t belongs to TJ?

Dear all,
Sorry to reply late. Whatever TJ says will be excuses, then why do you expect me to reply and then get attacked again?
Please refer to the “peace on earth”, I had my feedback of the red-paint at Taman Desa this morning. It was cleaned up quickly because my parents were there to help to clean up too, they know that today the representative of the new management is going to pay a visit, the “red-paint” will only make the transition impossible to go through. If it’s not being repainted immidiately, then you all will blame YZ efficiency; painting too fast you then mention it’s covering the situation.
Luckily, the visit this afternoon was positive, thanks to the smily and happy Taman Desa’s team, despite of what happened, you all had deleivered the best in your duty.
I only managed to reply now cause having a long discussion with the representatives. They had been following the blog very very closely, it was printed out in sequence and showed to me, they highlighted certain issues which the relevant people have to answer during the meeting. FYI, the meeting for employees is confirmed on Thursday, I’m trying my best to convinice to keep the payroll up-to-date and to ensure the resigned staff salary be paid also. Aren’t that what you all want? What do you all want? I don’t want the transition to be shaky/ uncertain, then of course, in your mind again, TJ is making up story again…
The representative had englihtened me very much today, YZ is not a country, it’s a private limited company, and also a seperate entity, TJ and YZ are two seperate entities, YZ is the company that owe you but not TJ personally.
I’m taking every sinle steps that I can to prevent further damage but some of you won’t let go any single chance to attack, what will you eventually get? I’m not the person to announce the new management team, it’s the new management team that will call for the employees meeting and the creditors meeting. It’s only 5 more days to Monday! Do whatever you want after that, this is the moment to work together, sharpen your attention, who are trying to destroy every single opportunities now? Remember, it’s the reverse actions to those who trying their very best to make up stories, when things are settle, be prepared to answer.
Dear Uglykid,
Do make sure the figure before you posted, again, your figure is misleading. Furthermore, how do I cheat someone if the share sale ageement was signed and stamped and the share certificate has been given? I never want Lay Gaik to buy the whole company, you think too much.
Use your brain too while you asked other to do so, who will issue the cheques and did this? I truly see your ugliest side now, your name is a perfect match to your comment, keep this name forever. I just need to bear with you for a little while, if it happens ( which you never believe will happens, well, ugly characters come with ugly energy, it’s completely if you want to ruin yourself, but don’t ruin YZ, the existing employees and the members, luckily you are out of YZ already, YZ looks prettier in the future ) make sure you don’t run far far away. 5 more days.
Why want to create chaos? The compony never cease operations, it’s written very clearly in the NOTICE. Dear members, I’m taking every step to make sure your interest is protected, my apology for used to have a teacher like Uglykid in YZ, I’ll make sure the new management alleviate the benchmark/ standard of teachers in the future. Last but not least, if I’m writing craps/rubbish, you must be the craps/rubbish lover. Enjoy!
Dear Fei and Pissed,
We have been in this Jess’ blog for weeks, who is constrcutive; who’s deteriorating; who’s neutral party, after all these while, it’s pretty clear.
Every step I take is to settle things asap, I will believe and I still believe, and I wil always believe, though not “believe in believe”.

Uglykid,
By calling Marie to introduce herself, why not your goodself? Anyway, I know your chinese name must be 丑孩子

Dear uglykid, I’ve been noticing your posts lately and have been wondering…..who is this so-called ‘Professional Management Consultant Marie Choo’?
I find it weird why you are promoting her for multiple times as ‘Professional’
How professional is she? What qualifications does she hold? Are you able to list it out?
People rarely label themselves as ‘Professional’…unless they’re known worldwide
I’ve developed a curiousity in her…would you please let me know, how professional is she?
As from what TJ had written above, she’s only a ‘Secretary’
If she’s really that ‘professional’ as what you had stated, why would YZ become like this?
Why didn’t she advice TJ in improving the bussiness and let YZ drop into this kind of situation?

I’ve received sms last night and this morning that DAP (Tan Kok Wai) will be having a meeting at Cheras Plaza outlet (not sure with YogaZone or members as different messages received). Guess someone or more than that couldn’t wait till Mon and already taken action. Things really beyond control now and hope it won’t worsen the situation, but really in doubt so….

Dear TJ:
My wife be with YZ Cheras from very begining and turn Life member last yr. I known ur situation form begining of story. My suggestion is’ u just need to calm urself for this moment n stop to explain till 3 Aug’. Goodman never die with rumors, but bad guy gone with the wind of sinness in their spirit.

Hi all,
This would be kinda long-winded, please bear with me. Thanks.

1) I’m currently chasing and waiting for a refund payment for my gf from YZ after a YIN Yoga TTC was canceled. However, this has not been very successful.

2) I’ve spoken to the PIC of TTC, Ms. Lee from accs and finally, Mr. Marcus.

3) I spoke with Mr. Marcus on 25 July and he told me to give him till monday, 28 July to prepare the cheque and that it should be ready by then. Up till that day, Mr. Marcus has been very polite and helpful in his reply. However, this changed when on Monday i called asking for the cheque, he asked if i’ve seen the notice.

4) I said yes and so? I wanted my cheque and the closure has nothing to do with it. He replied the new management is taking over and all operations of the company will be suspended for 1 week.

5) According to him, this was a decision reached on 27th July after a management meeting. I pressed on for my cheque but he can’t give me an answer, just kept on telling me to wait for the new management.

6) I asked him then, is he in the new management setup? He said no. So i asked him again, then how would he know that the new management will honour his, now empty, promise to me? He can’t answer but to ask me to wait for the new management.

7) I told him then to give me the number of the PIC of the new management as, obviously, he is no longer in any position to do anything useful. He told me the new management is an external consulting firm but he’s unable to give me the numbers. So i asked for TJ’s number cos according to him, TJ may or may not sold his shares to the new company, it’s only a new management taking over.
But he refused to give TJ’s number to me as well so i kept pressing on, to the point of begging of getting our own money back. After a while, he slammed down the phone and refused to pick up my subsequent calls.

9) I believe there are others out there would share my predicament and are desperate to get their money back. Do contact me at yzowesmemoney@gmail.com to discuss if we are able to do this collectively as a group to pressure them. If you know a way to help us get back our money, do email me as well.

Thank you for reading.

ryan

I read most of the comments. mostly of YZ mbr worried abt their $$$, and some of them worrying abt their Yogi life. As what I read the notes tht my wife attanded TTC(YZ Cheras with Guru), Yogi practice a peace in mind thru physical ex.If the thing come to worse, what u lose?
1.$$$ thts it!
let go la, dont spoilt ur emotion.
2.No place to go for practice Yoga?
Many of u guys n gals ar TTC graduate
can get some nice place near YZ Cheras
n take turn to practice la.
what a big deal, everything happen is for good! U guys can plan for Yoga Retreath in some nice resort or Yoga Trip to India Himalaya Yoga Velley. Coz of mismanagement of YZ n YC. Face it n let it go! If u cant, get the money back with gaining power, don’t splash paint like what a coward behavior.

wht happened has happened … live wit it and get a life to replace yoga life …

Legal action: A group of teachers went to ask for legal advice. If we want to take action we have to hire a private industrial laywer to file a civil suit. If we all put a little money in to share the financial burden we have a case.

haha GOOD RYAN! 好样子！！！

aiyo, ‘TEACHER’ don’t hide n seek la! show ur ID at this critcal moment if u want to voice-out！ Those hiden name will make things worse!

I’ve been practicing yoga at yogazone for 6 months. I’ve always enjoyed the classes. What has happenned this past week has been really unfortunate for everyone. Hope matters can be resolved and yogazone will resume business as usual next monday. Looking forward to a new and improved yogazone.

Dear TCB, how professional and what Qualifications Marie’s holding…..you gotta ask her! I refer her as professional cause she refer herself as one all the time! Like what you said…..then she must be a pro! Her name is even listed on some of TJ’s company! As for what she has done for YZ and TJ then you must ask her or TJ yourself!!!!!!! Reason she left cause our tomato head expect her to work for free! Understood?????

To those who wanna complain/curse/spread rumours/slam YZ, please do it after next Monday. i know many ppl are disappointed with YZ. Me too as i am one of the member of YZ~~but what i hope is..there really will be a new management taking over YZ so that all our membership and effort will not go down to the drain..so..guys..if u are not helping..plss..dun make things worse by posting negative thoughts and rumours to affect others.Try to look at the bigger picture on the whole thing. U will probably see it differently with lights.. Thanks.

Like some of you I became a GC member 2 years ago. I looked at the membership fee felt it was cheap and did not make business sense. I decided to take it as it was equivalent to 3.5 years of yearly membership and as long as the company do not go under in this time frame I was okay.

What I observe is the fast expansion without proper management especially into the fitness business where investment in equipment is very heavy waas exteremely risky. The funds raised by selling GC memberships went into the expansion.

With the red paint situation its looks bad as money must have been borrowed from Ah Longs.

All of us members and teachers have contractual relationship with the company. So if the company goes under we kiss our money good bye. Suing a bankruot company is fruitless.

Unless we are able to view the Balance Sheet of the company and also look at the Profit & Loss statements we cannot judge whether the company will survive and whether anyone is willing to inject money into the company.

But from the feedback of various teachers,the money owed to the tax department and epf for some time deducted from employees really means the company is scrapping the bottom.

I know its frustrating for all of us and I am glad this blog provided a forum for people to vent their frustrations.

In the end the key will be whether there is really someone who is actually willing to invest further in the company.

Can anyone advise, if the new management take over YZ, is YC Melaka will reopening?? i think there is rare chance, as the advertisement has been removed. i feel upset, for me money is not the main concern, the main concern we couldnt find such a nice teacher teaching us Yoga. i am fresh of yoga student, i started learn yoga with YC melaka since 2 months. when i start love yoga & found it is benefit to my health.. why suddently bcome like this..

Dear TJ, stop all your Crap! you may seem calm when you are writing but dun expect all of us here to believe whatever that’s been written by you! yr own mother also came to office and told us bout your behavior at home. refuse to face your problems, showed temper by throwing things around! Don’t think you can fool us at least me! Am not stupid to take or listen anything that’s coming from you! Yr chinese name should have changed to TJHIN CON MAN!!!

When I first step foot at the YZ Weld 3 months ago, it wasn’t the ambience that attracted me to take up yoga but my determination to learn yoga. I lead a fast life and have no time to practice yoga but YZ with its capable and remarkable set of instructors, I have a lot to gain. Amanda & Jazzlyn taught me poses that I myself was surprise that I was capable of doing. Not only did they teach us but they also motivated us. But alas, few weeks after I took up the yearly membership the both of them were leaving YZ. And I’m glad for them that they left otherwise look where is YZ heading for??

TJ, teachers/instructors are your biggest assets. They are the ones that can either pull in or pull out your members hence your $. Why did you have to wait so long to take action? One year of EPF, Socso, etc. were not paid and yet you did not rectify that problem. If you had, it would not have led to the current situation.

The foreign teachers. Don’t you think they will be better off elsewhere. Dr Ameen, where in Malaysia do you have a qualified doctor as a yoga instructor. And yet YZ had him. Pari, Matthew, Lila and others whom I’m not familiar with, for all you might know becos of them new members like me were signing up. A few of my friends from the corporate world who attended some of these classes with me were keen to sign up but when they saw YZ having problems they have since moved over to Pavillion. Say in a few years when this set of foreign teachers look back they will not have nice things to say about Malaysia, YZ in particular. They might even end up saying YZ is a nightmare. Imagine what would that do to your reputation!!

You were too busy expanding that you never saw what was happening in your own backyard. Do you really have a strong HR & finance team or is it made up of your own friends and clique. As a CEO/director or whatever, you should have drawn a line between employer and employee. Obviously you had not and now its your own people, staff, etc who are pulling you down.

TJ, you build YZ, you should have built your staff as well. You should have asked ‘why’ at that time, not now when its critical.

Well I have news for you…its not too late. If you have faith in yourself and if you ‘believe in believe’ or whatever that means, I hope you have already drawn up a master plan for ‘damage control’. Pay your teachers and front desk ppl first cos they are the ones running the show. Motivate your front desk to act as consultant as well cos they are the front liners of a company, not the consultant. The consultant are only interested in getting us signed up then they ‘dump’ us. If you believe you can come out of this mess, then target to have your timetable online latest by 3pm Friday. Get your outlets running. Have confidence in yourself. Don’t sleep for the next few days, in fact you should not be sleeping at all till this mess is resolved. Start reading Stephen Covey’s 7 habits of highly effective people. It will do you good. In fact I should not be telling you this. You should have known all these already!

If YZ is the lifestyle place and the best wellness centre prove it that you can maintain your vision.!!

hey TJ you better stop sittin at home and get yr ass out of the chair and go to cheras now! The People from the press, NTV7 and DAP (Tan Kok Wai) are there now asking for the truth and answers! you are in deep shit! seems like the whole world will know bout it tonight!

uglykid, the meeting at Cheras outle just over and heard that a number of press and media were there. Will check with those ppl attended and update later.

YZ is in hot soup now and i wonder how come TJ still hv time n mood to write so much n defending himself here. Isn’t he suppose to work on with the “NEW MANAGEMENT” IF there is one? BTW, YZ do not need to close for a week if TJ is considerate enough, he shd ensure a smooth take over without keeping suspend to all innocent members, where is your yoga value? Most members are bearing with it but that doesn’t mean we will not be angry. Is easy for TJ to say YZ n TJ is a seperate entity, sound like that is the end of YZ……just wash yr hands off ahh??? I felt tt you hv missed managed the fees we paid!!! Think about it Mr.TJ….

Dear Leonard,

I’m not sure your comment @ 30th July 2008, 9.41am (haha GOOD RYAN! 好样子！！！) was for me, but if it’s, i would like to know what do you mean by that?

From your response @ 9.33am, it seems that you’re implying that those who practice yoga should just let go of whatever issues that are bothering them cos that’s how a yoga practitioner should behave. Acknowledge and let go.

I’m not a yoga practitioner and i have no such philosophy. No matter what your belief and life philosophy are, as a human being with integrity, you should, amongst others, honour your promise to others. If your promise is to refund the money, then honour it.

That’s all i’m, and i believe others (staffs, teachers, members), asking for. Return to us what’s rightfully ours.

thanks.
ryan

Anyone atteded the meeting? let us known the out-come?

Ryan; I’m proud of ur courage to voice-out ur and mb most of the other sound! I hv no mind to critiz ur or the rest behavior but at least, at this moment, the more rumours, YZ gone faster. at least, after 3 Aug. and sorry if I hurting ur feeling.Sincerely!

That is no way to pinpoint each other. I m pitty on TJ, without any research, the businese moving too fast.
Diagnostic Management team
The management system is not suitable for yoga businese, is suitable for institut,college and university. there is too many staff, teachers waiting for salay.If not closed now, will closed soon.refer to M’sia style- education francaise will last for long time.

Just got update that Tan Kok Wai managed to have a tele-conversation with TJ. There will be another meeting tomorrow @ 1:30pm at Cheras Plaza outlet which TJ will attend to discuss the matter with all the YZ teachers and employees. 3 members been appointed just now as representative of members to attend this meeting.

The NTV7, 8TV and Utusan M’sia were attended the meeting just now.

That’s all I knew from the attended member…

i just come back from cheras branch there will be a meeting between TJ, Tan Kok Wai(DAP) and representatives from CG and yearly member at 1.30pm tomorrow (31/7) pls come to show yr support

Pussies can only hide behind their mamas.

I m pitty on GC members.There is no free lunch in the world.Hope that class can on immediately. If no staff and teachers willing to work, TJ yourself and your supporter hv to teach. The routine work, volunteer menber and teacher can do it. If no cleaner, volunteer member bring their maid to do it.

isit everything after 2ml the meeting will settle oredi?isit we can get back our pay?our epf,socso…etc?isit DAP Tan Kok Wai will help us?he will rescue us out frm the HELL?
Dear newbiz,thanks for ur praise to frontdesk but i hav to let u kno is actually consultant they r more hardworking than us(i mean in my club,others dunno?)n they r always come out help us to settle complaint…when peak times,they will help us to arange studios n members oso!they always take k to us n we r work in a teamwork like family…just wan to let u kno!thank u!
Dear TJ,isit we can see the light(hope) again?u wont empty promis again?

YOU CALL YOUR STAFF BOY FRIENDS AND GIRL FRIENDS, YET PAYMENT TO STAFF WITH BOUNCE CHEQUE… NOT ONCE BUT SEVERAL TIMES… YOU ARE ONE HECK OF A FRIEND INDEED. FACE FACT.. YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION IS WAY TOO CRITICAL AND YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO ESCAPE REALITY. CHANGE OF MANAGEMENT.. CENTRES CLOSED FOR 1 WEEK.. WHAT DIABOLICAL IDEAS HAVE YOU GOT NEXT… COME FACE ALL OF US AT CHERAS TOMORROW

为什么会关门的。。。
星期一来时看见门口贴着“休息”两字。。。
我是四月二十七号签的。。。
我还签了终身的。。。
我真是怕会化为乌有。。。
如有什么事请call。。。
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Pity….
no point rant in front of him….he has no heart for anyone only to himself!
lets’ see when he is going to dive into his own shit hole!
I am no waiting to see that…..

TJ, i have been attending classes at YZ Damas for about 6 years. You were one of my first teachers there. Your classes were always popular & full & i remember you were quite a nice guy – always spent time speaking to your members, always in the studio. As the place got popular, you disappeared & a whole lot of outlets opened up. I hear also that you became arrogant as biz got bigger – stopped doing yoga, lost sight of reality & got greedy. What a shame! Over the years, at Damas esp, i thought you had really gotten it right…. fabulous teachers, great staff, wonderful array of students. If you had just kept it within the 2-3 studio’s, not introduce unrealistic lifetime schemes & kept your heart in it! You would’ve gained so much recognition & respect for your contribution to society. Instead, now you are incessantly cursed & will be remembered as a liar & a cheat & an arrogant b****** And i agree…. you have also left a bad taste in the foreign teachers’ mouth — word will spread…
What a shame, you have lost it all.

I am surprised you are posting here. Aren’t you being advised not to? I don’t understand why you are doing it. You are just making everyone more angry. Less is more. & using your mum & dad in the post is cheap btw!
“Thx” for enlightening everyone with biz sense – yes YZ & TJ are separate entities but you are responsible for YZ! Members CAN sue you if you have been negligent- either in a civil or criminal court.

为什么门口贴着休息的？？我是四月二十七号注册的。还是终身，那个好心人可以告诉我啊～求求你们。（0126621055）

Dear HAR
I am so glad I never have to face a pig’s brain person like you.
Keep talking crap, whatever you said do not bother me.
You can keep on with whatever your “thoughts” could be coz u never would figure out….I/we wonder why….
DUHHHHH!

Dear teachers, if your classes are resume on 4 Aug, please make sure that all of you get a good, solid explanation and actions on the bounced cheques from TJ before you all resume work. He is still keeping quiet about this topic. As a member I would certainly be very happy if the centres are open on 4 august,but looking at the scenario where most of you teachers can hardly survive now, please ensure you all put these right first before getting con further.

No reason for bounce pay chqs, unpaid EPF, SOCSO! What’s going on Mr.TJ? Stop defending yrself, stop playing games, NOT FUNNY at all. Anyone in business knows the indications….U played us out!You will never gain trust anymore. This is an expensive mistake u hv made.You can’t even afford to pay the cleaners two weeks before the notice of closure….what else do you want to defend??? Appear yourself n tell the truth, dont think u are gentleman enough! Very disappointed with you, Mr.TJ…

No point you guys make such a big huha, it will end up Yoga Zone Close Down, staffs cant get their salary, EPF etc, members cant enjoy yoga class, supplier cant get their money, ppl losing their job etc. Think twice…

I think we all gonna wait till 4 Aug for the announcement and hopefully it will have a good answer to all the members. Especially those GC Members.
GOD please help and blessing all of us.

What about YC melaka? i am still putting hope it will reopening?

Apparently the new buyer(if there is one) is taking over the business, but after reading all this Facts? Truth? Stories? it will makes the buyer even more uncertain. Don’t u thing it will only making this situation worst?? No one is hoping to get bad news, neither teachers, staffs nor members. Can we all just says no more & wait for 5 more days?

Wake up guys, YZ is finished. No way the teachers are going to get back their salary etc. Mr.TJ already said YZ is a Sdn Bhd. No money means close shop…no one holds responsibilities! If YZ can pay all debts including cleaners salaries, then, it never have to temporary close for a week. Is just a game to make YZ fall gracefully. Who knows what excuse after 3rd Aug? I hope i m wrong but why are there so many big companies including banks being taken over without having to close for a week? What difference does it make to close a week for NEW MANAGEMENT to takeover???? Only Mr.TJ knows the best…….

Daer JC
As u said the representatives fr GC and yearly members will attend the meeting tmr so we just wait outside and hope for the best new????

lol….
two days ago….
i tot this is getting more and more interesting

one day ago…….
this is getting more and more ridiculous

today…
getting out of control….

wats with all the yama and niyama ???
why spend so much time “parroting” on line ..instead of taking care of things like an adults???
SIGH……

but …..but ..it was funny though!!!

dun get me wrong though…i’m not siding anybody…but..all i wanna say is…this can keep on , but it’s not gonna change watever that gonna’s happen, why not step out and solve it???instead of spending so much freetime online???…..hehehehhe

my frens told me YZ close for a week but i dont believe so yesterday and today i try to go a few outlet to check and c so i found out cheras and sri petaling outlet was close the gate and without any notice?just taman desa outlet is open and i try to communicate with the staffs there but they just told me management was under restructuring others than that not sure anymore…ITS WEIRDS!!

hi Tj..we can understand the situation rite now n hav lots of hope on u..we will support till we can..but at the same time we hope u can try to understand our problems also..we r working everyday but really feel very bad when we didnt get our full salary…but any how thanks a lot for still giving us support n encourage us..we hope eveything will be coming bk normal..but just cant understand why this people cant wait for just one week n love to make noise? hmmm….humans…any how..u dont feel bab or worry bout tis…just think how to solve this problem n we r waiting good news from u..tc..

Dear Candy,
I had face the same problem with you and I’m a Cheras outlet’s member.
Strat from Monday until today i try to call them but seem like nobody pick up the calls and i went there to have a look in my lunch time this afternoon but their gate was closed…
I just renew my yearly package only,don’t tell me they are really close up alreday!
Anyone know more details about this?

Things getting worse now, Ntv7 news already reported the cheras incident.

Sin Chew 星洲日報 keep on reporting the news.
This is tmr news on Sin Chew..
http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/76233?tid=1

If new management really keen on take over yz, pls expedite the management setup process, 7 days period definitely has adverse effect to yz!

I can’t believe it, the new management letting all these happen! Is the new management really exist??

China Press headline in the night newspapers.

why no newspaper report YC melaka????Pity all the YC melaka members.

Jess, the news mention your blog too, later everyone might be talking here. Get ready for the surge of traffic volume!

sorry people u face the yz malacca sakit…where is TJ? No people on earth wants to invest in yz can’t make money life member is murah tak boleh hidup…stupid idea on life member ambil duit utk rolling…100% YZ is close forever tak boleh roll tutuplah…take it

Jess your website is popular now.

I’m also one of the GC member. I really don’t understand why u all just can’t wait until next week to make noice or seek for legal action!!!! What is the point to call media and press to attend the meeting at Cheras today??? It doesn’t help at all and it will only make things worse!!!! Anyone manage to get back their salary or membership fee after the meeting??? Pls, calm ur mind …. just for 4 more days….

Go to sleep all.

http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2008-07-31&sec=malaysia&art=0731mb61.txt

Hi MR TJ , i am not sure you still remember the letter that i sent you on September 09, 2007 ..i predicted your company wont be able to survive for long if you continue your “style” doing ur business. i dont mind to share it with others now.

Below is what i wrote to mr TJ on September 09, 2007:

Hi Mr TJ

I have had very bad experience when my first joined Yogazone. My case was published on in year 2006 and eventually it has been solved.

Since I have made such complaint in year 2006, I would expect the same problem will not be repeated, but it is so sad to say your management never change the way they work..

I received a call from one of your consultants(Danny) saying that yogazone was having a promotion in the month of May. He persuaded me to convert my one-year package to one of the package below:

RM4888 (Life package For one outlet only ) or

RM5888 (Life package For all yoga clubs ) or

RM6888 (Life package For all Yoga Club and Yoga Zone) or

RM9888 (Life package For all YC , YZ and Yfitness) .

Besides, I was told this promotion would be valid until 31/05/2007.
On 20/05/2007, I went for classes as usual and I was informed by the agent that their management had suddenly changed their decision; the promotion would be ended on 20/05/2007.

I have explained to them (Danny and Nicole) that I need longer time to think due to I have a very bad experience with Yogazone. I have told them up front that if the packages depreciate within a few months I will definitely make complaint to public media. (It happened on me in year 2006).

After a long discussion with your agent, I decided to sign up since I was told that I won’t be able get such great offer after 20/05/2007.

In July, I heard from one of your consultants saying that new comer only need to pay RM 4888 and they would be entitled to have free flow. I checked with Danny, but he said otherwise.
On 08/09/2007,I checked with another consultant. I was so surprised that new comer only need to pay RM 4200 and they are entitled every outlet for life.

How does this RM4200 work?
Nicole told me that they are selling at the price of RM 5888 (Life package for all outlets) ,plus ,one year free membership ( it doesn’t really make sense to me since this is a whole life package, and the funniest part is yogazone will help new members to sell this so called “FREE” membership to other customer at the price of RM 1188 ). In addition, RM 500 cash rebate will be given.

In other words, in order to get a life time membership for all outlets, every new comer only required to pay RM 5888-RM1188-RM500 = RM4200.

Since I have invested RM 4888, I asked for free flow from Miss Nicole, she needs me to pay RM1000 extra.

In my opinion, if Yogazone keeps running business without changing the old style, I am afraid all customers will give up yogazone and eventually end up with BANKRUPTCY.

Well, a good answer given by Miss Nicole is :

“ Yogazone’s business is doing very well, and I have many customers coming in, you don’t have to worry for us, I don’t mind you ADVERTISE via public media for Yogazone. You are welcome to do it. With your advertising, I guess more people will know us”

I am not sure how you train your staff and I think this is the worst services I have ever had.

anyone have TJ photo ?

Show us your photo, IF YOU ARE A MAN!!!! You should give us an explaination now!!!!!!

I woke up this morning thinking that all this was just a bad dream.. however when I wondered for a moment in my bed, still shocked from the jolting awakening, I realized that all this is true and I am still in a state of a struggle. A struggle for survival.
When I first started with YZ, it had been one of my happiest moments in my life. Earning a decent living doing a noble job of spreading and sharing peace and tranquility. Friends and family, especially my parents were very proud of me for making it out in another land being independent and at the same time managed to sustain my ailing parents back home. Until now…
Almost everything I’d ever believed in is being challenged to the edge of insanity. The most heartbreaking thing is that now my family has been effected in the most despairing state.. I had made this land my life, my home, my comfort and the best thing was I had made some really fabulous and kind-hearted friends, whom some had been true angels.
After reading all the comments, I sensed an incredible amount of violence, vulgarity and unmanageable anger that had really disappointed me..
I am simply lost for words for such disorders. Have all the teachers including myself failed to indoctrinate any form of Yogic principles and reasonings? After hundreds of comments, it has yet to bring anything to just. So here I am humbly urging everyone to practice letting go.. for now. Let the people who are fighting this battle for us do the justice. As for the rest of us, lets move on and be pro-active. We’ve only got ONE life to live and its very short.. We have little time for love, so why spend what we have for hate?

I wish all the YZ’s teacher, staff can get back what they should! So pity for those oversea instructor which kick out from their ‘home’. I wish YZ continue operating next Monday, as a practitioner, we just wish can continue practising …as teacher, I think beside of payroll issue, they still wish can continue conducting classes… Let us transit positive chi…

omg, i have just signed the course with my sis a few weeks ago in July. i have never attend any class, can i get the refund back? i felt like been cheated!!

各位，不好意思！小弟是某著名报社的小小记者，今日受邀前往直击采访YOGA ZONE的蕉赖分行，那里还真的是群情汹涌，众人们的言论不禁让小弟捏一把冷汗。。。。。。其实，小弟是从几位人士口中得知此网站，也受托于众人希望把一些言论与意见刊登于本报刊，但基于大部分得人士都不肯透露姓名，也考虑到他们情绪激动的因素，所以他们所提供的资料只可供作参考与聆听，在此先向各位说声抱歉，帮不上忙。

关于这里的言论，小弟也大约浏览过了, 发觉其中的言论绝大部分都与我所收集回来的资料不谋而合，整颗心不禁不寒而栗。但同一时间也对仍在职的职员肃然起敬，惊讶大家竟能在如此严苛(没薪水，没福利，没管理层。。。。。。) 的工作环境下继续上班，是什么原因呢？也因此我跑了数间，与几位职员攀谈了一会儿，得知当中一些不为人知的秘密，却爱莫能助，只能祝福他们能度过此关了。

不得不说的是，日前遭人泼红漆的某间分行，我与几位同事这几天曾试过在不同时段，乔装不同身份前往向那里的职员查探消息，但都无功而返。比较苦恼的是，无论我们装得与他有如何熟络或严肃，都套不到半句话来。更妙的是，他不但能巧妙的回答我们的问题，也让我们没机会再发问之余的时候，准备台阶让我们下,之后还礼貌的送我们出去。在谈话当中，其实我察觉到另一位职员似乎想对我欲言又止，可惜的是，都一一被他挡了下来了。。。。。。当时我心想：如此专业的职员要到哪去找呢？公司已走到如此地步，他也遭到如此的对待，但为何还能撑得住呢？那动力在哪？还是他有苦衷？抑或只是单纯他个人的道德与专业精神？不过，无可否认的，我很欣赏他！(老兄，你会看这部落格吗？哈。。。。。。)

好咯！先在此止笔，明天中午再与大家与蕉赖那儿见吧！衷心的祝福各位明天会更好，晚安！

It’s the journey that counts, finally, we are at China Press headlines with great photos of Cheras outlet, I regretted borrow out the place for MP to hold the meeting, as this is the private place, but he promise the reporters will stay neutral, reading the news today seems different, 结业=cease operations; do we cease operation? 谢谢中国报的记者和摄影，您们的一支笔和一张照片，毁了瑜伽乐园，the notice did mention very clearly, operations team is still at respective outlets to attend to members, why do we need to be so unfair to those who are still working there? 大门深锁=the main door is closed? is that true? Is that fair to club manager Lilian and the team? 据实报道，实事求是是记者的精神；惟恐天下不乱，现在的局面是您的报导所要看到的吗？ The sanctuary for yoga for more than 280 employees, more than 18000 members, what am I doing everyday for the past few months, to ensure the best benefits of both. ex-staff, finally, we ruin YZ down, you should be happier now. TJ has nothing to lose cause he has nothing now, are you happier?
I always thought to have a report card of everyone in my heart, when someone done wrong, think of his/her good side, however, it doesn’t make any difference anymore.
Alan and WenYi from Malacca, is what you told the truth? Ask yourself one more last time, did you still owe 50k for the licansing fees? Was all the money， included cash all hold by YZ? Don’t you know it was the license program?　Malacca closure was the first impact to YZ, wrapped up with this morning press conference, politician gains the awareness, rumours published as news; members, employees, ex-employees, TJ, parents, my two dogs ( Scooby and Doo Doo ), all lose.
Uglykid win, Fairlady lose.
Yogaman win, TJ lose.
After all, when you have nothing to lose, you feel much lightened.
ＳＴＥＰＨ，你在哪里？你这样做对得起我吗？你认为我是利用着你吗？那天在你车里跟你讲的你还记得吗？由我教你补习开始到现在，人生的起起落落，我们一起经过，我从来没有要求什么，就是你的不ＨＡＮＤＯＶＥＲ，现在终于逼我走到了终点，我没有怪你，只是怪自己而已。
Uglykid, I am not purposely challenging you but just feel that you are cute to tease, now things become headlines in a misleading way, whatever you said in the morning comes true, you are really good in predicting.
6 years… 1 second…
Just want you all to know, I will fight for this battle till my last breathe, for the members and employees.

“释怀＂
一路走来，用心开怀；
满心期待，将会花开；
信心满怀，庭院花开，
有时不懂，怎么走来；
朋友不在，感情不再；
瑜伽精神，不敢担待；
情况再坏，只要有爱；
一切所有，还是必须释怀。

why everybody so quite cos it already come out in thd headline?

I couldn’t this is actually happening, I found out the problem about 1 month ago. All Yogazone Kepong’s teachers were left. They hired new teachers who don’t seem to know how to teach. All teachers have different way of teaching which is not consistent at all. For the half year i have join, my back bone is hurting now. But Kepong branch doesn’t allow me to ask withdraw or ask for refund. The worker scolded me and said “it’s non-of my business if u don come to class, the money will still continue to deduct, unless u cancel ur credit card, the she hung up my call.” Can you believe this? they have no customer service, and now! it is declaring about ending the business. I would like to take back my money, Fomca said we could do that. I have paid for 1 year, left about 4 months, i hope they can pay me back.

Hi Leonard,

I’m not hurt or angered in anyway. No need for apologies. We are all here to discuss and to share our worries and even ways to solve our problems at hand.
I may not agree to your views but you’re always entitled to share yours whenever you want to.
Thanks.
ryan

let’s look at the maths. the paid up capital of the company is less than RM300,000 and the amount owing to EPF and Socso exceeds RM1,000,000 and amount owing to Ah Long ??? (exceed RM1 mil??) any body’s guess. Plus other creditor (rental/electricity/etc) another few hundred thousand??
Effectively, YZ is insolvent. Do the maths, they are just buying time before he gets thrown into jail.
TJ, from your reply above, looks like your other shareholders are not going to back you up and if I am the shareholders, I will surely sure you for mis-management and take up a CBT case against the management (that is you)
Why would any ‘new management’ want to come in knowing that a possible receivership will come in and take over the company with the court order…
You also mention about all the high pay your partners/managers are getting.. how about yourself?? you fail to put that down.. my best guess would be in the region of RM50,000 a month?? plus all the expensive holidays and 5 star hotels??
By selling the GC cheap is intension to cheat your loyal customers and taking their future money to cover your current debts. knowing that you will take the $ and close the shop soon. why not sell them 4,200 and get people to part with their hard earn $ to pay for your luxurious lifestyle??? I truly understand why you would sell them at 4,200… So that more people get con. I am surprise that you did not sell them below 3,000 so that you can get another 1,000 people sign up. that will mean 3 mil. surely will cover your expensive team of managers.
Again, if u do the maths right. with a overhead of 1.2mil, you only need 12,000 members to pay RM100 each to break even… my best guess is that you have about 12,000 to 15,000 active members… where do all the money go??? to your pocket? your boyfriend’s pocket?? your girlfriend’s pocket?? only you and god knows!! and let’s face it, most of us members are paying more than RM100 per month… what happen to the extras?????!!
All fellow paying members… let face facts… there is no way anyone would buy over from TJ. even if he were to give his shares for free, any businessman would think twice or three times. your company is insolvent or we commonly call it bankrupt. Would I take out RM3mil to save your sorry ass?? is YogaZone name worth that much?? you can claim goodwill, seriously, with the current situation your goodwill is only worth RM1. nothing more… Any sensible businessman will take the RM3mil to start a new setup and get all other members to pay monthly and work out a scheme to offer your GC member whereby they enjoy a certain discount..
I guess we can kiss our fees paid good bye..

Those rumorous gave TJ a great opportunity to calm when it was came out in headline with DAP Tan Kok Wai! Dear Poor management skill TJ; this is the final and the only chance for u to make picture clear with ur action but not empty promise!Phoenix reborning with flame whether turn into new life or ashes was in ur hand now. The things comes out of the frame mb its ur weak self-awarence and ostrich mind.Come-on, be guts. I thinks most of the mbr will give u second chance!

I am deeply felt sorry to my fren that I had intro her to join the membership. Although, the fees is not as much as those GC members but I really felt BAD to her. She just joined after a week then the rumours and news all comes out in sudden and it was really a SHOCKED to all of us!~

瑜伽终于被政治化了，这样的做法，
瑜伽精神只在遥远的桃花源或乌托邦，
在政治里面，没有对错，只有输赢，
在瑜伽的世界里面，只有真理，
我接受自己错了，并不觉得可耻，我刚刚算一算由始至终，我在这个部落各总共写了５６次的ＳＯＲＲＹ／对不起，全部出自真心。
当你活在世上几十年之后突然发现真假和对错刚好相反的时候，不要惊讶。慌张或感慨，因为你会觉得自己突然富有了。这一次，我没有学会什么，只学会了两句话：＂美丽可以很丑陋；贫穷也可很富有”。
我的两个“老宝贝”－国强和亚英；　你的孩子这一次敌不过谣言，；只是因为他还有良知，　好多个月没有给家用了，可是经过这样的事情之后，我反而更看开了。

with so many members get con. and no way for TJ or his team to turn around. maybe we should form a YZ corporative that every one of the 12,000 to 15,000 member contribute a small and hire the existing team or employees and form a committee to run the yoga business. this was we can put proper business in place and no hanky-panky business so that all the members here can practice yoga.
Say, with 12,000 members paying RM100 each, we are looking at RM1.2mil a month. this is more than enough to pay teachers/front desk staff, etc
I bet a lot of members are willing to chip in.
I for one can name a few.
This way also make sure the good teachers and even foreign teachers are pay promptly and get their life going.
With the current situation, TJ is history and let’s move forward

I can’t understand why a corporate doing the restructuring exercise in such a way. I believe TJ and the Management know their financial situation ealier. why the Company not plan it earlier? I don’t think there will be a new group to take over a bad reputation company lo… my GC fees (RM3,600.00)has gone into the sea

This is in reply to comments by our teacher Azmi. The most failing part, as I noticed, since joining YZ 2 years ago, is the emphasis on the physical aspects of yoga. The members (including 4 of my colleques who joined) all discussed about asanas. Yoga is more than that. Its being mindful of the stillness in asanas. Deeper peace can only be found in meditation to transcend “the lack” in this materialistic world. The founder+top management had displayed their deluded minds since getting rich. In turn this promote anguish & fear (no money) to almost all teachers/employees/members alike. Thank you Azmi for your last paragraph of advise – wisdom. If you’re not paid for months yet can guide us to have mental inner strength and clarity. I salute you for being positive to move-on.

TJ’s photo

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/11/11/business/15988739&sec=business

Alicia,

Good suggestion, I agreed with you but than who is going to run the company ? How many outlet r u plan to open ?

Aiiiii…
YZ in newspaper today…
Aiiiii…

i really pity for those who have signed up RM9888, it worth RM 0 now, and my RM 4888 also gone…

JC,
who the “SHE” u mention?

Dear YZ members/employees/teachers,

I am a member of yogazone who has just renewed my yearly membership!

A famous monk Ajahn Brahm once said “If only we could keep in mind how uncertain our future is, then we would never try to predict what could go wrong, fear ends right there”.

Agreed with Teacher Azmi, lets free ourselves from hate. Live the spirit of yoga…..be mindful and live on!

Take good care and perhaps, few sets of Sun Salutation at home will brighten up your day!

i totally agree with teacher Azmi and ChildPost

tats y open so many outlet n put so much budget in adv for wat????no brain to think just teaching yoga…just join other fitness centre near to ur hse… -

Azmi~ my yoga idol! Hope I’m still able to attend your class in future..

Now, restructuring management team as reason. Later, restructure GC member. We should know now, what is businese mind? What is yoga mind?

Fr Kwong Wah paper today
http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2008/07/30/167.html

Those in califo fit b4, should. They paid GC RM3K, a few months, change management, but still Califo, all the GC still hv to paid monthly, upgrade fee…… Its a strategy to earn more income.

Fr Nan Yang too..
http://www.nanyang.com/wap/article.php?id=868020&head=nationwide

i’m YC cheras lifetime member. thnks for all the support i see here. to know that i’m not alone in this is calming. & also many thnks to the people who took up the cause to fight for our consumer rights, reporters and to YB Tan Kok Wai of Cheras.

pray that the negotiation will turn out good today. ohm…

Yeap, Azmi is really great teacher and so called YOGIS! As a yoga pratitioner, teacher always urge us to letting go!! so please go your anger! I missed Azmi’s class.. Azmi always urge the practitioner in the begining of class, “Please set the intention of today!” , be frank, it is very motivate for me!!! Please let me know if Azmi conduct classes in anywhere in future , if YZ really gone.

Even if the new management comes in, I have lost confidence with the quality of the teachers. Apparently most good and famous trainers have gone! Left over new and inexperienced ones… So what is the point?

Hi pumpkinhead and cheras members, do you really think that getting yb, all the news reporters meeting at cheras outlet can really make yz turn out good day?

With yesterday ntv7 news, today news in almost all Chinese papers report the yz closed up news, this only can detriment yz, even halt the restructuring process and deter new investment interest. Your action just to create doomsday for yz.

Dear all,
I’m a GC life member joined since last year.I read tru all the messages and felt all the energies and “watch” all the dramas in it.
It’s interesting and blessed as a human being where u can experience all these emotions. What people do to u is their karma but your reaction and response to them is yours.
No problem can ever be resolved by condemning it.
Think from the end,contemplate yourself are surrounded by the conditions, people, events, circumstances that you want to produce, u will get what u want to see. Quantum physics proved this.
Be an appreciator rather than depreciator.
We create our own reality, no one is a victim. Every situation is a lesson to learn from.
I can call myself a victim if i want to. But i know WHO I AM, i’m not this body, i’m just a spiritual being experiencing in a human body. I can choose to hold onto pain, anger, hatred and suffer forever as long as u choose so, i can choose to just let go and move on. Whatever it turns out, it’s the way it meant to be. Money is just energy, this is an opportunity to raise one’s consciousness to a higher level. Move on, there is abundance in the world waiting for everyone to appreciate and see. See the +ve aspects rather than the -ve side. U will find it even in the most negative situation if u determine to find it. I jsut let go and what comes later i’ll accept and smile that i am able to be with what is. JUst Be. Enjoy your present moment. Be a real YOGI.

so much had been said, what do we want? to get the money back and let yz packed up or help yz to return to the right track so that we yoga lovers can continue with our classes…the least we can help at this critical moment is avoid making negative statement…see what happen on Monday..everything we do has an element of risk…learn to detach…rgds

agreed, drsu. the outcome of an event depends on our reaction to it.

Do you all think any new management will take over a company with such a bad image with dept collector paiting all over the places and how does the new management sustain the cost with most member already sign up life package.

drsu: u’r asking ppl to forget about their hard earned money, which they hv invested wif YZ. think about it… y do ppl choose YZ? being a large corporate entity, it probably has a very strong foothold, hence the trust of its members. and now, dat trust has been betrayed every so badly. it’s not the members fault to be angry, they hv every right to be. For they hv been cheated and ripped off in broad daylight. so, for u to request the members to “move on” after losing several thousands… is being disrespectful to those dat have poured $$$ into something which they had placed their trust upon. maybe you can afford to lose the $$$, but not everyone can afford to. perhaps they won’t be able to get their hard-earned $$ back, but at least bring justice to their loss.

i hope this saga will teach all of us a lesson in life. and i hope a solution can be found, and may the perpetrators be brought to justice. namo amitabha.

Dear oliviasy,
The choice is yours and there is free will as to how u react. I choose to let go. We do not know the outcome yet, why get angry for something that is not confirmed yet. I felt the same way as you all feel but i aware of my feeling and choose to let go as i konw if things can be changed it will be if it cannot be changed i choose to let go and move on. I don wan to get angry just for this. Om shanti.

I strongly agreed with Alicia. But is easy said then done. Is not easy to run a coperative when $$$ and people are concern,moreover, most members are beaten n hv no confidence in any health club anymore. Mr.TJ is a smart man,fr what he has written, looks like he remembers every details he said to his shareholders,friends,teachers,staffs and their salaries etc. He shd hv predicted the consequences what if sales of cerain mth drops,just like any companies, certain amount of monies shd hv put aside as contigency fund just incase. Any Financial institution will not lend money to service business like YZ as there isn’t any collateral. Where r the monies collected fr membership fees? Mismanaged? Abuse? If the managemt team of YZ was good and sincere under the leadership of Mr.TJ, i m sure YZ will not b like today. So,dont dream,Mr.TJ,admit the mistakes and wake up.

Well said, drsu. U inspires me. i just copied ur msg to my reminder, make sure i read it again one month later.

I think most yogi here aware that we are spiritual being.
unfortunately we tempt to be delude by all the external bad influences. Human is forgetful, we got to practice spiritual minds often.

I have a habit to read the site http://www.dailyom.com/ DailyOM everyday b4 i practise yoga or meditation. Maybe you guy can try to read it, it’s inspiring.

I normally make a copy of DailyOm articles which inspired me a lot, and make sure i read it again after some time.

I like to share with you today DailyOm:

It is not necessarily a pleasant experience, but there will be times in our lives when we come across people who do not like us. As we know, like attracts like, so usually when they don’t like us it is because they are not like us. Rather than taking it personally, we can let them be who they are, accepting that each of us is allowed to have different perspectives and opinions. When we give others that freedom, we claim it for ourselves as well, releasing ourselves from the need for their approval so we can devote our energy toward more rewarding pursuits….

I enjoy speeding my car after ofce hr rushing during the traffic jam to T.desa jst b’cos t’day there is Serena class I miss while sending my children for tuition I have 1 hr yoga at Cheras /shower and pick them up 2hrs later, n on sat after my marketing , I hv Azmi class at Weld ….n on Sunday , i can go hand in hand with my hubby to comfort zone for massage follow by dinner with my children…. all this is within my budget…n soon i ‘wll miss it

I promise , i will not spend my shopping at Isetan this Sat ,to keep my membship renewal Tj, if u still have the heart in running the business,it is always a turning end, dif angle dif direction, you may find a way to continue journey ..provd if u still have yr heart in running the bz…

还有3天
请大家多忍耐3天
给Yoga Zone一个生存的机会
没有根据的猜测只会令大家更不安
情况会变得更糟
请大家不要在这个时候落井下石
对任何一方都没有好处
我们还是静观其变吧～

Any good new from the meeting between GC representatives with TJ today. Pl let us know. TQ.

lates news from d meeting pls.isit any good news? new management?we strongly wan to continue our yoga class.

hope for the best, expect the least.

It is not easy to sit and wait for things to turn better or hoping that it would. Make use of this week. Practise at your respective outlet. Reminisce the good ol’ days. Calm your mind with your practise. At least one will feel better even if the feeling is tender….

The meeting was postponed to 3pm instead of 1:30pm. As such, is still in the progress and no news yet.

But heard that he brought along with some bodyguards and “ah long” also waiting for him there. Tan Kok Wai (DAP) quite upset with TJ as he was not being informed that the meeting was postponed.

Doubt why TJ can afford to employ so many bodyguards and can’t partly pay to the teachers and staffs first…??

Appreciate anyone attended the meeting to update us the outcome whether YZ can be re-opened on coming Mon…

Dear All,

Hari Om,

I totally agree with Azmi, (my favourite teacher) – LEARN TO LET GO. He speaks like yogi too.

Just wait patiently for another 3 days, then we should be able have the solutions.

PATIENCE IS ALL THE STRENGTH THE MAN NEEDS

hi fei, i just went into the dailyom website and i think this is very appropriate. “Pain comes and it goes. It is just one component to the grand cycle of life. And when experienced as such, pain can serve as an important teacher. It is when we get stuck in our pain that it becomes detrimental to our well-being and development”

good idea Alicia… you know, many members don’t care about their paid fees, what we hope is that classes continue.

‘members chip in to save a business/club’ this will get us into world headline also. ;p

good day.

hi any good news frm yz

The meeting was a greasy horror show. Anyone have any de-greaser spray I can use?

Hi fellow yoga lovers,

I am a GC member, just heard from my marketing consultant that there will be classes on Monday( maybe less classes though). I am from Cheras outlet so I don’t know about the other outlets.

Like a lot of GC members I hope there is place where we can learn & practise yoga rather than getting any refund. From this blog site( which I discovered accidentally)there seem to be more positive energy from the members than the teachers( or at least those who claim they are).I am fortunate all the teachers I have encountered so far exudes a lot of positive energy even when the things have gone awry with all kinds of rumours going on. I think these teachers have truly mastered yoga not just the asanas.I have learnt alot from the Indian teachers in this aspect & also through reading up on yoga.Of course I have a long way to go in cultivating it so I truly hope that I ‘ll be able to go on my yoga journey for a long time to come.Namaste

Dear Teacher
Wat happend actually? Pls let us know.

http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2008-08-01&sec=malaysia&art=0801mb70.txt
著名瑜伽中心暫停營業
會員代表和議員律師被“請出來”
對話會拒外人參與
（吉隆坡31日訊）著名瑜伽中心Yoga Zone會員今午按照昨日商定時間，到蕉賴分行欲與管理層對話，惟老闆陳志剛聲稱今日是召開員工大會，拒絕外人參與。
會員3名代表、蕉賴區國會議員陳國偉法律顧問黃啟斌與助理羅志興曾一度隨大隊進入會議室，惟不到5分鐘，被“請出來”，不得門而入。

另外，陳國偉今午1時30分率領會員到達現場，準備與該中心老闆陳志剛對話，然而職員卻轉告說，會議已延遲至3時。

陳國偉對此大感不滿，並指責陳志剛擅自更改時間卻沒有通知他，較后，陳國偉因有要事提前離開。

直到3時，陳志剛及Yoga Zone巫裔新老闆億萬（Iwan）一起現身，並向在場會員解釋該中心目前情況和對話會延遲至3時的原因，現場一度混亂。

隨后媒體建議下，陳志剛答應先對話，再開記者會交代，惟他只允許3名會員代表、羅志興及黃啟斌出席。

然而不到5分鐘，黃啟斌與羅志興雙雙步出會議室，並指陳志剛宣稱只開員工會議，他人不准參與。

他說，陳志剛表示，該中心一切沒有問題，下週可恢復正常操作。

辦股權轉移手續
陳志剛否認結業
Yoga Zone創辦人陳志剛說，Yoga Zone並沒有結業，只是暫時休業一周，以進行股權轉移手續。

他針對報章昨日報導Yoga Zone結業的新聞發表談話時說，Yoga Zone並沒有所謂大門深鎖情形。

他說，Yoga Zone是私人地方，媒體不應拍下其照片刊登。

他指出，瑜伽是運動，不應該將其政治化。

他今日到Yoga Zone蕉賴分行召開記者會時，如是指出。

陳志剛也在記者會上澄清，他並沒有出售蕉賴分行，惟此話一出，引起一名男子質疑，后者更突然向陳志剛出示一份文件。

惟陳志剛一見該文件即一手將文件搶過來，並遠距離向媒體展示文件，及以質疑口吻指出，為何這名男子會有其護照影印本，並且能在沒有抵押、借據下，指責他欠下30萬令吉。

后來，該男子向陳志剛索回文件，惟陳志剛不願交出，還把文件交給身邊助手，並吩咐其收起來，陳志剛此舉引起圍觀會員不滿，並起鬨要陳志剛交還文件。

最終陳志剛屈服于群眾壓力，將文件交還有關男子。

what is the come out after the meeting?

Yogazone主要負責人陳志剛承認，該瑜珈中心背負超過300萬令吉的債務，因此他只好賣掉自己的股份給從事生物科技的依萬莫哈末尤索夫，以解決瑜珈中心的龐大債務。

不過，陳志剛卻否認自己曾向合法借貸公司商借30萬令吉的指控，並懷疑是自己的前私人助理偷取個人證件，並利用他及瑜珈中心的名譽，向借貸公司借錢。

does the new partner Iwan really have 1 billion it was translated as 億萬 means billion dollars thanks god YZ is safe

陳志剛說，該中心已經擬定3項議決，讓會員決定是否繼續保留會員籍。以下是3大議決案的詳情：

1.從下周一（4日）開始，各分行的瑜珈班重新開課，這已獲得導師的同意，但為了確保各分行都有瑜珈課，每間分行的課程可能減少。

2.從未出席任何瑜珈課的新會員，可從下周一（4日）開始，到各分行處理退費手續。該中心將使用7個工作天處理退費事宜，新會員可以獲得全額退費，但該中心是以固本方式退費，不會退還現金。

3.至於以信用卡付會費及其它舊會員，若有意退會也可以從下周一（4日）辦理手續，該中心將以固本方式退還剩餘的會費，不會退還現金。會員可以將固本轉賣給其它新人，唯不能向該中心申請現金退費。

dear piggy,
i really dun understand wat u’r writing here, but anyway i just ignore it. if u really have good idea, just proposed it…dont simply say go to ur nearest fitness center. not all does ok!!

piggy on 31 July, 2008 at 11:22 am #
tats y open so many outlet n put so much budget in adv for wat????no brain to think just teaching yoga…just join other fitness centre near to ur hse… -

Some teacher boycotting him and going out of the meeting room infront of him and Iwan.Becos he still cound’t give the answer and the invester not yet agree to take over yz.

YF affected or not?

Hi jc,

i think 億萬 is the translation of the “new” owner’s name, Iwan. Not that he has a billion $$.

can someone pls translate the article into english? what is the situation now?? can yogazone still continue? thanks.

http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2008/07/30/167.html

[此外，记者也走访位于旧巴生路蒂沙花园的办事处，其一名柜台服务员向记者表示，至今未接获任何学员的相关投报。

他说，有关公司最近因人事上的更动，因此从本月28日至8月3日暂时停课一个星期，因而不排除引起学员的误会。]

哈哈。。。老兄，你也令光华注意到了！真有你的！！

Some teachers are so called real yogi – Azmi, Nancy, only 2, yoga mind yoga body, bla bla bla.. shhhh… shhh…. ohmmmmmmmmm…

***JJ on 31 July, 2008 at 8:26 pm #
Some teacher boycotting him and going out of the meeting room infront of him and Iwan.Becos he still cound’t give the answer and the invester not yet agree to take over yz.***

Why Mr. TJ did not say YC melaka will resume class on monday? why only all outlet in Kuala Lumpur? he forgot YC Melaka?

what is meaning of just pay back the fees by using voucher? what vouchers?the yogazone one?its really unfair leh!!who still want to buy the voucher for a bad reputation YZ?

小小记者， 请帮我们问一问马六甲分行是不是下新期一照常开课练习？？

hey ariel.. can u pls stop talkin negatively bout yz??? YZ is goin to rebuild, teachers is going to teach, classes goin to resume, staffs goin to get back to their workin position, staffs in yz gonna get back their pay to survive.. positive thinking is essential now.. pls do not take away the last breath that yz is having now.. thank you everyone..

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Vanessa,

How do you expect YZ to survive after today’s “meeting?”

Foriegn staff (not just teachers) have not been paid for two or three months. Their rent has not been paid for three months. Some have been evicted already and are depending on the kindness of the community to house them.

Today they were not asked, but told, they had to work for yet another month with no pay in order to get paid for one of the back months of pay! Add to this not having a place to live and do you really think that these people will stay with YZ?

No, that would be foolish on their part.

Also, the Mafioso feel of the “meeting” doesn’t show much favor for the future of YZ. Muscle thugs in dark sunglasses are far from a positive image of future prosperity.

It is sad to say but it looks to be that YZ will not survive. Bound to go the way of the dinosaur. It grew too big too fast.

But the positive note is that there will be great things that come out of this. Keep your eyes and ears open becuase your favorite teacher will reemerge at other venues. Most likely with better, more yogic business models.

Stay tuned

YZ = small head wear big hat

I think TJ is going to mad soon…

yes, because the figure in his bank already increased few million.

Can anyone tell me if Y-fitness is affected too?

Whatever said by alicia on 31 July, 2008 at 8:46 am # are true facts, his monthly personal expenses, claim easily 30k per month. Sometime back, he has “invested” money to get the normination of a few SPA awards,there were 3 tables of staff attended the event at PICC (putrayaya), the end result was, of course he won a few prizes happily, most of 3 table of staff celebrated with him at Putrajaya Shangrila hotel, of course it was happy and extreme joyful drinking session,many cans of beers consumed, most of the staff got a twin sharing room to stay at Shang hotel, do you want to make a wild guess how much he has spent on it, he is always want the “FACE” but the operation is a shit

Whether it is 陳志剛說 or Tj said, his words are truely worthless, he has promised to pay teacher, staff, supplier on time with post date cheques, ended up, many cheques bounced, of course he knew no money is in the bank, he was just buying time to calm down people, it is also meant people hard earned money gone with the wind, even with so called new management comes in, there will be a lot a lot a lot issues for those ex staff and supplier to claim back the money, however, the most sympathy was Melaka club’s person in charge, he has invested 300k – 400k since November 2007, in return he gets nothing

so who is 陳志剛, he is nothing, he is worst than a shit, simply super conman

I’m totally agree with Mr. Azmi, even though I never attended his class and never seen him before.

The core principle of yoga is to “let go”… or else you be the one who suffer most… as a member, we just lost $ and the good place to learn yoga… but for those yoga teachers… they lost their career where they have try their best to build it so hard… lost direction for their future…

I sincerely hope that all the yoga teachers will get back what you should entitle to… I’m sure there is bright future waiting for you… do not forget to let us know where will you guys continue your teaching life as we sure will support you guys!!!!

Namaste!

Let’s everyone welcome the class on Monday and ALL our favourite teachers will stay with YZ and us. We pray for the best to happen. Now everyone should practice the discipline of yoga —peace of mind….Be patient and just wait.

Everyone can say everything and anything about me, everything can hate everything and anything about me, everyone can misundestand everything and anything about me. One rule, don’t touch my parents, I will not let go. Dear member No. 1, yes, you are right, I’ll get mad, if my parents are bullied by others.
My parents have been asking me to just put a full stop to everything and turn over a new leaf, but I argued with them so many times cause I know that I still have mission imcomplete, the salary of the employees as I promised. I’ll go, and definitely go, after settling you all the salary.
If you ask me now, YZ or parents, undobtedly, my loveliest, dearest, super cool parents, they faced the Conman Ah Long, they help to wash off the red paint of Taman Desa in 18 hours, they didn’t get any allowance from me for months, they forge out their own savings to help to pay the salary of the employees, simply they believe in me. I regret, regret making them believe in this, as I truly doubt about it now.
Employees meeting? ha ha! No definite answer, no class tomorrow; indefinite answer, no class tomorrow also. What a joke? dear givebackmymoney, a few million in my bank? Will I be here to be scolded by you all? Will i not paying the salary/ rental so you all can generate more revenue? Any smart businessman will surely do so, I simply don’t have. Can’t you accept it? Why not you build another yoga centre and try it out?
I have to face Lay Gaik with his Mr.”you will know who I’m when you come to the board”, questions like “did you offer your share to the existing shareholders?” & “did you carry out the board meeting to approve this?”, as a 10% shareholder, you can do anything and everything as you want, but don’t spoil the only chance to revive YZ, a call for board meeting takes 7 days, will you attend the meeting? can employees wait for 7 days? Did I cheat you on the share sale? Is the 10% share certificate with you?
when representative from new management is here, being said as puppet; when not here, saying is not true. Making me mad is not that difficult, just another press on the button away.
Thanks Rose, the representative of the members, you are neutral enough to evaluate the situation.
Thanks Lilian and the team, the meeting was well controlled because of you all.
Thanks Zen, Dawid, Pari, Deepak and Ah Xiang, your support is in my heart.
Thanks LyDm, despite being attacked by the propaganda, you still support YZ. ( sometimes I wonder as a malacca member and you never know YZ/TJ well )
Dear “business analyst” in the blog, you all are really professional, ideas are brilliant, why not try to set up the similiar establishment?
Dear Alicia, what a coincidence, just discussed with Zen and Dawid after the meeting to have some simple package to revive YZ, the idea is similiar, and your wish will be fuilfilled, TJ will go/die far far away, YZ will remain forever. However, your think twice, no one will buy YZ share as it’s a the lowest point? To real businessman with business sense, that’s the time to enterthe market, aren’t that the formula?
YZ was planned to build as a community for yoga lovers, now involved politicians, medias, rumours, conspiracy etc. I’m sorry, if given a choice, I will rather never build this establishment.
It seems to be simply “all my fault”, however, as long as there’s still a person believe in me, your words can never change my thinking, for Cik Bunisah, our day one therapist for comfort zone, terima kasih banyak banyak.
Thanks Ninie, and I’m sorry, I felt so pain when you spoke it out, that’s simply the reason I want to make it better for you all.
Do you all want YZ to end? Or just TJ to end in YZ? If you choose the former, just be patient; if later, I will be wanting to out of the malaysia yoga scene as soon as possible as long as my commitment to members and employees achieved.
There’s a “thought-to-be-true” friend/ employee in the meeting that asked me to pay “cash” to all the employees instead of bank in, you made me understand that I’m such a fool for many years. I had been trusting you for too long and told you every single little secret all these while, you made me don’t believe in friendshp now, trust? yes, it’s meant to be gained, it doesn’t come in the package.
FYI, we actually can release more cash flow to ease the current situation, but for what the press reported, Hong Leong, Citibank, HSBC all hold the payment, pushing this to the end is your mission?
Again, 6 years… 1 politician…all medias… all ruined.
From now on, I will not write/read or in anyway to be in this blog. Let’s live a new live.
Green Yoga? Did you all see the effort that eveyone had put in? Supposed to be the most beautiful and interesting campaign ever in YZ, but now, let’s bury all this.
I’m tired, truly tired.

Dear Jediknights,
If my claim is 30k one month easily, I die; if not, you pay the staff salary? Game? God is up there, auditor is down here, let’s come out at this stage, wrtie your real name, dare to face the public? propaganda? At this stage, it doesn’t work anymore, reveal your very goodself.
As an ex-staff, practice ethic, ruining me is ok, but not yz. I’ll go all out to trace you down, this is not star wars, back to your own world.
Reading something wrote by “nothing” and “shit” and commented, so, you’re….???

By the way, Jediknights, I’ll inform Mr.William, the chairman of the award, about you hinting that the Spa and Wellness Award is by “investment”, I believe you know him better than me.
People buy time to escape, not to stay here to be scolded by you. So, you are…??

sorry i am a banana. can’t understand chinese. can somebody please translate some bits of the articles from the chinese newspapers? is the new investor still have not taken over YZ?? what was meeting abt?

Basically the meeting was about thugs and loansharks trying to pressure the staff to continue work, so they can get some of the money that TJ borrowed back.

vanessa, if u were me, just signed up at 17/7/08,then suddenly heard this type of news, how would u feel? this is not negative things, these are my feeling now. would u dare to buy share if u know it’s high risk that its going to drop a lot?

What a BIG JOKE by a an good actor! He is waiting to be sued n go to jail. He abused the members money, n no shame to it….

YogaZone used to be a very good company. Given such circumstances, a SANE human being would not go on war with the company, though some might be. I sympathesize with the way it is now. To all current employees who’s still with them, you have my blessings and support. Its all up to u to decide on what to do next. Cheers

Dear…
azmi,nanci,dr ameen,mathew,ninie,lila,gary,serena,jessie,gilbert,nico,au yong,jacq,grady,kit,chaniel and all the teachers….sooo so many of you.thank you very much for your spreading the love and knowledge around…
it’s very much appreciated …truly.it’ll be my pleasure to become your(all) student again ….by any chance..
you brought light into my life!!!!

dear all teachers,
felt sorry for watever that you all are going through rite now,can only hope for the best for all of you.pls take good care.(u_u)

Tj really going to mad soon ….YZ 的创办人成为将近崩溃的傀儡..一失足成千古恨啊。。

What yoga spirit r we talking about? We are talking about law and justice! We MUST NOT let anyone who break the law to escape….wake up yogis!!!! You need to eat and live, u need to survive n some have family to support; you are here to enjoy the beautiful life!!! Can anyone pay yr bills for you if you just let go, no money to survive ??? I really pity the staffs for the fighting spirits…wake up….BTW, real buyer of YZ will not step into the mtg in that kind of situation…if i m the potential buyer, i will not expose myself also….think abt it….

I was TJ’s student many years ago but already stopped practising yoga for a long while. I am really shocked to learn that YZ ended up in such situation.

Since I am in corporate advisory line, perhaps I can give some comfort to the members & staffs on the process of changing hand from TJ to new investors. Firstly, one must understand that YZ will not disappeared and all the loans will not be repaid UNLESS TJ apply to Court to liquidate YZ. Liquidator will then step in to sell watever he can to pay 1stly the secured creditors (i.e. banks) then followed by the unsecured one i.e. suppliers and staffs.

Since TJ mentioned that there will be a new guy buying over his shares in YZ, then it’s depends on the negotiation whether TJ must pack & take all the old debts together with him (novate the debts to TJ personal a/c) OR he is ok with all the old debts remain in the company where he will needs to deal with it. The new guy or TJ can apply seek protection under sec176 of the Companies Act (in order to restructure the debts w/o having to sued by any creditors. The new guy will definitely asking for a haircut on the outstanding debts from the creditors and usually the unsecured creditors will kena the biggest haircut. To the suppliers and staff, wish you luck in the negotiation with the new guy.

As for the members, the company (irrespective who is the shareholders and if there is any change of shareholders) MUST honour the agreement/contract signed between YZ and its counterpart so long the agreement has not lapsed. In another word, as long as TJ does not liquidate YZ, your membership will still be valid even after the new guy take over YZ.

Hope the above information will ease some of your doubts. I feel very sorry for the downfall of YZ and I hope there will be an amicable solution for all victims of YZ.

I feel like crying now.. such a good wellness center why having problem? I’m regular practitioner in YZ, it is like part of my life to practise yoga there! It have good, passion and professional teacher, it have good enviroment for pratitioner, I really doesn’t want to see YZ is over!

If the new management is take over, I wish they are some one who know yoga.. I saw the new man- Iwan, be frank, I loss confident…

Hope fully that the exchange of management is real. So that we can get back our salary. We do really suffer for a few months. Few months of worrying, luckily it gave me the oppertunity to face the fact. Now I read the comments to update the salary paying status. (Have been in slavery for few months.)
Although his is the TOPIC of the month, but his acting skill can really compare to an oscar’s winner.
As now as what i read the whole thing, his speak only “yoga this, yoga that”. His the man that really shows he loves YOGA very much WHEN the time everything is pointing to him. Tj’s previously said that be nice to anything, but now his the one that is hurting his family DEM hard. Pity~~~~
As for the money, others personal had gone disappearing, maybe the money had order by TJ taken away all. How we know ??? Can we guess ???
Not to offence others, his attitude for winning is deniable, but he really doesnt think of the things that will happen. That’s why you can see why YZ come to this situation.

To SOMEONE ELSE, for the danny part, he is really a crap person. He say the samething before when i signup. but I dont buy his crap. Joined the company and get free yoga.

For the new management, they will need to settle all the debt. Dunno how can TJ persude them to takeover. Maybe of his alcoholic attitude?

Even “Chui Ling”’s comment are so offensive to YZ as she is the previous spokeperson for YZ.

For now and then, YZ had become so famous in SEA but still the scars that had hurt many of us deeply will no go easily. The new management hopefully can remain the structure of the current yoga package for lifetime coz its very cheap consider its lifetime membership.

Anyway, story come to an end. He made himself famous in the YOGA world good and bad. Hopefully YZ will be back in one piece as the YZ that we know.

A YZ GC member here.
Been following this blog quite some time.
well, could see some were too “aggresive” to give negative comments.
Too aggresive that i was curious on their motives on doing so.
Does that help? by doing so, teachers will get their pay, epf etc,
members can get their money back? What can we get from those
negative comments? I can only see side effects. It can only make things worse.
And anything wrong with those who are holding positive attitudes towards this issue?
“THEY” are not only giving negative comments, but were trying very hard in
changing those with positive thinking.
Sometimes i wonder are “THEY” YZ competitors? lol.
Pardon me for my imagination.

Pity so many can’t read Chinese…..Below is the translation..fr the Chinese version by catepiler
著名瑜伽中心暫停營業
會員代表和議員律師被“請出來”
對話會拒外人參與
（吉隆坡31日訊）著名瑜伽中心Yoga Zone會員今午按照昨日商定時間，到蕉賴分行欲與管理層對話，惟老闆陳志剛聲稱今日是召開員工大會，拒絕外人參與。
會員3名代表、蕉賴區國會議員陳國偉法律顧問黃啟斌與助理羅志興曾一度隨大隊進入會議室，惟不到5分鐘，被“請出來”，不得門而入。

另外，陳國偉今午1時30分率領會員到達現場，準備與該中心老闆陳志剛對話，然而職員卻轉告說，會議已延遲至3時。

陳國偉對此大感不滿，並指責陳志剛擅自更改時間卻沒有通知他，較后，陳國偉因有要事提前離開。

直到3時，陳志剛及Yoga Zone巫裔新老闆億萬（Iwan）一起現身，並向在場會員解釋該中心目前情況和對話會延遲至3時的原因，現場一度混亂。

隨后媒體建議下，陳志剛答應先對話，再開記者會交代，惟他只允許3名會員代表、羅志興及黃啟斌出席。

然而不到5分鐘，黃啟斌與羅志興雙雙步出會議室，並指陳志剛宣稱只開員工會議，他人不准參與。

他說，陳志剛表示，該中心一切沒有問題，下週可恢復正常操作。

辦股權轉移手續
陳志剛否認結業
Yoga Zone創辦人陳志剛說，Yoga Zone並沒有結業，只是暫時休業一周，以進行股權轉移手續。

他針對報章昨日報導Yoga Zone結業的新聞發表談話時說，Yoga Zone並沒有所謂大門深鎖情形。

他說，Yoga Zone是私人地方，媒體不應拍下其照片刊登。

他指出，瑜伽是運動，不應該將其政治化。

他今日到Yoga Zone蕉賴分行召開記者會時，如是指出。

陳志剛也在記者會上澄清，他並沒有出售蕉賴分行，惟此話一出，引起一名男子質疑，后者更突然向陳志剛出示一份文件。

惟陳志剛一見該文件即一手將文件搶過來，並遠距離向媒體展示文件，及以質疑口吻指出，為何這名男子會有其護照影印本，並且能在沒有抵押、借據下，指責他欠下30萬令吉。

后來，該男子向陳志剛索回文件，惟陳志剛不願交出，還把文件交給身邊助手，並吩咐其收起來，陳志剛此舉引起圍觀會員不滿，並起鬨要陳志剛交還文件。

最終陳志剛屈服于群眾壓力，將文件交還有關男子。

HERE IS THE TRANSLATION

Temporary closure of famous Yoga center
Member representatives and MP’s lawyer were called out.
Dialog session refused outsider’s participation.

(KL 31/8) Famous Yoga center Yoga Zone members met at a time decided a day before, at Cheras branch wanting to have dialog session with the management level, but boss Mr.TJ said today’s meeting is staffs meeting, refusing outsider’s participation.
Three representatives by the members, Cheras MP Mr Chan Kok Wei’s legal adviser Mr.Wong n his assistant-Mr Loh went into meeting room but both were “invited” out from the meeting room in less then 5minutes.
Earlier, Mr Chan Kok Wei arrived at 1.30pm at the scene with other YZ members preparing to have dialog with Mr.TJ but YZ staff informed him that the meeting have posponded to 3pm.
Mr.Chan Kok Wei was not happy about that and accusing Mr.TJ for not informing him. He later left early due to other work commitment.
At 3pm, Mr.TJ and the YZ new Malay boss –Iwan appeared together to explain the center’s situation n the reason why the dialog was posponded , the scene went chaotic.
Later, with the press suggestion, Mr.TJ agreed to have dialog first then follow by press conference, but he only allow 3 member representatives, Mr Loh and Mr.Wong to attend.
But in less then 5minutes, Mr.Loh & Mr.Wong were out from meeting room and said Mr.TJ said it is a staffs’ meeting, no outsiders involve.
According to Mr.Wong, Mr.TJ said YZ has no problem, next Monday will resume operations.
On Processing share transferring procedure, Mr.TJ denial closing of YZ.
Yoga Zone founder, Mr.TJ said, Yoga Zone did not cease business, only temporary closure for a week in order to process share transferring procedure.
In answering the press statement yesterday regarding YZ’s close down, he said, YZ did not lock the door. He added, YZ is a private venue, the press should not take the photos to publish. He pointed out that YOGA is an exercise, should not be politicize. He said in the press conference.

Mr.TJ also clarified in the press meeting that he did not sell the Cheras branch, as he finished saying that, a man began to felt suspicious and gave Mr.TJ a document. Mr.Tj immediately snatched the document away and showed the press from a distance and question him why he has got his photocopy passport, without collateral, receipt accusing him for owing 300k. Later, the man want his document back but Mr.TJ refuse to return but passing it to his assistant and told him to keep it. Mr.TJ’s action annoyed other members around and kick up a fuss pressuring Mr.TJ to surrender the document to the man. He later surrendered the document back to the man due to member’s pressure.

On Ming’s text translations

陳志剛說，該中心已經擬定3項議決，讓會員決定是否繼續保留會員籍。以下是3大議決案的詳情：
1.從下周一（4日）開始，各分行的瑜珈班重新開課，這已獲得導師的同意，但為了確保各分行都有瑜珈課，每間分行的課程可能減少。
2.從未出席任何瑜珈課的新會員，可從下周一（4日）開始，到各分行處理退費手續。該中心將使用7個工作天處理退費事宜，新會員可以獲得全額退費，但該中心是以固本方式退費，不會退還現金。
3.至於以信用卡付會費及其它舊會員，若有意退會也可以從下周一（4日）辦理手續，該中心將以固本方式退還剩餘的會費，不會退還現金。會員可以將固本轉賣給其它新人，唯不能向該中心申請現金退費。
Mr.TJ said the center already drafted out 3resolutions in order to let members to decide weather to continue the membership. Below are the 3 case summaries:

1. Fr next mon (4th), all branches resume yoga classes. This has been agreed by the teachers but will have less classes in order to make sure all branches will have classes.
2. New members who have never attended any classes can refund their fees fr next Mon (4th) at all branches. YZ will spend 7 working days to process refund matters. New members can get full refund but in terms of vouchers not in cash.
3. For those members paid by credit card and other old members who wants to terminate their membership can also do so fr next Mon(4th). The center will refund all remnant fees in form of vouchers, no cash refund. Members can later resale vouchers to other new members, but no application for cash refund.

i just wan y-fitness brem mall will open! but the banner take off already…

“i got vouchers for sale… anyone interested??” haha. what a joke… i guess this will come out very soon in the next 2 days… Everyone will b selling their vouchers too… who wouldn’t?!?!

If there’s any classes next Monday, I’ll continue my yoga practice. I don’t want to terminate my membership. What for? So many vouchers on sales, and it’s not gonna be easy to sell them at face values. Give discount? 50% or 75% off? Must be kidding…..might as well keep hopes at YZ.

Hi worry, u can use google translate to translate the chinese news.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinapress.com.my%2Fcontent_new.asp%3Fdt%3D2008-08-01%26sec%3Dmalaysia%26art%3D0801mb70.txt

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sinchew.com.my%2Fnode%2F76400%3Ftid%3D1

The translation is not so accurate, but u still can guess what it means..

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I just want to say to Azmi, who has been my favorite teacher since I started with YZ in 2006 – trust in the power to be that things will work out for you (and your fellow teachers) and wherever you end up teaching, I will follow!

Dear Jess,
Thank you for posting the notice on your blog.I am currently oversea and had no idea about the latest development.It is very sad to hear what YZ in going thru at this moment as I have been with them since it started.I must applaude the instructors for their dedications to yoga and the branch staffs for taking the “bullets” fired by the members.Well TJ,I sincerely hope you can rescue the centre.It will be a shame to have to close it down.

hi all… after reading this blog for some time finaly speak out….
now only HOPE is that YZ still be around as years goes by… what a nice place to be….i do not know TJ and i have no comment on him…whatever it is ..lets wait and hope for YZ to
RE-BORN….anyhow life is fragile everyone deserve a 2nd change the same goes to YZ….

For me, YZ is my home. I never think of getting refund or selling off my membership to others. I really upset with what had happened for the past few days. I hate those who create rumours and disclose YZ problems to the media/politician. YZ is a place for yoga lovers and not a battle ground, you have totally destroy YZ. Do you think YZ still can survive after all??? YZ still able to recruit new member? I think what we can do now is just pray for the miracle. I also hope that all the teachers/staff will get back what they deserved!

hi all teachers of yogazone. we miss you all so much, we also know everyone need $$ to survive but at least give YZ family another chance to climbup again with everybody supports. Work for at least part time to support this family

i have check the timetable cheras branch only have 2 classes confirm on thursday 9am and 10 30 am Tj u promise classes will resume from monday onwards if no teachers u should come to teach especially in the morning there will be at least 60 students every 7am and 8 30am classes pls otherwise all the mummies dont where to go after sending their kids to school

oh.. my god ..recently most of the fitness centre are absorbing yz member .. very attrative package for YZ member to swicth to them.TJ , the new management must have proper planning and new concept to attrack the new members.Business World Business Mind !!!

STOP CHEATING US ANYMORE, WE WANT TO GET BACK OUR MONEY IMMEDIATELY!

IF YOUR COMPANY IS NO PROBLEM, JUST REFUND OUR MEMBERSHIP FEES. UNLESS YOU’RE TRYING TO WASTE OUR TIME OR MAYBE YOU’RE CURRENTLY TRANSFERRING ALL YOUR MONEY TO FOREIGN BANK AND JUST RUN AWAY (TAKE BOARD RUN ROAD TO THAILAND) AFTER EVERYTHING IS DONE!

LAST WORD, IF YOU’RE SO CONFIDENT YZ WILL REOPEN, JUST RETURN OUR MONEY, NO NEED TO TALK SO MUCH RUBBISH, SHOW US YOUR ACTION. YOUR REPUTATION IS -100% ALREADY, TOTALLY NOT CONFIDENT ON YZ ANYMORE.

So anyone knows where the good teachers went to so members can follow?

Any other member groups going to look for ways to get cash refunds? (except ryan’s)

TJ is a con man. I know TJ very well. He wanted to sell YZ since set up at Plaza Damas to a company called Dermalogica for RM4.5 million. His idea was to set up a few more centres and lower the price to get many many members before selling. He drinks alochol and behaves like a mad man.

His staff and yoga teachers most of them smoke and drink alcohol. Once, there was a yoga teacher who drowned in a swimming pool after drinking alcohol when TJ and his teachers were at a retreat.

He has cheated and misled all of you in the name of YOGA. God cannot be cheated. It will come back and haunt you. For those who lost your money, good luck.

For Lay Gaik, good luck too. You must have many sleepless nights.

For the YZ teachers, you have been lead by a blind man with empty promises and away from all the Yama and Niyama.

You have all been cheated by the big splashy advertisements in the papers.

All, please do your homework. TJ can and will never be truthful to anyone in his life because he has not learnt his lesson. His time is up. We all have predicted that YZ will close before Sep 2008. The prediction was made in 2006.

A leader of a Yoga centre cannot drink alcohol and spoke cigarettes. Yoga teachers have to behave like yoga teachers.

Please do not misuse the name Yoga. It will hit you very hard in future.

i went to Yoga CLub, Cheras today. Acutally wanted to ask them about what is the updating news and to check for new time table, thne the front desk told me time table not out yet, i wanted to ask more… then i suddenly found there were two man wearing in black, somemore wear sunglasses (hate ppl wear sun-glasses indoor)… then shaking leg.. the face.. looks so “gangster”… scary.. then my friend and i quckily… pretend nothing to ask… and left the place.. the f/desk and consultant were talking to a gc member in very soft voice… make me so worried,cos cant hear..are these two men from “ah long”? dont tell me they are the new boss’s assistant.. i can’t believe.. cos they will chase any walk in customer away…

Don’t stop practicing just because you feel cheated by YZ or TJ.
Don’t hate yoga because of a YZ or any yoga teacher.

They might smoke, drink, do drugs, eat meat, be party animals and gay for all we care, but they are still human beings.

They see us beyond our (in)flexibility, bank accounts, cars we drive, what torn pants we wear, our unshaved legs and body odour, so why the need for us to judge them?

Breathe in what’s good for us,
exhale out what we know bad for them

hi our lovers teachers Chris, Thomas, Yoon, Dennis. We love to see all of you again in YZ if you have got your pay, pls come back to teach us. We only like to attend your classes, we still have a lots to learn from all of you.

May i know which fitness centre ??…i m intrested to know……perhaps, i will join them

yz is a good place .. make many ppl, especial female tat don exercise at all, practise yoga now.. they consider doin exercise now.. make them healthy.. i believe .. if no yz, many female still not doing any exercise at all.. they wont plan to join fitness. im one of them .. dindt do exercise at all.. but since 2007 , i joined yz, practised yoga, sweat alot, healthier.. many of my friends feel the same too.. maybe TJ has done wrong, but if without him – without yz.. anyway thanks TJ also… and thanks to all my belove teachers, gilbert, serena, yoon, dawid, penny, pari, jane……………. thanks for all teachers that are stil teaching at yz… i think most of the kind persons out there do think like me also…

hi LAY

as u said u know TJ very well, means u r his good fren, if u r his good fren then u did not give him ur good advise as u r so great, then u r not good also, u just keep quiet and now u only talk nonsense when ppl has done wrong.. such a not good person u r.. if u r not his good fren, u know so much of him, he must be treating u good, but u never treat him good.. not good also.. either way.. u r not a good person at all.. so no point listening to u.. shh…
u know god so well? r u god? did god tell u tat god will come back and haunt.. who?? r u making fun of those who lost money? y u wish good luck to them? bad person u r also.. shh…
u know lay gaik also? lay gaik, u hav a bad friend beside u.. beware..
u know yama and niyama? i doubt.. i think everyone here doubt.. as no one dare to say he knows.. so.. shh….
how u know all the advertisements are fake? u published it? funny… shh….
again.. u r nothing to say nonsense.. ppl will change and has chance to be good.. even a prisoner has chance to change his life.. wat did TJ do to u? r u putting personal issues in here? why not let this TJ do something to let us practise yoga again..so i think everyone will like u to … shh…
do u know YOGA? r u a yoga teacher? name urself.. as yoga teacher is not like tis.. so.. shhh…
shhh……. i dunno yoga.. i’m still learning…

Hello genuine yoga lovers,

For those members who are interested to continue practising yoga and not just getting a refund I was told there’s a meeting today at 3pm( for members only). It’s in the Cheras outlet. There will be a discussion on possible ways of how we can achieve that. Please come if you are interested in having a place to learn & continue your practice. I don’t have any other details.

I am truly glad I had the opportunity to learn yoga from few teachers in YZ Klang. Especially Gilbert and Yoon who taught me to respect my body. Jess ( I miss your class so much) who taught me patience and Christy – you showed me my limitations and Snow – I was happiest with my abs when I could attend your class and slowed down bcos of my back problem. Oh yes, Jess – I am slowly building up strength to do your power yoga. I wish you all would come back to YZ to teach. Perhaps later when things get better. Azmiyogi-had not had the chance to attend your class but heard from fellow practitioners you are great. Don’t be disheartened bcos most people reacted ugly in situation like this. Seeds are thrown and who knows when it will grow. Namaste to all teachers.

hi yz member, can u let me know which fitness member you are referring to. I m interested to get a place to continue . No point in blaming ???. learn to let go and life must go on.

TJ, till now I still do not know what is the actual status of YZ. New management ? Selling Shares ? etc etc. Can you just let me know the actual situaton? I am not complaining nor asking for refund etc etc. Just need to know so that I can plan and move on.
Thanks

Hi ‘member’

I believe it’s for all members interested in getting a place to learn & practise yoga. Do come if you are interested. More people will be able to give more ideas since it’s a discussion.

Hi jenny y, do u think the cheras outlet is open today? i call many time to check for monday’s time table, but no one pick up the phone.

I tried Tmn Desa branch also no answers

hi member , i rec the call from the largest fitness centre(at this moment) in pj.The consultant is inviting me to go there for consulting me taking the package. i haven go there. Still waiting the good news from YZ. I wish my favourite teacher will still continue teaching..

For the benefit of all members,nor matter how, YZ needs to restructure legally. A new management MUST come in. The members deserved to know what is going on. We need transparency. Members MUST be united. Only through law we can defend the right of members. Any takers??? How much money involves?

hi members, sorry i have no time to join the meeting today but I will fully support whatever best decisions from all the team and the family. Will volunteer to help in anyway possible.

TJ,
when YZG staffs will receive their bal and july salary?!

I’m Bdr Puteri’s GC memeber. I want the weekends classess …..

Klang & Puchong branch also no one pick up the phone. Can anyone tell me the status now?

Hello SK,

The Cheras outlet is open today.Just the gist of the members’ meeting( up to the point I left meeting is still on).Since no teachers will come on Monday if there’s no salary cheques banked, members are buying RM99 vouchers valid for one month for Cheras Plaza outlet only. This is just so that we can attend classes from tomorrow until hopefully a new management takes over.This is really a short term solution for members who are really, really keen to continue practising. You have to call up the Cheras outlet for the timetable tomorrow morning( open at 7am). You can buy the vouchers at the outlet tomorrow and no booking for classes.The teachers who attended the meeting are Penny,Zen,Thomas,Ah Xiang, Cindy & 3 or 4 more whom I don’t know.
The front desk & a couple more staff are also helping out at the meeting so that’s the reason why no one is picking up the phone.

To All Concerned, I have been following this blog for a while now, but I have not commented and neither did I want to comment on it earlier. However, I noticed that some have used my name for whatever their reason may be. My sincere appeal to you is please.. do not use my name in vain. This blog is becoming a gossip blog (my apologies, Jess. No insult meant here) If you have any issues to bring up, go through the proper channels. Nothing will or can be solved here. To put matters into perpective, yes I am a 10% shareholder in YZ and I purchased the shares from TJ in Jan 2006 for RM600K and yes TJ, I have the necessary share certificates and if you genuinely wanted to contact me as you claimed, I would appreciate if you can get in touch with my solicitors, so as to avoid any misunderstanding in future. Don’t worry abt the legal fees, it’s borne by me! Nothing to hide here. I have no intention of bad-mouthing anyone eventhough some have bad-mouthed me(like what some of you have been doing, well, you know who you are).

erm jenny y,i wish to clarify something with you. DO you mean that even though our membership are not expired yet. but we still nd to purchase the voucher. but the RM 99 is paying to the few yoga teacher who are still willingly teach us yoga in this hard time and some staff? if so, i wish to join but then, im still paying the installment, heavy burden. Btw, no news abt the other yoga zone/club and comfort?

Dear flyingtoyoga,

Yes, you are right.

if i buy that rm99 voucher , i need to use that voucher to attend the yoga class eventhough i am gc member or i can give to the another people to practice yoga

tj, wat do u mean the class will resume from 4th aug onwards? with only 11 classes in a week in such an odd hour for tmn desa branch? must well u continue to suspend the class.How many students can squeeze into the 2hours evening class on wednesday? This so -called timetable is just to buy time. We are still paying the monthly instlallments. Your arrangement is not sincere! The reputaion for YZ had gone forever!!Shame on you..

Just want to thank taman desa’s staff for their warm and friendly greetings despite what they have been going through for the past few months. To my fav teachers : ken, nico and serena,thank you so much for being great teachers, I do hope i get to
attend your classes again in yogazone.If not,do let us know where you will be going coz im sure many of ur students will happily follow u wherever u go : )

Hi jenny y,

In doubt of the following and hope you could enlighten and advice:

1. Do you mean that ONLY those puchase the RM99 voucher can attend the classes at Cheras Plaza for the month of Aug? Recognised by this new issued RM99 voucher?

2. It sounds like this RM99 collection is irrelevant with TJ and YZ, then who is the one issue this voucher and receipt?

3. If you said that the money is going to pay the teachers and staffs, then will it be any issue as we are using the YZ’s outlet and utilities (electricity and water)?

4. Who is keeping the money and in charge to pay to the teachers and staffs accordingly? Will it be any issue and enough money being collected for the teachers’ fees and staffs’ pay for a month of Aug?

5. Would it safe as refer to flyingtoyoga’s comment (2 August, 2008 at 11:27 pm), it seems like the “ah long” is aiming YZ Cheras outlet. I think it could be due to this is the only place that TJ appeared in the public ever since YZ Grp crisis.

Only Cheras outlet open tmr ? Wat abt the others?

Hello catepillar,

I left after I bought my voucher so I don’t know the final outcome of the meeting. Therefore I cannot answer your question.All the members who attended the meeting are probably from Cheras only so we discuss on our outlet.Other outlets need to have their own rep I guess.

Hello Yogalover,

One of the members’ rep & one of the staff will jointly hold the cash. The teachers will be paid after every class they teach in Cheras outlet. The voucher they issue is from Yogazone.They are hoping to get enough members to buy the vouchers to pay the water & electricity bills.Landlord apparently agree to give some leeway( per one of the staff present ).It’s always the case if some members support by buying the vouchers then more members will follow suit.It’s normal for some people to take a ‘wait & see attitude’.There are quite a lot of people like me who are very keen to practise with our current teachers & just take a risk with our RM99.For your further questions please call Cheras outlet tomorrow as there are details they discuss after I have left the meeting.

TQ Jenny. I will find out fr Cheras outlet tmr.

I would like to extent my appreciation to the committee members of YC Cheras for taking an aggressive role in helping to save members and the club from dissolution. The Rm99 voucher may satisfy some of the members who are eager to resume their practice. I have one question here and I hope the committee memebers, management and others to read this could ponder upon.
It was mentioned that starting Monday (4thAug) only those who purchased the RM99 voucher could attend classes or given priority to, right? But the management cannot denied entry for members who have signed up previously.
It is wrong in terms of rules and regulation as we are still members of YZ not the new management. We still have the right to attend classes if the doors are open on Monday. Just imagine that members start complaining and reporting to the police or politician (YZ could be on the headlines of every mass media AGAIN), The situaion will become more hoax and YZ will not be revived. Is it legal for YZ to deny entry for those who did not buy the RM99 voucher? Of cos NO. I urge the management to look into this matter seriously as we do not want to be conned again.
I am sure there are members out there who agree with me. Personally I hope that YZ will be able to survive but I urge members to think wisely and protect themselves frm being conned by YZ again.

Hi all,
just found out from the yogazone website that there will be some classes from tomorrow onwards, not many though. Check it out.

Hope everythin will get well soonest…
God bless YZ can rebuild…
TJ u must make an extra effort n dont give up!

Hey yogalover,
Maybe these two men just look “a bit” fierce and “look like” gangster,but not sure are they real gangster? i just guess! if Jenny Y and others staff/students/teacher still brave to go yoga club, then maybe is safe ?!
Why things become more n more complicated, we just want to learn yoga…

Dear all,
Kindly take note that the RM99 Yoga Voucher is not for members to purchase to attend classes on August, all the existing members are welcomed to join the classes, however, on walk-in basis to avoid miscommunication. The 99 Voucher is the first step to revive YZ; members can use this voucher to extend their membership in the future; passing to those others who want to try out yoga@YZ for one month; paying the service charge for their Golden Circle membership; redeem for one session of personal training@Y Fitness; etc. By doing this, we not only help YZ to bounce back faster but also get back something for what we pay for. Members please don’t misunderstand that this as a CHARITY DRIVE and it’s NON-COMPULSORY. However, your kind support will be much appreciated.
Marcus

Wei,just came back from oversea n wanted to start back my yoga class………….just few months time, everything change so fast:( classes r so LITTLE….how to fit in so many members?????

thank you adam!u r the one til now who still will answer our members call..even though sometimes u cant answer our call on time but after tat u still will call back us and settle our question…me,michelle,carmen,ms kong,fonie and etc were appreciate wat u did for us!we kno wats ur status now but pls dont give up us and ur dreams at here…ok?thanks for ur smiling and service,u r always the best in our heart!keep it up boy and thank u very much! ^_^

I’m sure yogazone would not be able to survive. There are no fresh capital coming in. How can they ask the members to pay them in order to save YZ? This is the job of TJ. Now, Iwan is not in the picture anymore. No constructive measures by the owner TJ. I’m so amazed of TJ, such an arrogant person!!!!
Never said a word of sorry to all the members of yogazone even he misused more than 10 million of people hard earned money. He thought people will buy his stupid story. Hello, TJ, we have more powerful brain than you! It is so obvious the failure of YZ is due to his mismanagement. It’s sad that we are being cheated by such an arrogant person.

givebackmymoney,
pls stop spam.

i joined free flow with a very cheap price, for the past one year i been attending more or less 10 classes every week, come to think of it, each of the classes only cost me less then rm10, so cheap.

i have nothing to say, neither i’m worry, but hope the club/group will one day return to its normal, as like those days where timetables are fully filled.

heard that’s a launching of one-month-free-flow ticket, i feel sorry that i can only support one as the ticket mean nothing to us GC members, but i think i can give it to friend to help promo a bit.

ah~ it’s morning already, it’s a time to practice surya-namaskara to recharge positive vibes into our body, soul and mind.

good day.

Hi jenny y,

I just called to Cheras outlet and it seems got more classes than published in the YZ website. Such as 6pm – Hatha 1, 6:30pm, 7:15pm and other classes (Pilates, Beg Pilates etc.). Ang and Cindy are teaching.

Also clarified with Lilian (Branch Manager) that must only those paying RM99 voucher can attend the classes and she said not true. Anyone that YZ membership is still valid can just attend the classes and these RM99 is on volunteer basis. She also clarified that the two big guy with sunglasses are not “ah long” but could be the student’s driver… (in doubt)!

So, it should be good news for Cheras members or those staying nearby like Sri Petaling branch members as we can attend the classes again, so just call to the outlet @ 03-91312068 to check out the schedule.

Happy practicing.

Namaste.

Diagnostic YC Cheras management team & consultants & teachers – 2000 members now is your boss to pay ur salary,if still keep the poor performance, next month will closed.Still no salary.I m GC member too at YC Cheras. I m pitty on member those are stil want to continue the class.
How to sell RM99 voucher? How to increase the value of RM99?
Diversify the programme, not only for yoga. Find the good teachers first, body compact, belly dance, hip hot etc.
Come out with a beautiful time table and stand by your good teachers.RM99 as upgrading fee. For those GC members and yearly members are dun want to pay,they are observers,not wrong! do self-practising at a room with ball. If good teachers, they will pay at the end.

To givebackmymoney and those hun,

u all must be came from next door yoga/ fitness centre….shuhh…shuhh…shuhh……
go back to ur place!
don’t try to make rumours and gallow all the members here!
we are not stupid like u!

YogaJess says: No worries. I deleted the ugly comments ade

jess,
u are great today!!!

YogaJess says: These people just want to see YZ die that is why they purposely created such rumours and bad mouth YZ. I’m just glad classes had resumed this morning. Well, it is a new start even though we can’t see what is the future yet. Life goes on, I guess. Let’s moved on to a new chapter.

if we buy d rm99 voucher, where will the cash go to?? to pay the teachers and staff or to pay the debtors??

Dear Teachers and All YZ Staffs,

Have you all got your salaries paid as promised by TJ? Hope you all have got whatever you deserved. You all are GREAT, THANK YOU!

It seems good sign today as classes resume at all outlets (eventhough lesser calsses) as promised by TJ. However, only few teachers turned up and only confirmed schedule for today. How about the other 6 days of the week? Are they planning on daily basis nowaday?

Hi Marcus, Great and jenny y,

In doubt of this RM99 campaign at Cheras branch as other outlets not selling this kind of vouchers. Agreed to Think_Logic that YZ cannot deny the entry of existing members that not buyng the RM99 voucher. And, it is true that all the YZ members can now (today)attend the classes. Cannot undestand why have to buy this voucher to pay off the electricity, water and rental as this is YZ’s debts and it could be huge amount which beyond our estimation…

As such, I totally agreed to Think_Logic quote on 3 August, 2008 at 10:50 pm:
“I am sure there are members out there who agree with me. Personally I hope that YZ will be able to survive but I urge members to think wisely and protect themselves frm being conned by YZ again.”

Happy that can continue to practice yoga again today and wish everyone have a nice and enjoyable class. Last but not least as advised above, i.e. think wisely on every action and decision.

jess,
are you attend this morning classes?
if yes,pls write an article about ur feeling.i’m sure many people will start to discuss on this topic.lets give YZ a new life!

YogaJess says: I have a day job like most of you. Will be going to the last class if there is any. Looking at the timetable it says 7.45pm but when I called, the front desk still need me to confirmed the class in the evening. By hook or by crooks, I will definitely attend the evening class. 7 days no Yoga is like a fish without water!

jess,
you just 7 days no yoga…
i 27 days no yoga since melaka YC closed down.
im a salted fish now….

YogaJess says: awwww…. ((((hugz))))

Hi Jess,

Really admire you. With a normal day job, you still can manage this blog so well, especially these few weeks reached 6,000+ pageviews. Really need to monitor closely when is the next upgrade.

Congrat that your blog is so popular now in Malaysia and I have to login everyday including weekends for update (part of my daily life already). I don’t even do this for checking my personal emails at yahoo and google. This is really your great success, haha..

based on the number of positive responses from yoga members, I believe the future of this industry is good and hope that YZ will learn from the past mistakes and take the company back to the right track…and greater height

Thomas is teaching 2 classes at Cheras Plaza as what he promised to the members! He was GREAT.

Hi mandy,
What did u mention just now?? What u mean at coming from next door yoga?? I’m member but often go yoga due to busy moments but still go when I manage to arrange my time… Bt when I know YZ closing down!!! Its like a shock!! Wishing to get refund

I heard, that there is no such thing as new management. Same people. its just a ploy to gain back confidence of members.

With all the awards, its a shame YZ has to go down this way. What happened? Bleeding too much with the fitness centre in Klang?

Its time to find true yoga centers. Not those that are too greedy, too commercialised, that they forget the true meaning of yoga as a lifestyle.

YogaJess says: You heard only. That is always the thing with rumours and gossiping. I rather wait and see than jump out of conclusion. Damage has been done. What can we do? All I can do now is make full used of what has given to me.

i totally support Mandy n Jess, scan all the viruses n delete them, dun let YZ be inffected anymore.
YZ ????? ?????????
?????????????????

how about malacca YC?
pity them.
As what TJ promised, all branches are gonna opened on monday, but less classes, but now seem only Cheras ones opening, moreover it is conducted by teachers themselves.
so where is TJ hiding right now?

YogaJess says: As I know Klang branch has resumed classes too.

I fully agree with jess. Damage has been done. We as members yearly or gc, no turning back. We should do our best to support YZ till the end. If YZ manage to survive, then it will be ‘all will survive’. It will either be a win-win case or a lose-lose case. Hope all members will give their fullest support to YZ. Less negative comment, then YZ will have a better chance of sruvivor. Isnt this what all members want.

No, we have not been paid in 3 months and we still are facing eviction and water, electricity etc.. shut off. As a foriegn teacher we don’t even have enough money to leave Malasia and go home. So when we are evicted from YZ housing, where do we go?

Hi YZGoingDown,

Since the classes are resume today, why not we just continue to practice and observe for another 1 or 2 weeks first. It’s too early to conclude and decide to go elsewhere unless something really far behind your expectation…

Hi Harry,

Referring to the YZ website, all the outlets (except malacca, sorry…) have classes today, but with lesser classes compared previously. There are a total of 19 teachers are teaching today in all the YZ outlets – namely, Zen, Au Yong, Dawid, Ang, Cindy, Penny, Thomas, Felix, Deepak, Pari, Matthew, Ninie, Gilbert, Lily, Grady, Jacq, Ah Xiang, Jane and BL Yap.

malacca YC, make full payment, NO CLASS, No outcome.. Answer ” Wait & see.

yes… i paid for my sis for the malacca branch. I was just informed by her few days ago. It is really not fair for us. Can you all feel what I am feeling now? I can deeply feeling that, everyone is trying to bluff each other that everything is gonna be fine although it is not, once some ppl got even only 1%(vouchour class) from what they wish, they are kinda satisfy because they had no confidence at all to get even this. In fact, they deserved more than that. To reduce their fear, they keep telling ppl to pour more believes. When they finally can attend for classes, they start forget about others that still cannot join the classes. Learn to let go? can you pay me few thousand and learn to let go? ridiculous and ugly humanity shown in this board.

EVERDAY go to http://www.yogazone.com.my see the timetable of all Kl outlet. i can only” ENVY” them. you all are lucky, still can learn from good teachers. what abt malacca members?? Kesiannnnnnnnnnn

Yoda Lover, there are the great teacher, i solute them with the best respect I have.

As a GC member, i treat yz like my family, will protect yz whenever i can.
I dont care the troublemakers are from centre next door or our members, they are not only spread rumour, they even gallow us now, you are really mean and shameless. i want to tell you that you not goingto make it, coz we are not stupid, nobody listen to you!

Jess, you did the right thing, block their msg.

it’s encouraging and comforting to see teachers continuing to conduct classes, though the number of classes are far less than usual, i believe these are the true friends of TJ, and hope TJ acknowledges them for supporting through this very tough time.

Good Luck!

Yeah… it is good start for YZ. I wish YZ can continue with new start after paused to seek for solution. I not sure, whether solution was come out. I do wish all the YZ’s staff can get back what they should & continue to rock n roll with YZ.

For ‘teacher’, I hope you get the place to settle down(place to stay)!

For all the teacher, consultant, front desk who resume to work today, thank you very much.

I was at YC-Leisure Mall yesterday noon’s meeting. I can’t believed those members, if u don’t want to buy the voucher, just keep yr bloody mouth and do not poison others. Unless you totally wanted to stop yoga class, if not u even have to pay more to joint other yoga center right? For those unwilling to pay, please search around how much u need to pay for other classes, you think u still can have different type of classes like YC/YZ and walk in any times as u like ? i really respect those teachers can give us free classes without salary for the past months.

errrr…. im kind of blur already…… what is the RM99 voucher about?
mean we existing member still have to purchse RM99 voucher in order to join classes ?

how about life time member .. what can they do with their membership ?

pls advise

Well, I guess everyone is happy now!! We members have one way or another contributed towards this situation. Most of us were so worried about our $ but did anyone of us turn this situation into a positive one?? ‘Positive energy attracts positive situation’ Instead of waiting for a week to see the outcome, we rushed in to bring outsiders and broadcast it to the public. Whatever plans TJ had to save YZ via the banks have gone down the drain with the publicity given to it.

What is Yoga?? Obviously whatever ‘peace’ that was taught at yoga class was not portrayed these past few weeks. Abusive languages, making false accusations, ‘rowdies’ and the list can go on and on. If only Karan Johar was here he would have made a movie out of it at a very low budget cos there were a lot of scriptwriters to go around.
If only we had waited for a week, things could have turned for the better, but I guess ‘impatience’ ruled the day. So what does this tells us?? Whatever that was taught in yoga class in terms of mentality is all a fake cos we did exactly the oppositve of what was taught in yoga class. Can we at least for now hope for the best and start giving encouraging words instead. We can at least boost up the morale of the staff left to continue working for YZ.

To TJ : You are in the yoga business where there is peace, tranquility, soft spokeness, slow moving, etc. Arent you suppose to be meditating and taking control of it. Obviously you and your teacher were not doing what you’ll were preaching. If you still love what you started then start meditating everyday and use your mind mapping power to overcome these problems. If there is a will, there is a way. Nothing is impossible to the human mind. Yoga is a technique of self-awareness that integrates the mind and the body. By uniting the two, yoga helps to control negative and destructive thought patterns and assit the mind to work with rather than against the body. Take control of it and don’t give in to defeat.

To the new management : Please consider all the innocent members who had nothing to do with this situation and just want to continue learning. Please honour our membership for what we have paid for. In this way we will sent out positive vibes which will be circulated in terms of advert for your business.

To the foreign teachers: I sympathize with your situation. Instead of moaning and groaning about your situation, why not see it as a blessing in disguise. Do your homework and research. There are a lot of fitness centres/studios around KL looking for last minute/relief yoga instructors.

To the others just remember this : Whatever you say or write could either bring a person up and bring a person down. Sometimes the words we use can be as sharp as a sword and could lead a person into depression. At the end of the day did we get what we hoped for?? Instead we aggravated the situation by bringing in the media and politicians and whatever $ the banks wanted to release are now on hold due to the publicity of this issue.

Remember each time we point one finger the other four fingers are pointing back at us!!

Hi SK,catepillar, yogalover & all the rest.
Please refer to Marcus’s comments on 4 Aug,12.16am. Sorry about the confusion on the RM99 voucher as I left the meeting midway. I attended Thomas’s class this morning & feel more energetic now.

SK,
I’m happy you’ll be able to attend class too.

Hi Fei,

Pardon me, are you scolding at me on your quote on 4 August, 2008 at 11:52 am

“I dont care the troublemakers are from centre next door or our members, they are not only spread rumour, they even gallow us now, you are really mean and shameless. i want to tell you that you not goingto make it, coz we are not stupid, nobody listen to you! Jess, you did the right thing, block their msg.”

A bit lost but agreed with you that the teachers here are great and I respect them as well. But who are you referring to as “traublemakers” here? Please be clear that I’m not but in fact just updating everyone here what I know and want to get other update which I don’t know. As such, appreciate this blog with some useful update (of course not all…).

newbiz, though i do not fully oppose to what you have said but i beg to differ on you claiming that the members of YZ that brought in media & politicians into this situation is purposefully making it worse. Though I am not one of them but I understand why some decide to do so.

Think about it for a second, when did TJ or YZG management made a formal and public announcement that all classes and massage sessions will be temporarily stopped for a week due to internal management matter? Its a fact that this was done very last minute, hastily without any prior planning whatsoever.

Please remember not everyone reads this blog and not everyone uses the Internet like we do. Without proper communication channel, of course members will get worried and confused – coming to class one day and find out only with a piece of paper stuck to the door that everything is off for 1 week?? Plus all the rumours that been going on for months, its a given that a regular member will get worried.

Having said all this, what we members need to do right now is communicate closely with the management and understand what will happen to the following weeks of YZG. And I do hope that YZG will communicate frankly and openly to us members, at this stage – no point sugar coating everything. As members we rather hear the truth than have another episode of this miscommunication happen to us again.

For more and inside info of what our dearest teachers have been going through,
http://theyogainstructordiaries.blogspot.com

And she still agrees to teach today!

If you really want to practice yoga at YZ, please buy the RM99 voucher to show your support!!!

YogaJess says: Sorry hor, I won’t buy. I have just activated my GC membership in February paying RM3.5k. No way I am coming up with anymore money. If the owner of YZ want YZC to survived, they need to go out and get more sales. So you tell me, how to support them la.

Haiz,
cant you feel the fear deep inside fei? I can.
We are all like victims and locked in a room for slaughter.
She is kinda being told that, alright, you MIGHT being released later.
When we try to do something, she shouts that, dont make the slaughterer angry, you gonna die is the fact, but i still have hope, dont take away my hope.
nice one, I respect you.

YC student,
it must be brought to media.
We must show our anger to media.
This is our right.
Dont you think TJ at least do something because of the pressure from media?
else, i dont think TJ will do what what meeting and all these.

what about tmr? Got class or not? I don’t agree to buy RM99 voucher to ’save’ YZ. Finacial controller Mucus fr YZ already said YZ is in bad debt. How much? No one knows. It is not right to ask the members to pay another RM99 again to save n boost the image of YZ etc. How long can this go on? Be realistic.The damage is coz by YZ management, n now u want the members to patch it? My heart is heavy….coz i also love YZ n especially the teachers….

im not trying to say anyone,i just said to ‘those Hun’.Jadi,siapa makan cili,dia yang terasa lah…
u all please try to think about melaka members,you all are very lucky you know?why still want to argue this and that?
ask yourself a question,why you want to join membership?to learn yoga,right?then now the class open back again,why still got people try to make all the nonsense question?try to gallow people here?if u are doubt and worry,don’t go,stay at home.YZ still won’t pay back your money.if you truly want to go,just enjoy your class.
we can’t do anything now,just accept and hope for the best.
u all know until now the new management still never give melaka members an answer.how pity we are???
so should be appreciate what u have now.

To all the teachers in YZ/YC, I salute you! No amount of thanks would suffice the sacrifice you are putting in by teaching us with no pay from YZG. I do hope that YZG will come up with a solution FAST. Though as members we would love to still attend classes in YZ/YC as we have paid our hard earn $$ for it but we (I) cannot expect my dear teachers to continue teaching for nothing. I wishes you all the best.
Harry, I did not disagree with the members that brought in the media, to an extend I understand why they did what they did. Anyway, what’s done is done. My hope now is to revive YZ/YC or at least let us true yoga lovers continue attending classes and the true yoga teachers to continue teaching (with pay please).

Lucky for you all that your yoga centre is back to operate…Sadly for members of Yoga zone in Kota Kinabalu Sabah, The fitness centre has to be closed for 3 months due to change of management and upgrading. What a loss for the members. How is this fair for them?…and what is the guarantee that the fitness centre will operate again in 3 months?…

Probably what this Mr. TJ is going through is similar like what Donald Trump experience in his fall of business and monopoly. Its just matter of time. But dont be that confident, cause you did not invest in properties, you only rented the few shops and wasted all your time.

Dear Yoga Lover, Off course you are not the troublemaker i mentioned. In fact i really appreciate that you help us a lot by providing latest info, clearing the doubts with all the constructive advises like issues in rm99 vourcher and the cheras meeting.

I’m sorry to get you confuse fr my prevous msg. I was actually irritated by givebackmymoney’s msg, he (i mean givebackmymoney, not anybody else) is mean and shameless, b’coz we only started to see the hope fr the classes today, then try he (i mean givebackmymoney, not anybody else) create another chaos to sabotage it.

I sincerely must say a big THANK YOU to all the teachers who teach today in all the centres.
Sorry I doubted YZ that it could not open. I should have state earlier that I doubted TJ’s ability to come out with $ to pay the teachers. but I totally forgot that there are goo. I mean super GREAT teachers out there who are willing to give more than take and conduct classes no matter what happen. THANK YOU..

To All,
With this current Situation that’s goin on……. for having to pay extra RM99 extra in order to attend class, to me is just another way to buy TIME that’s all. I agree with some of you here that it’s not right. There’s no ending to this as it’s not so easy to solve whatever problems YZ is facing!!!

I agree with Jess, we had pay so much as GC than y still need to pay RM99 to get a voucher. Imagine 18000 members multiply RM99..how much???? It is RM1,782,000 or RM1.782 million. What about next mth..the folliwing motnh and etc..still need to pay RM99 meh. Sorry no way lor.

Hi Fei,

I’m sorry being so offended earlier as too many sleepless nites already. A bit blur in my mind. But really glad to know you here who always inject positive thoughts to all of us here. Hope everyone have an enjoyable class today but feel sorry to the malacca’s members… Cheers…

Hi jenny, i attended penny’s class this morning.she’s really profesional. thanks penny, u r great. always look at the bright side of things, hopefully yz will be able to survive.

Thanks – all the teachers.. Big Salute to all of you! Truly appreciate!

Hi Yoga Lover, No need to say sorry, remember we are in one family – yz family.

Pls do not worry, after read hundreds of msg here, i start to believe that with all the members perseverance and warmheartedness will allowed yz to survive the difficult times.

hi, just called Cheras branch to find out classes…the staff informed that they will priority for members walk in with RM99 voucher even we have reach there early 1 hr to attend class..meaning tat they will entertain those with RM99 voucher…then how abt those without voucher?? no class for them??

Hi Psycho Yoga,

Can’t really compare TJ with Donald Trump as the latter is a real businessman with business mind. Trump was brave to face the problems during his difficult time but not TJ. Like what you mentioned, Trump invest in properties while TJ invest in people (especially teachers) but more than 50% of his assets left him as they don’t trust him anymore.

May be TJ is right that YZ and him are 2 different entity. We may lost trust and confidence on him but we still like the YZ family especially the teachers and those frontdesk who always with smiling face and greet us Namaste.

Agreed, YZ has great teachers and frontdesk friends/comsultants, let’s support them and YZ in this difficult time…

i just came back fr Ang’s class, was full hse. I told myself i must go coz this may b his last class in YZ and the last class for me in YZ. The hope is there but i know i am cheating myself. I must thank and salute to all the teachers, 16 of them, for their peserverence and holding to their yoga mind…where ever you all go after this, i must wish u all good luck and all the best. If i can afford to have a yoga centre, u all will be the first i will employ….because i know i can count on all of you! I am going to miss all of u…till we meet again…in another zone…

Salute to Chee Ling, she turned up for 6.30 p.m. class at Cheras Plaza despite she wasn’t well. This is the first time I attended her class and I believed it will not be the last time, I stay positive. I have a lot of respect for her professionalism, she knew the importance of her show up at this critical moment, otherwise there will be more speculations and negative talks,THANK YOU, Chee Ling!

To catepillar,

Dont worry about the calculation, YZ dont have so much members at this time. Only 1/3 more abit of the figure.

As you all can see, after this incident, YZ will not be having the staff that the members looks always, but anyway, hope new incomers will able to preform a batter task then the old ones.

to all,
please watch tonight 9.30pm ntv7 mandarin news!maybe have something interesting!

i wish to say sorry, as the two men in Cheras Plaza maybe are not gangster but are TJ’s bodyguard. SOrry for that.
there were two teachers came for teaching. The f/desk and 1 of the teacher trying to sell the RM99 voucher, they told me that the RM 99 voucher is paying to the staff & teacher, to help they on petrol & some simple meal, hopefully by selling more voucher, they can attract more teachers come back to teach, as now only 16 teachers running almost 8 centres 7 days a week.
please bear in mind that they have not get back their basic salary yet, but everyone of them wish YogaZone can last at least until the new mgnt take over.
Honestly, i have not buy any yet, as im not rich enough to help. But i really wish to help. Looking at these teachers and f/desk, i feel sorry to them, they are not marketing ppl, not sales men/girl, not promoter but they’re teachers- professional person.
i always called myself as a student but not a customer, though the headmaster doesnt manage the school well, but thank god, we still have good teacher and good admins…
Hope the school holiday over asap.

by the way, what is news in NTV7? as i was busy typing just now….

I hope fellow members if you can afford, do support the RM99 vouchers. If this can help to support the teachers and staff running the classes now, then there is a hope for YZ … let’s us positive

It is glad to know that those classes in the various YZ were successfully run by those committed teachers. A big solute not only to them but also to those yoga lovers who had been trying their best to save YZ. Come to think of it, if not because of this YZ problem, we may not notice that there are so many die heart yoga supporters out there; who are willing to support YZ till the last minute, who are willing to stand behind YZ even though they may not get their pay check, who calls all of us to be united and not listening to the rumours etc. For that, I think all of you had demonstrated the highest level in yoga spirit…
If I were the new management and if I know there are so many of you who love to practice yoga, I will not think twice to buy over YZ. By having some many supporters behind it, and by having the dedicated “Last 16″ , I know YZ will certainly have a better tomorrow…. Namaste..

i AM WIlling to pay RM 99.00, IF I PAY, Is YC Melaka will resume class, is those previous teacher will back to teach us??? i dont know what happend to YC melaka, money also seems can’t solve. i dont know what they want?????

Please think, if yogazone really closed down. Can you find such a school with so many class in a day? can you attend the classes (free flow) till you almost die (some ppl do so) and only pay less thn RM 120 monthly? can you find a “school” that are near to your office or near to your house (nd not jam all the way to xxx valley) ? actually i wish to know also … perhaps i will jump over there after my “student” card expired. :p

What am i trying to tell? i also not sure..hee
perhaps to motivate some of us, and some of you!!!
fOr those who are able to help, please buy the voucher.
i can only support you guys mentally!!sorry, im not rich enough to help.

im learning Yoga, so “flying to yog”a, but i do not hope that one day yoga will fly aways from me

I just noticed that there are actually more and more teachers coming back to conduct classes!! You all had done a great job! We can make this happen.

Thanks Lily!i just attend ur class in this morning only and its oso my 1st time to join ur class!!really long time havent practise oredi and my back pain was come back again…getting old oredi?hope not…haha!!
but i felt so sad n pity to one of the staff at there cz he is alone in this morning…he was DAMN BUSY to answer phone calls,register classes and handle the member’s enquiries & complaints!
he was try to push the rm99 voucher to everyone at there but the feedback seem like not really good(sorry to say)…when one of the member reject him another member was try to making trouble say wat “UR COMPANY OREDI CHEATED MY FEW THOUSAND,SO NOW STILL WANNA TRY TO CHEAT MY RM99 AGAIN?ISIT IM LOOK LIKE IDIOT…?” “Y NOW U ALL CONSULTANT BECOME LIKE A BEGGER ALREADY?SHAME ON UR PARENTS…” “WATS THE STATUS OF UR COMPANY NOW…?” “AH BLA BLA BLA…”
he was try calm the members down but failed.more than 10 of the members were around him…pity of him(sorry to say the members let me feel so disturbing!)
after handle them,he still come to greet me with his sweet smiling face and said sorry to me cz just now he was busy so cant attend me and try to sell the rm99 voucher to me…my heart just feel so sad to him and say “u alone?u shouldnt to become like that…”he just answer “wat to do?thanks for ur time and hope to c u tomorrow again……!”
when i left there and on the way go for work,wat the happened this morning was keep on appear in my brain and i tears for the staff…dont know why?
sorry,i cant help u anything…hope everything of u will be ok soon and wish u r not try to show happyness when u r sad…GOOD LUCK!! (^-^)

i attended NINIE’s slim hot class at damas earlier. she wore ‘I MAKE IT LOOK EASY TSHIRT’ she wore in her blog.
i think she cried or at list tear up while she gave the closure speech to finish her class, cannot realy see. she said, ‘dont open your eyes yet, dont be distracted only on what you see in the mirror in front of you. just be greatful that the room is no longer hot, our body dont have to twist in pain anymore, our heart can still feel this good.’ then sumthing like ‘just appreciate that the air around your is free, the silence around us is beautiful’ and then we heard her small cry, and she end with,’and that we are still here, breathing and alive.’
i almost cry too.
thank you NINIE and all teachers that still teach altho not paid, dont eat all day. there is a special place somewhere in heaven if not in future for hearts like you teachers.

hello mr TJ when can u come out with a solution.cannot apply double standard with rm99 voucher with priority no voucher have to wait…..1st u create misunderstanding between u and teachers 2nd misunderstanding between teachers and students now misunderstanding between students then all will die soon…what i understand fr those comment pity for yr front desk and teachers also cos till today they still dont get their pay with yr last wed promise during meeting in cheras

U first must admit yr business strategy is wrong how can u yr business survive without monthly subscriptions for yr monthly expenses.I m a golfer we pay RM50000 for a membership. monthly still have to pay subs about $200 and buggy $60 everytime we play.

I think a min subsriptions is acceptable by most members cos we understand what is overheads and expenses we love goya we love yz we dont want it to close

What is the operating hours now in Klang Bukit tinggi branch? Anyone knows? There is supposedly a class but I called to confirm , no one picked upthe phone???? Since they have closed down YF KK and Malacca branch, they can sell off the assets to get cash for the teachers salary.

what asset u think yz have all the yoga mats and fitballs?

Just to share, I bought a RM99 voucher this afternoon but I think I will buy another one tomorrow… Stupid right? For a GC member who already paid MYR 3,500 , why should I pay another 99 for the class?
For 1 simple reason: I do not wish to see YZ to go down.
If the teachers are still willing to conduct class even though YZ still owe them 2 mths salary, if more and more teachers are coming back to teach and contribute the best they can.. what is my RM99 compare to them ?
One more selfish reason: I had paid RM3,500 for the GC and if YZ goes down, there goes my 3,500. If the RM99 can help to generate some cash flow for YZ during this critical time and turn YZ around, I save my RM3,500 and can continue to enjoy my yoga class. And if I had paid RM3,500, what extra risk do I have for this RM99? But if this RM99 really works, I know I will be seeing a lot more happy and smiling faces at YZ again…

TJ pls come out with a solution fast before yr last 16 teachers leaving u i heard ah xiang is next to leave

2007-Penang,Cheras Queens Park outlet close down(victims more than 2000 people)
2008-Melaka,YF @ KK close down(victims more than 1500 people)
How about YF @ Kepong Brem Mall and Bkt Tinggi?? (now sign up members more than 1000 people already!)

i feel sadden when i came across another yz member blog telling us about her experience of asking refund fr one of the yz outlet.

Yogazone is sicked, a good doctor (new management) is curing him now. but yz still need medicine, members are the best medicine, believe me yogazone still can fully recover, if it has our members full supports. i’m begging all the members just bear with us, dont ask for refund, yz need a second chance.

I just attended 2 yoga classes this evening, it were full house la!

hi all, tis is tha first time i write a comment after reading and follow up on the blog so long, from my sight as a staff of YZ, i really hope that this rm99 voucher would attract more members to help us, nobody wanted YZ to go down and lost one of their daily activities(i going for class everyday i could, before going to work or after work).

with the voucher you members willing to buy from us, we are able to continue to work, and servicing all the existing member, so sorry for any inconvinience when u members comes to my designated outlet, where i couldnt give the best service i could to all of you.
from my very honest word and i hope all the member would listen, please, help us to pass this critical situation, and let YZ remain, for members to attend class, for us staff to assure our rice bowl still can feed us, and to communicate among member/teacher/staffs

my only one cent comment,
Namaste….

yogamind, I agree that if they should sell the assets in YF KK to pay the teachers’ salary but the thing is are there any assets there? I mean did they have the equipment to sell, to begin with?
Anyway, I went for the evening class today. I like many too thought that the RM99 voucher was a gimmick by YZG management/company to get money, its only after the class I understand that the voucher will not go the YZG but to the dedicated teachers and staffs that are still here to operate the classes for us without pay. I didn’t buy the voucher as I didn’t bring enough cash but I will purchase the voucher tomorrow – this is my only way to show support and thanks to all of them that have not given up on us. A suggestion to to those that would like to purchase the vouchers as a show of support, pay in cash. If you pay by credit card, I’m afraid that the $$ might go to the company rather than the deserving people that we love.
To TJ, I have never commented on you but I have to say after so many weeks of reading your response and hoo-haa in this blog, you are really a disappointment. After last week’s commotion in Cheras branch with the media and Tan Kok Wai (tho I wasn’t present at that time), but what was reported in the newspapers and news on tv: of new management to resolve the current YZ situation, selling of your share, paying the teachers & staffs the salary you have owed them – till to-date, nothing, nada from you! None of the said was done nor inform of updates from you. What a disgrace, truly despicable. And to think that I use to attend your class, I’m shaking my head in disbelieve to find out that this is the real you.

To YogaLover I’m glad that you are not as naive as those who urge members to participate in the Rm99 campaign.

To chinchin on 4 August, 2008 at 12:20 pm # who quoted the below
“I was at YC-Leisure Mall yesterday noon’s meeting. I can’t believed those members, if u don’t want to buy the voucher, just keep yr bloody mouth and do not poison others.”

Why are you getting so angry over the meeting held on Sunday? Have you not know everyone has the ‘RIGHT’ to voice out their opinion? Come on, we are living in a DEMOCRATIC country. For a sensible person (no, I am not saying that you are not sensible), he or she will not blindly follow decision or opinion that doesn’t has any logic in it. As a consumer, we have the right to question and hence take the correct action. We are not babies or liltle kids who are easily cheated by a piece of lolipop.

And I most agreed with YogaJess that members who have paid (esp GC’s) that there is no point of buying the Rm99 voucher. Why should we when TJ mis-managed our monies? Dont get me wrong, I am actually a good hearted person and will be very disheartened to see YZ going down the drain. I would love to help but is YZ or TJ worth helping??? We are talking abt billions of ringgit here being cheated!!!

Marcus I understand what you are trying to say regarding the Rm99 voucher…so that we can save YZ or TJ from the recent heart attack (so it will not progress to a stroke). Will I be soooo NAIVE to ‘donate’ more $$$? I’d rather donate it to the old folks home or orphanage.

Pls no heart-feelings as this is my point of view and I m not pointing any fingers or trying to poison you people to are reading this!!!

Forgive me, all, for being one of the pessimistic ones last week – thinking that it wld take more than 1 week for the ‘doctor’ to resuscitate YZ. Thk God YZ is reopened now! I will not pay more money now though (since my membership is still current); but will definitely renew my membership in due course. I hope the doctor continues to work harder for the sake of YZ.

I came across Ninie’s website (www.theyogainstructordiaries.blogspot.com) and am so amazed to hear of her perseverance. Like Ninie, I too, prayed for a miracle! If you have a teacher who is still so motivated and still wakes up early in the morning and battles the traffic for you and I (and for her lunches, of course) despite all the obtacles, don’t you feel inspired? Thanks Ninie and all the other instructors out there! My thanks also to all the staff and cleaners.

I miss Lai Yee so so much!

Dear Mr.TJ, I know u are still following this site although u said u are not going to write. U must be very proud now seeing yr teachers fighting the last battle for you. They are our heros and heroies. I wonder what are u doing now? Sipping yr very best champagne or is yr heart as heavy as the members n teachers? Some said you are going mad. Pls don’t go mad coz u simply can’t afford to. All members are waiting anxiously for you to rescuse YZ. If you are running out of ideas already,I suggest u quickly sell YZ before the price go down further and also to safe yr face if u still hv any. Do u think anyone will be still keen? Some said anyone can also start one club like YZ….it doesnt cost very much lah. I wish u all the best…

I have been following this blog all the time and checking the yogazone website for latest news. I think YZ is in progress to arrange yoga classes. I can see that there are few classes in the morning and in the evening at all outlet except Melaka.

So, if you wish to attend the class, please do so and spread the news to your fellow friends that would like to attend class

Kepong morning class is quiet this morning because many members doesn’t aware of classes in the morning. i have bought the rm99 voucher to support the teachers and staff and i have also sold the voucher to my friend. Now talking to another friend to convince her to take this special promotion. Hopefully she will buy as well. Hi members, lets do your best to support in terms of whatever you can do. Cheers….

I’m not supposed to give any further comment/ reply. The 99 voucher is not asking anyone to help me to clear my debts, it’s about asking the fellow members to sustain YZ for this month, everything can be frozen but not the on-going operational cost, I just wish that we can go through this month and everything will be smoothen by next month. You can condemn me as you like, but not the staff, they are not the beggars, they are the most professional one, I never meant to cheat anyone that’s why the transition must go through, I’m just asking for this, why no one see the reason that pay was again delayed? It’s because of the news, it’s truly beyond my control, i take out whatever I had to support as I know I don’t have the business sense and I’m taking the responsibility. Once the salary is all cleared and up to date, I’ll make sure I’m out of this completely. Can I just beg for a chance to revive yz? Just a chance. Yes, the teachers who resume classes are heroes, supposedly without their support, YZ is gone.
Luckily I have the frontdesk/consultants to help out, I need to rush for press conference to clear the clouds, to meet the investors for meetings, why? Just to make sure this can go through. Do hate me, curse me to hell, but please give a chance to YZ. I’m not leaving till my last breathe simply I have tomake things righ before I leave. I did admit my fault and my wrong-doing, I’m not running away from responsibilty.
99 voucher is SIMPLY VOLUNTEERILY, and NO PRIORITY WILL BE GIVEN TO THE PURCHASER, the bank hold our merchantpayment due to the news in the press, we have a good 100k+ plus which can be used to pay salary on hold, I simply have no more way tomake things better, but I’m still trying.
why did you all say y fitness kk is closed??? The employees and members can witness it’s opening, I beg you all don’t spread rumours, please, please, just one chance, for yz, not me. Please.

Now Yogazone no HR department,no account department then when the payslip and the salary out?And also no finance.Now Encik Iwan dont want to buy the comapany already?What happen to them?The one who said RM99 is not for charity,this noon that a guy say this RM99 is condiser to staff salary.All ambassador have to do like this like begger.Some times that I think begger is more good than yogazone staff,u see begger no need to face problem just sleep beside the street or under the bridge but the yogazone staff have to face many problem just like when some customer want refund the fees the staff dont know what person can in charge this case cause management there no people handle this refund case.Some person ask are this yogazone closing down.And all the phone calls asking is the yogazone have to closing down.Sigh!TJ what your promis is you will bank in our salary before 12am 03/08/08 but now everybody didnt receive yet.How you say to all staff..you say management them just do nothing but get high pay,yoga instuctor unprofessional dont know how to teach and always cancel the class or try to boycott to teach,the staffs performance very bad sales are slow and make whole company cant cover the operation cost.You still give the empty promise to us and we can dont want to open the outlet this is last week that you said if you havent bank in yet to all staff.Till today we still open the outlet.Still help to face the problem from you not yogazone.You see last time you on this website say this thing If, I, TJ, have INTENTIONALLY con/cheat/lie to any of my employees/suppliers/creditors, I will knock down by car and immediately, and there shall be no place on earth to bury my body.I think this also empty promis just like the dud cheque you give.I have no idea that you say you cut your hair is just because yoga sick,think about it yoga is always make our body healthy everytime is only you sick dont blame yoga just blame yourself.Now i think 90% dont want to trust you anymore.Dont think that you never lie you never fault.Dont tell me you face all the media and you give all the message to media is true.Think before you say the each word to all staff.No one trust you anymore.Is you betray yoga.Is you let your company down.Is you let all the game is over!

Dear TJ,
u still need our lovely teachers,consultants and front desks wait til when?
TJ said “I just wish that we can go through this month and everything will be smoothen by next month.”
wats ur solution?where is ur plan?wher is ur so called “NEW MANAGEMENT”?why everything u already announce on news and newspaper but u still can empty promises like nothing?all ur staffs already dont know wat they’re doing…stress!tension!worry!fear!insult by others!lost confident!lost believe on each others…
u know even though they r not my “who”,today when i heard some members called my consultant as begger…do u know how feel am i?i tears for him…
my heart was sad to saw every teachers n staffs their sadly face again!i dont know we r try to lie each other or still dont know pretend like nothing…u tell me ok??pls…i beg u too!!TJ… T_T

Hi everyone here..

Good day to you..I’m sure all the YZ teachers,staffs,Members *Love* YZ that’s why they willing to fight for it…As a member of YZ..will keep supporting you guy and Mr.TJ, We know that you are trying your best..Therefore,no matter how hard,pls don’t give up..:).Remember the Green Yoga???WE LOVE YOGA, WE LOVE YOGAZONE..

Have a smile to yourself everyone..

Cheers,

TJ,
Dun sleep 1st… please reply me…
When x YZG staff will get their bal salary for june and july salary???
Dun play play plss… thats alot of us waiting for our salary leh… when u1 sales,v chase sales for u… but when v1 salary then u start pretend BLIND here? plss… plss…. plsss… WE NEED OUR SALARY!!! When u only want pay us????

The new management will first take care of two thing, in no way they can nor acknowledging this:-
1. The existing benefits/ privilege of the membership remain unchange.
2. The priority to clear the salary up to date for all employees, both existing and resigned, and the dateline is by august.
I won’t reply on this two issues anymore.

hi! i’ve been following this blog like everyone did. i dun c any improvement. wat TJ promise all r empty. He oni pointing finger to his staff who left him. he didnt think of how they help him at 1st. if u kn yr acc no $$$$ y still issue so many cheques? knowing the staff n teacher still working, A BIG TKS to them . Selling the RM99 voucher i totally agree wif Lucifer. Later if TJ no $$$ to pay 4 electricity,water, rentel etc. is it tat v help again? if tat is the case ask him sell it to the members. i’m oso a GC members. i join coz the good teacher and not bcoz is cheap. i oso miss my fav teacher like Angie, Lila, Serena and Azmi. They r really good. i sincerely hope TJ will settle his problem and get bk those good teacher.

Dear All,

For whatever reasons, please don’t use unkind words on our teachers and YZ staff…please. Just like lkw, I will continue to support the RM99 vouchers. If we want YZ to survive (I don’t know TJ and to me the focus is to see YZ sails through this crisis for the benefits of the members and also Yoga industry in the country), please give us the support… with metta…thank you

hahaha by buying the voucher i think it oni help TJ to settle his debts (interest oni). since members is helping i think he is relaxing and laughing now. he will think “see, when i play tai chi, members start to worry and now members are helping me. therefore i think teachers will get their pay even later and no news. for those teachers and staff who resign even worst they cant get a single sen perhaps.

When I first came into this blog since 15 Jul, I felt sympathy to TJ especially on the topic “Namaste Frugal Club” where he was scolded and cursed by so many ppl (teachers, staffs and members) but he continued trying his best to answer or defend. I kept on hoping he could really come out a good win/win solution (though I knew the chance was so slim). I also tried my best to convince my friends and fellow members to be patient and wait for the solution from TJ as we all have been paying so much and the key point is we like yoga, we like YZ’s teachers, environment and the flexibility of timetable.

However, I’m really disappointed with what were happened since the 1 week closure of all the outlets. I took his (TJ) very good quote on his very first comment at “Namaste Frugal Club” on 12 July, 2008 at 2:21 pm # that “I See, I Watch, I Observe, I Analyze, Then Conclude”. I did that and now Conclude one thing, i.e. he keeps on with EMPTY PROMISES. Really don’t know which statement from him is actually true or may be none…
1. Payment to teachers and staffs kept on postponed and delay. Followed by bounced cheque for May salary in end of Jul, then promised during the meeting in Cheras for salaries released on midnight 3rd Aug but again no fund was successfully transfered… blame to the media and so on….

2. 1 week closure is for New Management to restructure… A week is over and no new structure is out. We yet to know or see the new management. If they already come into the picture why should the existing members buying the RM99 voucher to support the YZ for another month?? So many members are so sincere and kind enough to buy this voucher with extra $$ from the pockets without blaming or querying further by showing up their support. I will only strongly support this campaign by buying and helping to sell this voucher if TJ say that he can’t afford to support anymore and no new management is coming in. But this is not the case and should not the way if the new management already taken over or involved in YZG. Really in doubt…
My company went thru few times restructing and new management came into picture with very smooth in operation during the process but not like how it is in YZG situation now…

There is no offence here but just want to share my feeling. I practice yoga with the objective to have a healthier life which I really enjoyed it for the past a year eventhough I’m so stiff and unable to perform a lot of the postures. But now, too tired with mentally stressed on YZ matter…. Some more in DOUBTS!

Anyway, since the classes are available now, we as members should just attend as much as we wish and do appreciate the services given by the teachers and the staffs there. Not worth to argue so much as we want peace and everyone is so unique in this universe that having different thoughts. Moreover, eveyone has the right to voice out their own opinion (to voice out but not to argue).

One thing I agreed and like from TJ is his quote: SEE, WATCH, OBSERVE, ANALYZE, TEN CONCLUDE. So, hope we all can think wisely before any action by applying the above. Thanks.

Namaste.

Dear Sad,
Please refer to my previous feedback, we’re moving towards a right direction, and a same direction. Whatever you say will make YZ stronger, whether I’m relaxing/ laughing or not has nothing to do with the issue. You are not me, so don’t think how I think, furthermore, I don’t know the art of Tai Chi and definitely hope to learn in future. The “best 16″ ( in yoga mind, don’t call them last 16 ) teachers will know what we are doing, the existing employess in YZ is one team, one family, one direction.
One more time as a friendly reminder, don’t call them the beggars! You can call me beggar but not them! You are no one to criticize them. The 99 Campaign is to ensure the month of August with good energy and smooth transition before the new management taking over.
I NEVER ASKED MEMBERS TO HELP ME TO PAY YZ’S CREDITORS, MY SHARE SALE WOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PAY OFF THIS. Don’t stand as the point of view of investor if you are with the intention to ruin any possibility to revive YZ.
To the ex-employees: I would ke to inform you my decalaration stated very clearly all salary, both existing and resigned staff have to be up-to-date by the new management before I leave, any of your harmful words will just slow down the progress.
To the “guy-next-door”: The members are smart and sharp enough to make the judgement, by badmouthing others to win the battle is dirty; by being better than others to win the battle is the better way.
To existing employees: I see the effort everyone puts in, after all, actions speak louder. Thanks to Lilian and the team, Yvonnne and Yuki ( though resigned but still here to help ), Adam, Ivan, the Damas and The Weld team ( Achi, Rahmat, Irma, Ndah ), KK team ( Cloey, Ethan, the frontdesks and the instructors ), Centro team, Puchong team, BBT team, the office team ( Michelle, Lilian, Subha, Sarala, Miss Koh, Farah, David and Marcus ), the “Best 16″. Thank you once again.
To the existing members: I had re-assured the package/ membership you signed before will remain COMPLETELY UNCHANGED during the press conference yesterday.I believe that you love yoga, and believe in yoga, I will go all out to protect your benefits. Take my words. THIS WEEK CLASSES ARE COMPLETELY FREE, YOUR MEMBERSHIP WILL FURTHER BEING EXTENDED FOR ANOTHER 7 DAYS, ENJOY WITH THE BEST 16!
To the rest: Time will tell.

I personally do not think the Rm99 can do much unless all members support it. If only a handful supports it, then the money collected will again be not enough to support our teachers. So I hope each and every member can give their fullst support so that we can still have these teachers teaching us, at least for August . I will do my part this evening when i go for my classes

MR TJ MR TJ MR TJ TELL US WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO WITH YC MELAKA??????????????????

To Tj,

Good morning!!!!!
i still waiting

Dear MLK Confuse,
Alan has started the classes yesterday, lots of baseless accusation and defamation statements had been made to the 11 students who attended his free classes. Thanks to the YC members who are willling to make the statutory declaration about this matter. Will a yoga teacher attack others with untrue statement? Think twice.
Anyway, dear Malacca members, give us a bit more time to sort out KL, will come to you very soon before I leave the company next month, I promise!

Hi TJ,
I am happy that you are solving problem.Every businessman will face cashflow problem,i know.my wife and i also YZ member(even we signed up for a year but never been there yet.haha)I think you are very brave cos when some of the businessman facing prob they run away,at least u still online reply us.It is very good.
jia u and keep it up!we support u!but don let us wait too long..haha..

i agree with “member on 5 August, 2008 at 11:01 am #” comment, yes maybe some of the member are thinking just a merely Rm99 couldnt do anything much, but do u realize that this 99 could help our teachers to cover their petrol/toll/food expenses ?

most of the teacher like penny or cindy are willing to teach without even complaining about their 3 month postponed salary, we should salute teacher for that(sorry for my member who i lied that i get my salary, just to protect YZG from getting more bad rumors)

so members and staffs, teachers, lets assist everything you could to make the YZ able to pass this critical situation,

- if you can help in Rm99 voucher,
buy it
- if u cant help in the financial term, help mentally, support us and spread the news for us
- if u doesnt wanna help in both above, help physically, attend the class and support them by showing how much u love their class!

my one cent comment again

Regards,
TQ

To Tj,
we waiting for ur good news!
don’t give up!jia you,jia you!

Mandy, TJ will not understand that he is not Malaysian Chinese.
Kamba-Teh…….

tj…
Im one of your customer too..
Since some teacher and staff still willing to continue work for u. This is a good starting point for you once again.. But remember those who left earlier.. they need to survive too. Remember pay them the outstanding salary and EPF.. Be a responsible person and make ppl trust you once again.. This reflect how sincere your word.

dear yz teachers,

I have attended 2 lessons this morning in cheras i want to help but dont want to buy vouchers cos still have alot vouchers….maybe we can chip in funds in a box by way like donations i think many members may willing to pay like $5, $10 $20….everytime they attend classes..just for this months to support the teachers and staff

THANK YOU MR TJ FOR YOUR REPLY.

Mr TJ,
I have not met u and don know u.
Despite all the attacks against u, I still see that you r trying your best and i’m thankful and grateful. I choose to see the positive instead of the negative aspects. I have paid 5888 for my GC membership 1year plus ago, i certainly won want it to go down the drain. I think it is too cheap at that time and didnt expect it gets cheaper and even give free GC member if we can introduce 3 person sign up for yearly course. It irritated me a bit but i’m still thankful that i can afford to pay that much and money come to me in abundance endlessly and easily bcoz i believe it will and it does? U have to revise your fees structure in order to survive and sustain the high overhead cost. I visited a few other yoga centres during the one week “break”, their classes are much lesser even compared to what u have now and the fees are higher. I dont know what’s is in Your mind but i’ll always bless u and YZ and all the other dedicated staffs and teachers in my prayers. May everything straighten out smoothly and i hope u all the best. I Send my love to you and everyone. Pls take note that no matter how bad or how terrible it seems at this moment it will be over one day. U will be fine. Just trust that. I plead others to choose to be kind to the staffs and teachers, if u do not want to buy RM99 voucher, just keep quiet and do not condemn them. Whatever u give shall be returned in 10 folds. THis is the law of universe. i aalways see hope and love and kindness and abundance therefore i always receive them. Do not see lack or any negativities, u will get them.
The most powerful law in this dimension is the law of attraction and i’m living it and believing in it and benefited from it. Everyone, stay positive, if u can support financially ,pls do so if not your mental support r much appreciated.
There is no way to happiness, hapiness is the way. There is no way to peace, peace is the way.

tj,
?????????!
??, ??!!!!!

Yoga cannot be measured by any absolute standard. Stop selling the Golden Circle package in absolute terms. Whatever already done is a past.
Although yoga price are falling in absolute terms, energy is still expensive. I only vote those yoga teachers are sincerely contribute to yoga. RM99 is a support to them.

Dear members,
It’s a confirmation that there won’t be any Golden Circle/Lifetime membership at all in the future, those who signed up the Golden Circle membership will be the few priveleged one now, the terms and conditions will COMPLETELT REMAINED UNCHANGED.
Once again, thanks to the GC members, you all have invested for lifetime in yoga@YZ, we will definitely take good care of you.

Dear ex member,
you mean Tj don’t understand chinese?
haha…u r wrong.please read the above Tj’s posted comment by using chinese.his chinese standard good than everyone here le…don’t play-play oh…

Question 1:
TJ,u already announce in News said got new management came in and infuse fund to ur company but WHY i ask the teachers as i know they said not?some more nobody know ur so called “New Management” was change and came in?
Question 2,
TJ,u said “The priority to clear the salary up to date for all employees, both existing and resigned, and the dateline is by august…..”
above wat u wrote isit true?(go back to Question 1 again,the “New Management” already infuse fund”.)then why ur staffs need to keep selling rm99 voucher to survive in August?
Question 3,
Please read back wat u wrote at ytd midnight til this morning…do u feel all of ur comments with antinomy?
PLEASE answer my question to settle my haze…thank u!

QQ, I think that is a very good suggestion – to set up a box at each branch for us members to chip is some cash to help out the staff & teachers that are still operating the classes with pay. I guess that would be an alternative to the voucher system, as I feel many members may not want to purchase more monthly passes of YZ in this unsettling times. The box could another alternative for members who feel they would like to help but either are no interested in the vouchers or cannot pay the RM99. So dear YZ teachers and staff, think about it. To dear members, our teachers and staff also need to eat, if this box is set up – do chip in a few ringgit for the days you come for class, that way, it will ensure our classes will continue to operate, its just a thought…

Sorry a correction to my earlier entry – it is: “- to set up a box at each branch for us members to chip is some cash to help out the staff & teachers that are still operating the classes WITHOUT pay”. Had problem loading the earlier comments for editing so I’m making my correction here.

Dear TJ,
Will the old teachers come back to teach once the new management takes over? And will u be teaching again in YZ?

QQ idea might be a good one. Maybe just chip some money into the box after each class is better than buying the voucher at RM99. Work on this idea, it definetely will help, i think.

dear t.j,

just want to tell u that, even u fail to management yz, but just stand up to face u current problem and try u best to solve it,
and u can “contribute” yourself to teach yoga , to built up confident,show member that u are sincere, to rebuil member confident, don run away from mistake U MADE, I LOVE yoga very much, i hope that u can rebuilt yz, but definitely need time( if u have faith to rebuilt) nothing is perfect in this world, everybody will made mistake, wrong management, the thing is can u still accept the mistake and correct it from mistake, and till now most of the member didnt ask for refund, how lucky u are, i as a member also hope that yz can be there, good luck t.j

I think the money box is a good idea. At least we can show our appreciation for the staff and teachers.

Hi instructors like Ken, Dennis and Ethan and Kim and Phyllis, will you all come back and teach? Really looking forward to your class….

????…????????????!???YZ??,??..?????…???????????,??????????,…………..!!!!??????????.??!????…?????????!?????.

dear all, while setting up a box may be a good suggestion but we do have to consider the sensitivity of the teachers and YZ staff, in particular some unkind words had been said about they promoting RM99. I still think that the vouchers is a good way to help out the situation, if we like and can afford it, buy them to encourage our loved ones or friends to try out yoga. It can be a gift for a friend etc…

I do not know abt the 99 vouchers champaign. I going to find out later. Is it an offcial ideas from YZ management or merely a donation?
Like wat Lin said, the staff will only give priority to those with voucher, I don think this is fair already.
Btw, if it is a donation, doesn’t it need to be register?(Can some one tell me?).
Q1:Will these $ actually help?
Q2:Who control the $?
Q3:Which are the people benefit from the fund?

Thought that YZ mgt already make an official annoucement thru the media that, no refund, but give by way of voucher. Is this the voucher YZ mentioned, which is instead of refund, we need to pay back YZ? Where is the logic? This is confusing.

Thing are really complicated now.

Seem like YZ management doing one thing, there are other staffs running other thing, and the members doing other thing as well.

Wooohhh…really really complicated, really really confusing…

i’d been thinking, is it all comments here are posted by people whom related to YZ? or some are just here to make YZ collapse?
i wanna declare my stand, i hope to see yours too.
…
i’m a member, i don’t want refund, i want yoga, i want YZ.
…
what say you?

Hi YC Student. I have a lifetime membership but guess I don’t mind paying 99 voucher one time off in this heartbreaking time for the instructor and staff. It is more important that I get a place to practice yoga daily. It would be nice if someone can answer the questions posed by Jesslw. Further questions if someone who perhaps have additional info (pls no rumours,no cursing etc)
1. I wonder how many active members are there overall.
2. excess funds from the collection – where will the fund be channelled?
3. will the collection be used to pay the backdated pay.
Some tranparency in this ONE TIME OFF collection will make it easier for staff to promote the voluntary purchase of voucher.
I don’t mind using the $$$ to pay instructors and staff for this month transition period (coz the takeover should have a cut off period and bank account frozen for time being). Otherwise YC may need to close for longer period of time until the takeovr is finalised. Perhaps properly controlled 99 voucher is a win win situation. However, I do mind paying for someone’s folly. Food for thought!!
Good day!

i’m a member, i don’t want refund, i want yoga, i want YZ too. and one more i want Serena!

what the else say?

Janaka, Is not just that u declare your own stand. But most of the ppl(member) stand out thr.
The whole thing are just even more complicated. More confusing.
Guess, just hv to check it out myself from the studio. Hmmm…
I just keep quite now =.=”

Hi jesslw,

Please refer to Marcus’s( he is one of YZ’s staff)comments on 4 Aug.I am just a GC ,member who attended part of the members’ meeting on Sunday in Cheras outlet.

Hi QQ & member,

The idea of a donation box was brought up at the members’ meeting last Sunday in the Cheras outlet. It is not feasible as accountability will be problem. As it is the remaining staff are already stretched very thin trying to multitask. My suggestion is if you really want to help, share with a friend to buy a voucher.I was told by a teacher during class today the remaining teachers find it impossible to foot the petrol expenses to travel to the various outlets especially those far away like Puchong or Klang( guess relative to where they live).So if we don’t buy the voucher then classes cannot be carried out for the whole of August.We cannot dither anymore as the remaining teachers need money to carry on teaching us for this month.Even if we were to go somewhere else to practise we still need to pay.

And I agree with Ty if a donation box is placed at the outlet it’ll insult the dignity of the remaining teachers & staff.I am sure they don’t want to look upon themselves as charitable cases.

Dear QQ, just in case my edited reply did not get in on time. I don’t think it is a good idea to put cash box cos cash count need proper control for accountability and there is no documentation on cash collected. sorry from accounting background – always think cash means control.

yogamind, not sure if I could fully answer your query but this is what I understand from YC yesterday when I went to attend class. It is that the $$ collected from the vouchers will be split among the teachers & staffs that are still operating YZ right now, it is not to pay for the backdated pay but to still give them some means to survive their day-2-day life now as most of them do no have any $$ to go thru the week or day. As for the number of members of YZG I think the papers said its around 18,XXX

oh yes Jenny Y not a good idea in that sense too. They are just being ethical in continuing with the classes and yeah box sounds like charities! Just my thought

TQ YC student. Perhaps it will clear a lot more air if staff or instuctors can volunteer infor on Jesslw and my questions as well. Then I feel more comfortable in helping to promote the 99 voucher. People need to survive in this hard time!

Dear all, $$ paid out from all generous members are for the instructors, staff, cleaners for the month of AUGUST 2008 ONLY.

hi dear all, it is good to see more positive responses, I renewed as a GC member in Jan 2008 as I loved Yoga as much as I loved golf. The teachers need our support in this difficult time and I will buy another voucher this evening when I go for Yoga class at Cheras Plaza

I (GC member)will buy the voucher. Just to let u all know that, here another one (me)to support the campaign.

Dear All,
Practise generosity…people who give willingly of their possession, their money, time & energy are not doing it because they have it to give it. They r coming from a special heart space that is attracted to serving and sharing. We can all give something in service of other and in the service of our higher self as well. In our case here, we r just giving in return to those who r willing to serve and give us in this critical time with their loving kindness. pls give willingly if you can. Its not even “giving” as i call it , it is just a gesture of gratitude and appreciation to those who persevere with their dreams and giving us hope. If this little RM99 can help YZ tru difficult time, why not. It’s 4 the benefits of our goodself too.
Thank you and blessings to all.

hi,i hv joined YC > 3 yrs & had paid for my next renewal fees..i hv no complaints and issues with all the teachers and staffs since the 1st dy i attended the classes..everydy i rushed to attend the last class after my daily work & no matter how i tired but i felt hapi after the class…it’s just like my 2nd home…i really appreciated for these volunteer came out extra fund of $99 just to get 1 month classes but sorry to said i wouldt pay but doesnt means tats i’m not supporting them..but dun u think this will just a short term solution & we wouldt know whether there will b another collection again for the following month just because to get teachers back for classes..this $99 only directly pay for teachers & staffs salary..totally no relation to the management…how abt 1 dy the fund insufficient to cover their salary & again will there another colletion?? no one can promise future..perharps i shall wait for another month & see wat r they trying to do with members…tq..

just bought the vourcher.
I want YZ !

Strongly agree to lin ..

hi lin, understand your position…I was taught “yesterday was history that I couldn’t change and that I can’t predict tomorrow but I must treasure the present moment i.e seize the present moment..” just to share…

No comment at this moment. Guess I just need to find out on my own. But it is really offensive at first when I read the blog saying that the classes are given priority to those with vouchers. So, if that really come out from the mouth of the staffs in studio, that won’t be a wise to say that.
Thanks to those who replied my Q.

I was taught by parents, we do not harm and cheat no matter what, we do not condemn and critizise in any circumstances and we give love and kindness to every human kind. i have heart that made of flesh and i believe every one of us have one too.. I dont want to see teachers suffer and i hate to put them thru worries by the ACT of one human that ALMIGHTY GOD HAD CREATED. I dont really KNOW him but i DONT think i want to ever see him cos i BELIEVE he has his PURPOSE for causing so much AGONY in everyone of us FOR just one thing ~MONEY~

Back from long break and was shock to find yogazone in such a state! My usual favourite pilates teacher, Angie not teaching. Sad! really miss her class. she is one great pilates teacher i ever encounter. Can the owner please put the company right and bring her back??

To all,
i wish i can buy the RM99 voucher to help YZ and the ‘Best16′.but Malacca YC closed down,nothing i can do now.
My best wishes always with you all.
~Good luck and take care~

My wife & I are GC members at Kepong. We love yoga very much because it have totally changed our lifestyle, mind & body to a more healty one. We wish to say thousand of big thanks to the teachers & staff who help to resume the classes. To TJ, I trust u! & continue to trust u! thanks for your assurance of taking care GC members. We definitely give you our moral support! Keep it up!

To:TJ
I js read the SinChew newspaper n find out ytd we got new management n u paid May’s salary oredi?
Im so sorry to tell u n everybody here,we “Best 16″ n others teachers neva receive any 1 cent from u?
Can u please js bank in to us ASAP?
And y u always talk more,do less?can change it to opposite?
We still waiting for our salary!thx

please think when u write on…this is karma and so if this company is urs what u will do….and hope….

TJ buying time, all YC member need to pay TJ mistake or plan… Golden Circle member later change to Goodbye Circle
Sori no people will take over the YC, never trust no people is so smart to take a losing money business

To:TJ
Is oredi after 8pm and we went to ATM ther check my acc…..sory!we stil cant c any amount inside!
We r stil waiting for our salary…
I dont wish ur “Best 16″ wil bcm “Best 15″ by 2ml,we hv our own plan k?
Wait for ur call n reply,thx!

what ever u have done,GOOD or BAD thinking ..it will be return to u one day…Karma..this is what i m believe..god bless u ….

i just came back from my yoga class and I really enjoyed the class by Dawid, he had not fully recovered from his sore throat but he displayed his professionalism in teaching.

To jess, i can confirm that there is no priority to anyone, i am a gc member and bought one V each yesterday and today, the class I wanted to attend was full on both day and today i waited for more than an hour for the next class, everybody is equal…and i have no complaint to wait…

Thanks LyDm, hope yz reopen in melaka soon. Share with you one osho site http://www.aoxiu.com/
You take care too.

Dear Angels,
Are you referring to TJ for your saying? My parents did also teach me, when you have made a mistake, apologize sincerely, others will still give you a chance to make it right.
PURPOSE? In fact, yes, whatever I am doing now is definitely for MONEY, the MONEY I can use to pay the employees. Where’s the root of the problem? Yes, it’s me, I am trying all the possible ways to repay, not to avoid/ escape. All the backlogs will be paid off by my share sells to others, the 99 campaign is just to ensure month of August is sustainable. AGONY? Do you mean the politician, press, medias involvement is my planning? I never ask for forgiveness, I just ask for a chance to make things right.
Why do I need to buy time if there’s no light in the end? I never delay any of the employees’ salary for the past 5 years ( you can check with the staff ), why do I need to “intentionally” doing this?
What do I achieved eventually? A cunning person will not be that dumb; A conman will not be here to be scolded/ attacked by all.
The business is viable or not, the next person will do a detailed study, no one will want to take over a losing money business, they are definitely smarter than you and me. There’s always ups and downs in life, I have to let everyone knows it’s definitely the lowest pointin my life right now, but a visit to Cheras Plaza just now, talking to the dedicated and cheerful staff made me believe further that whatever I do now is worthy.
I completely believe in NO CHEAT, NO HARM, i also believe that THE TRUTH WILL EVENTUALLY PREVAIL.
Dear tantan-tantan,
Yes, you should say goodbye to Golden Circle, as there’s no more Golden Circle package in the future. However, the current Golden Circle will enjoy this lifetime benefits.
That’s all.

TJ, save it and stop all your crap!! Enough is enough.

Uglykid,
You owe the YZ team an apology as you mentioned the medias will surely make TJ die and YZ closed down, you are wrong, medias are neutral about this incident. So, what’s your next prediction?

I dun owe YZ anything not even an apology! Seems like YZ is the one that owes me! My Salary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forget it same old story………it’ll be settled by the new management! Tired of hearing the same old story! Find something New to say la, TJhin Con Men. You lied throughout your stupid Interview with the Media! Dun be in a hurry…….just wait and see, your time will come.

Dear TJ,
Despite what has happened and what is going on right now, I still want to thank you coz if not for u,YZ would not have existed and I would not have discovered yoga,and most important I would not have found what I want to do for the rest of my life!I sincerely hope that YZ will live on.No one is perfect, everyone make mistakes and everyone deserve a 2nd chance to right their wrongs, therefore I wish u all the best and hope that u will somehow find a way to turn things around.

Dear Fei,
you still remember i’m a Osho’s books reader huh…i feel so warm,because of YZ,we are like one family.
Thanks a lot to you!!!
you give me the website in a right time,because today i’m daunt,feeling something wrong in my heart.
i sure will read all the article there.
thanks again to you.

Dear TJ,
I just attend class at Plaza Damas but as i know u still havent pay few teachers May’s salary…why?
And why TJ u keep on ignoring my message to u?im not try to argue v u just hope to know the answer only…am i wrong?

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 10:38 am #
TJ, till this stage you are still pointing fingers at others. Looks like you will never wake up and admit yr mistakes! I dun like saying this but whatever happens to you, you DESERVE it! I already knew all this is coming even before it happens. i already expected that the cheque YZ issued, gonna bounce! True enough it did! Stop all yr lies! No miracle neither anything is goin to change in a week’s time like what you mentioned by closing all YZ branches. To everyone that u have cheated before, teachers, friends, yr flings and etc……..we are actually havin the last laugh now! sorry all victims from YZ, but SERVE you right tomato HEAD.

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 10:48 am #
Stop all yr acting and rubbish comment in this blog! what you have said or mentioned in this blog is all crap! you are tryin to cover-up your greed and lies! there’re no buyer for yr troubled company! so stop lying like a KIIIDDDD!!! Besides owing all yr employees a lot of $$$, you still have a lot of debts to be settled! one of yr centre just got splashed allover with RED Paint yesterday. don’t think nobody knows bout it! Stop seeking for this or that person anymore………and putting the blame on them! you should be grateful til today you are still a free man and not in the lock-up as yet!!!!

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 11:02 am #
i don’t think you are able to laugh for days to come. OF-COURSE it wont be my last and there’ll be more to come by looking at what’s happening to you now! Next 6 months, hahahaha! what a joke! there’ll be no 6 months for you, Con -man! To Pissed, no one wants to buy this polluted name company. you think this Tomato HEAD don’t wanna sell it??? He’s broke! all the $$$ he conned since his teen days are gone and this is what i labeled as his Karma!

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 11:05 am #
Jess formula will only cleanse a normal human beings system but sad to say not yours! It’s too polluted and the only thing that will help to cleanse an animal like you is to put you in where you belong…….the JAIL!

uglykid on 30 July, 2008 at 10:49 am #
Dear TJ, stop all your Crap! you may seem calm when you are writing but dun expect all of us here to believe whatever that’s been written by you! yr own mother also came to office and told us bout your behavior at home. refuse to face your problems, showed temper by throwing things around! Don’t think you can fool us at least me! Am not stupid to take or listen anything that’s coming from you! Yr chinese name should have changed to TJHIN CON MAN!!!

uglykid on 30 July, 2008 at 10:49 am #
Dear TJ, stop all your Crap! you may seem calm when you are writing but dun expect all of us here to believe whatever that’s been written by you! yr own mother also came to office and told us bout your behavior at home. refuse to face your problems, showed temper by throwing things around! Don’t think you can fool us at least me! Am not stupid to take or listen anything that’s coming from you! Yr chinese name should have changed to TJHIN CON MAN!!!

uglykid on 30 July, 2008 at 11:08 am #
hey TJ you better stop sittin at home and get yr ass out of the chair and go to cheras now! The People from the press, NTV7 and DAP (Tan Kok Wai) are there now asking for the truth and answers! you are in deep shit! seems like the whole world will know bout it tonight!

You can hate YZ, but don’t hate YZ. Our classes are free for this week, please learn YOGA.

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 10:38 am #
TJ, till this stage you are still pointing fingers at others. Looks like you will never wake up and admit yr mistakes! I dun like saying this but whatever happens to you, you DESERVE it! I already knew all this is coming even before it happens. i already expected that the cheque YZ issued, gonna bounce! True enough it did! Stop all yr lies! No miracle neither anything is goin to change in a week’s time like what you mentioned by closing all YZ branches. To everyone that u have cheated before, teachers, friends, yr flings and etc……..we are actually havin the last laugh now! sorry all victims from YZ, but SERVE you right tomato HEAD.

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 10:48 am #
Stop all yr acting and rubbish comment in this blog! what you have said or mentioned in this blog is all crap! you are tryin to cover-up your greed and lies! there’re no buyer for yr troubled company! so stop lying like a KIIIDDDD!!! Besides owing all yr employees a lot of $$$, you still have a lot of debts to be settled! one of yr centre just got splashed allover with RED Paint yesterday. don’t think nobody knows bout it! Stop seeking for this or that person anymore………and putting the blame on them! you should be grateful til today you are still a free man and not in the lock-up as yet!!!!

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 11:02 am #
i don’t think you are able to laugh for days to come. OF-COURSE it wont be my last and there’ll be more to come by looking at what’s happening to you now! Next 6 months, hahahaha! what a joke! there’ll be no 6 months for you, Con -man! To Pissed, no one wants to buy this polluted name company. you think this Tomato HEAD don’t wanna sell it??? He’s broke! all the $$$ he conned since his teen days are gone and this is what i labeled as his Karma!

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 11:05 am #
Jess formula will only cleanse a normal human beings system but sad to say not yours! It’s too polluted and the only thing that will help to cleanse an animal like you is to put you in where you belong…….the JAIL!

uglykid on 30 July, 2008 at 10:49 am #
Dear TJ, stop all your Crap! you may seem calm when you are writing but dun expect all of us here to believe whatever that’s been written by you! yr own mother also came to office and told us bout your behavior at home. refuse to face your problems, showed temper by throwing things around! Don’t think you can fool us at least me! Am not stupid to take or listen anything that’s coming from you! Yr chinese name should have changed to TJHIN CON MAN!!!

uglykid on 30 July, 2008 at 10:49 am #
Dear TJ, stop all your Crap! you may seem calm when you are writing but dun expect all of us here to believe whatever that’s been written by you! yr own mother also came to office and told us bout your behavior at home. refuse to face your problems, showed temper by throwing things around! Don’t think you can fool us at least me! Am not stupid to take or listen anything that’s coming from you! Yr chinese name should have changed to TJHIN CON MAN!!!

uglykid on 30 July, 2008 at 11:08 am #
hey TJ you better stop sittin at home and get yr ass out of the chair and go to cheras now! The People from the press, NTV7 and DAP (Tan Kok Wai) are there now asking for the truth and answers! you are in deep shit! seems like the whole world will know bout it tonight!

You can hate TJ, but don’t hate YZ. Our classes are free for this week, please learn YOGA.

We bought another 99voucher, from YZ SP, from Jane. To me, i will just focus on the things that i think is right and worth doing. Although i don’t know whether YZ will survive at the end or not, at least we had tried to make things happen.

Dear TQ,
Sorry, I never meant to ignore your message. The involvement of medias had made the transition full of difficulties. The investors ( yet to be revealed ) holding back on the initial injection fund as they are suddenly getting a shock from the press coverage, hence, the transition have to be progressive and reasonable ( standing from the point of view of the investors, I can understand ) timeline to them, I never blame the medias nor the organizer of this, simply it brings me closer to the members and medias, at least they can see the picture clearer.
The injection of fund will only be in progressively, it will be throughout the whole month of August. I can understand how difficult the teachers’ situation are, I was the very first to teach in YZ ( I will be back to teaching when things settled, ), I completely understand the teachers’ feeling. Damage was done last week, which was beyond my control and out of expectation, however, as I told, I will fight till my last breathe. Things will be better, believe in believe.

why wednesday timetable not out yet for most of the outlet except klang and damas will there be classes at cheras nothing in the timetable someone answer me pls

Just sabarlah. Dun worry. Just get ready ur mat and headind to Cheras Plaza 4 morning class.

Dear founder

You said “I completely believe in NO CHEAT, NO HARM, i also believe that THE TRUTH WILL EVENTUALLY PREVAIL”, and you said “I never delay any of the employees’ salary for the past 5 years ( you can check with the staff ) “, perhaps you were being ignorant, teachers, staff’s salary were delayed since april 2008, thats why many of them went to labour office and protest in front of you, what is the crap you are talking about ? some of the staff who received post dated cheques as the salary, also bounced, supplier’s post date cheque was also bounced, you still dare to say above ? i just wondering what kind of brains you have ? i think must be your Egoistic character which born within you

Suprisingly you mentioned at sin chew jit poh that May debts are clear, again, someone really need to operate your brains to see what was inside…..

im a staff… n juz now juz have a chat with tj.. i juz wanna say this… pls trust TJ.. dun ask why.. he got his planning.. he is trying his best for making the company go well n save the company.. support him!! jia you!!

To TJ,

Quote “TJ on 5 August, 2008 at 2:52 am #

The new management will first take care of two thing, in no way they can nor acknowledging this:-
1. The existing benefits/ privilege of the membership remain unchange.
2. The priority to clear the salary up to date for all employees, both existing and resigned, and the dateline is by august.
I won’t reply on this two issues anymore.”

After the “new” management has taken care of the above 2 issues, would they proceed to solve other issues, e.g. refund of payment for YIN Yoga Level 2 TTC?
If yes, how do they propose to solve it? We prefer it to be cash refund.
If not, why?

Please reply either by leaving a comment here or email me at: yzowesmemoney@gmail.com
thanks.
ryan

Dear Jediknights,
Yoga Zone was founded@ 4th April 2003 as a sole proprietorship. Will a businessman wants to have all the cheques bounced and let you be the pofessor in Silent of the Lamb to operate his brain? Bu all today’s newspaper and compare all the news, Rose and Alice are MEMBERS’ COMMITTE SPOKSPERSON! Why was it reported as the NEW MANAGEMENT TEAM? Check this out, ?????????

Dear TJ,
thanks for ur reply,but u still havent answer my questions!
i read the news through internet like SinChew,Chinapress,Nanyang…u hav an announcement to media at yesterday and said u already clear the May’s salary to ur all staffs but why is still found out few teachers as i know they didnt receive yet?and i also read some of the comments like:
Best16?Last 16? on 5 August, 2008 at 7:48 pm #

To:TJ
I js read the SinChew newspaper n find out ytd we got new management n u paid May’s salary oredi?
Im so sorry to tell u n everybody here,we “Best 16? n others teachers neva receive any 1 cent from u?
Can u please js bank in to us ASAP?
And y u always talk more,do less?can change it to opposite?
We still waiting for our salary!thx

why?can u pls explain?thank u!

Dear all,

wed class in timetable now!!

Dear LyDm, sure i remember u, a person so full of love and caring. You make my jaw drop la, when you said you want to finish all the acticle. hehe..
I like ??, you must read it.

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Dear Uglykid,
Please stop this. I am neutral on this issue. Look at the issue not the person , please. If you are that unhappy, please meet TJ face to face and talk it out! If it is true there is new investor, all this is only slowing down the initial fund injection. If not, I lose 99 not 3k. However I still insist on transparency on the overall collection of the 99 to be paid to instructors and their allowances not backdated payments owed by ex YZ managment.

Dear Uglykid,
Please take a break. Are you solving the problem or you are trying to solve the person. Guess it is better to trash things out face to face. You get response online.

Dear YZ members,

Many teachers and YZ staff are going through their darkest hours at this very moment. Most of them that has left YZ must be having difficulty in finding a job in this economic climate. I guess for a lot of them, their spirits and confidence are both battered and broken.
After reading Ninie’s blog I feel that there is something that we can all do to help.
I have an idea that may assist the teachers and staff but it requires the compassion and generousity of all members.

#To YZ Management:

If there is any management staff that is reading this blog who was or is in charge of the teachers’ salary, I humbly appeal to you to publish all the YZ teachers’ Full Name, Bank Info and Bank Account number in this blog.(Pls be sure that the info is accurate)
You will have the information since you are responsible for crediting their salary into their account directly everymonth. This is probbaly the kindest thing that you can do for them now.

#To YZ Members:

If the list is successfully published by the YZ Management, I hope that all of you will find it in your heart to make a small contribution and deposit it directly into your favourite teachers bank account. If YZ have 20,000 members,even a RM10 contribution from everyone will help ease a lot of burden for all of them. Every dollar helps in these difficult times. (If you are depositing cash through ATM, be sure to check the name on the screen to make sure it is the right teacher)

#To YZ Teachers:

I do not know how much this will help but I pray that it will come in handy for those of you that needs it. Please accept it with grace because you all deserve the best because you have been wonderful and selfless.

Besides, there is something good that you all can do too. Please discuss among yourselves and set aside a small amount from the money that you have received and try to give it to the deserving front desk consultants and other staff that have not been paid.I know that it is pointless to actually publish the staffs’ bank info because most members might not remember their names at all so we have to do it through all of you.

#To everyone else:
Can someone help me translate this meassage to chinese and then spread it among all the members if possible.

Have follow this blog sometimes.
Is uglykid work under yogazone competitor now? it seem that want yogazone die, keep posting negative comment. Just like yogamind said, please talk to TJ. Things already happen, i hope yogazone can continue the business. Yogazone teacher and staff, you are the best. Shame on uglykid, even though u know yoga well, you are not worth to be a teacher.

Dear Fei,
when i say i want to read all the article there mean i haven’t login to the website.
just now i login,i was so surprise…!
this is too great for me!
just now i read “??”
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To Uglykid,
if u understand Chinese,please give urself a chance to login this website http://www.aoxiu.com ,it may help u a lot.don’t be too angry.calm down.

phew. its was a heart-broken day for me this afternoon, i was trying to explain and explain what ever we are trying to do and continue the business and while the member only got the word
“U consultants cheat me for my money!”
our beloved member, if we are intend to cheat you, do we need to still work here and struggle to pass this august, supporting and listen to your complain, ask for refund, angry and shoot what-ever vulgar words on us as you like until we are bowing down the head like a dog toward you ?

because we as staff care, we care what ever you pay, what you enjoy, and what you experiance everytime during class, and trying our best to give you the best services we could, do you think we should be treated like this ?

as i explained, and i would emphasize again in this blog here since alot of members are reading it, please understand that,

*we are trying our best to maintain and make YZ able to pass this situation
*we are considering ourself at your situation and we trying to understand what you feel after all thing happen
*we think, support and willing to get scold from you all because we are a part of staff, and we wiling to hear if we can make you say all your un-satisfaction
*as for refund, would u think you could get at least Rm100 from what you paid ? the answer is no, ask bankers around and see how the payment to company and installment are made!, even myself who doesnt know nothing had to ask all our banker members about this to get an answer for your(members) questions.coz we care!
*when you scold us, do we show you an angry face? do we say we are unsatisfy and you are not a part of us ?
*do you think your payment are the only 1 important ?
*we can just quit or stop helping, and let YZ closed down, why we are still here ? y we wanted to let you scold ? i can just leave and change my number, for what i wanted to had my face thickened, sell the voucher, as support for us staff and teachers ?
*do you care what and how hard teacher have to struggle to come and teach?
*are you sure you are very active and able to cover what you enjoy with what amount you pay ?(calculate, 1 class outside cost you 30 to 50, where YZ cost you 100+ per month unlimited, you can cover your payment even you joined class twice per week)
*please think on our side, do we enjoy this all? do we deserve this all ?
*we only need a support, meanwhile all the unconsiderable members, and those who loved to sabotage here, most likely are more to mind about their benefit, benefit and lastly benefit in their mind only.

so, do you all get what i am trying to say why we are still around ?(staffs & teachers)

because of a simple reason!

-We Want YZ to continue, its the member’s Heaven, Staffs Rice Bowl, Teacher’s Classroom and We Care what you can get from what you pay!-

i hope all the readers please think and change your bad attitude,as a positive and supportive being,

Do not Hate, Do not Demand,
Be Sincere to others,
where it will reflect how you are,
Be considerable,
chuck yourself in other people shoes,
Be Forgiveful,
mistake easily done,but forgiveness arent easy to receive,

as a staff, no matter how unhappy i am, i always giving you the best service if you are in my outlet.(for whoever know who i am now, you can see how i am concern on everything.)

Regards,
Namaste…

Dear Yoga Jess:

If YZ management agrees to lists the teachers’ bank acct information, can you transfer it to a new post? Too much noise here. Thanks.

Tj,
i’ve been following this blog for some times. My conclusion is u are buying time n twisting your words, trying to evade resposibilities. How can u blame the media n politician are the one who ruined YZ? Members are paying $ for the classes. With all the rumours flying around for months then suddenly centers close down for a week, members are definatly shocked. Is their rights to find out wat’s happening to the centers. Your statement ” tj n YZ is different entity is terribly disgusting!! From wat i understand from the staff n teachers, u didnt even pay for their EPF n bonus despite making huge profit from the enrollment. Is shameless on u who come out w the idea of asking the front desk staff to sell the $99 vouchers. They did nothing wrong for being the staff in YZ till they need to bend down so low to sell the vouchers. All the teachers n staff don deserve the donation kind of $ to live on. They are professional!! How can u treat your only asset in your biz to go thru this type of humiliation?? Pls pay wat ever owing to them. They have done enough of charity works to maintain the good standard of YZ. Base on trust they let u drag their salaries for 3 months.U are damn lucky to have such a good team but u abused them!!

Dear LangYungSern,
you are great!
you are powerful!
Don’t give up!
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Dear Jessica,
enough already la…pls

I just found this blog after my instructor mentioned it at class in Yoga Club Tmn Desa this evening. I want to commend the wonderful instructors who are selflessly still teaching and the staff who are still working… they’re doing a great job, and they do it with a smile and a poignantly positive attitude. Their professionalism in the face of uncertainty and adversity is truly admirable and, I hope, won’t go unrewarded.

For the sake of all the members, teachers and staff, I sincerely hope that Yoga Zone pulls through this difficult time and things will be back to normal soon.

I agree with what LangYungSern posted. Members should not direct their anger and frustration at the staff who are trying their best to serve you. It is truly despicable; these staff members do not deserve your abuse.

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Namaste everyone. This following comment might not have any relation to any of the above. I just want everyone to just divert away for a few moments from this intense situation and simply reflect or ponder on the little experience I have just 30 minutes ago.
I know its almost 2am in the morning and I was not able to sleep. I then decided that this is a really good opportunity to sit down and reflect in life. My life.
As it happens, I eventually found myself meditating. To what? I wasn’t sure. But one thing I got after that 15 minutes or so of meditation is this sense of space and lightness. An awareness to simply accept the abundance of life and the privilege of living. A fortune of having treasured friends and people who care for us.
When I think about it, I was actually just sitting there listening to whatever sounds that come and be still with my breath. It was amazing how this silence can change things. Our attitude, our way of thinking, our perception of life and the way we want to live it. Just imagine if we all can do this EVERY day, what joyful journey we would have towards life’s destination – Happiness.
My greatest thanks to ALL my true teachers – my students. Om Shanti.

I attended my first yoga class for the week last evening – am awed by the teachers’ commitment and perseverance despite the non-payment of their salary for the past few months and although YZ is on the brink of collapse. It is clear to me that to these teachers, teaching yoga is not a job; otherwise they wld have deserted YZ a long time ago! I will certainly continue to support YZ. However, I believe commitment from members, teachers and staff is not enough; hopefully the new investor/ management will emphatise with the teachers and staff and not prolong their suffering further but quickly pay them their long overdue salary.

To all YZ defectors and competitors scolding TJ and spreading the negative vibes and fanning the fire over the last 10 days – I feel sorry for you that you are not part of this wonderful organisation. TJ is broke now and we won’t be able to squeece any money out of scolding him; nor will YZ improve overnight. To all YZ members who are pestering for refunds – give YZ a bit more time to recover; enjoy the classes this week and really learn yoga from the great teachers. Given time, YZ will bounce back.

To: ALL MEMBERS

Hari Om,,

QUOTE from
Yoga Man 4th August, 11.26pm

Your idea to support the teachers on this column touched me.

May I suggest that :

To group all members together
To elect committees
To talk to management for transparency of account and teachers’salary payment
To get all members to bring out some money ( to be discussed)
To use the funds to payoff teachers and staff

This will help teachers and staff to go through this period at the same time we, as members will benefit too and yogazone will be ALIVE again!

YOGAZONE NEED A TUNE-UP, NOT AN OVERHAUL!

To YZ Management:

Please publish the affected teacher’s bank account info as soon as possible. Every second is important.

If you are reading this TJ, please do this one last favour for the members.

Yoga Man,
please dont do that,
you are insulting the teachers.
If I were they, i wont want the donation.

Harry,

It is not a donation. There is no insult intended. I just don’t see any other way that the members can do something for the teachers. I am suggesting it because I feel that most members want to help but cannot see any other way of doing it.

Please let me know if you are able to think up of something. We are always open to suggestions.

If the teachers do not need it. They can always pass it on to the staff. I know that some would appreciate it very much. If the staff don’t need it, they can always donate it to a good cause.

Dear Yoga Man,
I’m sure all the management staff and yoga teachers understand English,so i only help to translate the part for members.

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Dear All,

I appreciate Yoga Man’s suggestion is out of good intention, but we have to be mindful of the feeling of the teachers. We have to take care of their dignity and give them the due respect. Just buy the vouchers and this will go a long way to help the current situation YZ is going through. Let’s live in the present moment…I like Azmi’s posting this morning…let’s live our life meaningfully and learn to forgive. With Metta, thank you.

Wondering how come the teachers and staffs salary need to be donate in such way?

TY:

I am very mindful of the feelings of the teachers and the staff. I know what if feels like not to have any income for months and frankly it is not a feeling that I would wish upon anyone at all.

Please accept my apology if I have in anyway caused any form of discomfort among the teachers and staff.

Buying the RM99 vouchers may be a way to help but can any teachers and staff here vouch that the money collected actually went to them? If yes, then it is a good direction. If not, an alternative would be justifiable.

Apart from making it humiliating and demeaning for the teachers, publishing bank account information is a violation of the Bank’s Data Privacy Act, not to mention putting the account holder in security-risk.

Peace:

Thank you for sharing on the Bank’s Data Privacy Act. I guess we all have to continue to work on better ideas than the one I suggested then.

Dear All,

It is evidenced that there are so many kind people around us and we care…and there is hope…thank you.

BEST 16 become 15,now become 13.

Thanks to YOGAMAN. we are appreciate.

Suggest to make YZ a public company and invite all teachers to become shareholders (may be an option for teachers to convert salary in arrears to share capital and to share the YZ profit if any in future, for new investor to consider). This may make YZ even stronger, boost sence of belonging and confidence among members & attract more new members to join, as all yoga teachers are great yoga lover and they have strong spirit to give their best for the benefits of yoga learners, I trust.

HI KEPONG MEMBERS, SUPPORT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN KEPONG, ALL OUR TEACHERS NEED PETROL TO TRAVEL. PLS CONSIDER TO GROUP WITH YOUR FRIEND TO BUY ONE IF POSSIBLE.

So proud to see teachers like Matthew, Felix, Pari are back there. You all bring the warmth in this winter.
However, I am a regular student to Dennis and Chris too. Dennis/Chris, if you are following this blog, can leave your whereabout? Are you coming back?

I’ll buy a voucher today, and the 2nd week of the month, n the 3rd week, n the 4th week. My dear all teachers please don’t leave us.

The instructor can organise a workshop, if the existing members who want to show the support and interested they can join the 1/2 or 1 day workshop. This might help to generate some income.

-Metta-

Dear Taman Desa Members,
Pls support Taman Desa!There is lack of staff and they need all ur support!Just try try ur best to help them survive!Thank u!

Dear Taman Desa’s Rumormongers,
Pls stop all of ur bad mouth at there!Even in studio when practising yoga i still hear yours this 3 days morning…PLS STOP IT OK?
If u no interest to support just keep quiet and come to attend class,no need come to spread rumours and “crow over”!
U all knew who u r i talking about!Pls Take care!!

Dear LadyAbsinthe on 6 August, 2008 at 1:03 am #,
Thanks for ur support and u r in my team!
Both of us support them til the end ok?
Thank you very much!

I feel so touching to read those who given support to YZ!!

To LangYungSern, thank you very much for your responsibility, caring, understanding..! Ya, dont give up, ok !! You did your best

To teacher: Azmi, Angie, Ken, I learnt alot of your lessons, you’re a great teacher.Thank you! Hope to see you soon…

Thank you for all the teacher, consultant, front desk, cleaner who are still together with YZ and continuing provide their service!
Sometime I worry did you all eat, live well or not? I do hope you’re all eat well, live well…

Well, we dont know what will happen tomorrow, even next second, minute or hour, so we must be proud, optimistic and cheerful ya.. we vote for better tomorrow..

I’m a member of YZ The Weld who has supported the RM99 voucher campaign.

To All Dear Members of YZ The Weld :
Quite sure by now you are aware of the situation that YZ is caught into or at least have some ideas of the problems / predicament faced by the teachers and the staff.

It was a great relief and indeed a very good news to us that the classes have resumed since this Monday (4/8/2008). THIS MIGHT NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF NOT BECAUSE OF THE FIRM COMMITMENT, DEDICATION & HARD WORK OF OUR DEAR TEACHERS & STAFF !!! A BIG APLAUSE and our SALUTATION TO THEM FOR THEIR GOOD SPIRIT !!!

While many of us are feeling so uncertain about the fate / future of YZ, we should be GRATEFUL that all these teachers and staff are determined enough to put their heart and soul together in order to keep the show going for us during this critical period, WITHOUT ABANDONING THE SHIP while the Management Team are still struggling to find the solutions !!! (though these are considered their duties / responsibilities under normal circumstances which we have taken for granted all this while). So impressed by their STRONG BELIEF that they have to do this to help YZ pull through the battle to create a WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR ALL !!!

What do we members want ULTIMATELY ???
YZ THE WELD (which is like a 2nd home to many of us now) WILL CONTINUE THE BUSINESS AS USUAL FOR AS LONG AS WE WISH !!! OH YES, FOR AS LONG AS WE WISH !! AND WE WANT THE SHIP TO STAY AFLOAT !!!

NOW, LET US MEMBERS UNITE TOGETHER AND JOIN THE BANDWAGON TO ACHIEVE THIS OBJECTIVE :

· For those who can afford and who are willing to do so, please give your FULL SUPPORT to the RM99 voucher campaign AS OUR TOKEN OF APPRECIATION FOR THE GREAT EFFORTS OF THE DEAR TEACHERS AND STAFF WHO ARE STILL HOLDING ON FOR US !!! THEY DESERVE OUR SUPPORT !!! Let’s show that WE CARE FOR THEM TOO !!!

Until today, quite disheartening to see that the response of members from YZ The Weld to the campaign is still very poor / lukewarm.

COME ON, LET’S CHIP IN AND HELP TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN WHILE WE STILL CAN DO SO !!!

· For those who are unable to support the RM99 voucher campaign (for any specific reasons), please help to promote the campaign to other members and get their support ASAP.

Every single contribution from you (be it spiritually or materially) counts and is very much needed now.

`UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL’

Today (6th, August), The Star news
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/8/6/nation/22002120&sec=nation

http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/76973?tid=1

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I hv check the infor myself from the front desk abt the RM99 voucher. I hv no comment. Coz it’s something depends on the individual.

However, I do know members are only want their classes back, and some even expect their favourite teachers go back to teach.

Somehow, the employer are upseting these teachers again and again who out thr waiting for the promise to be fulfiled.

I see thr are ppl asking question on the blog abt their pays. But no answer given.

I guess the answer will only be given or ppl will just stop asking it again until they are ‘ACTUALLY’ settled.

Haizzz…. =.=”

JJ,
Don’t worry, I just did a quick re-count, there are actually Best 24 now. If what posted in Sin Chew is correct, we should be able to see YZ back on track Sept onwards. In fact, I don’t know how yoga lovers like you all out there felt these few days after the classes resumed ( although not in full force yet), but for me, I never felt so ‘yoga’ before….Let’s keep this good force growing!

Knowing that the foreign teachers have the transport problem travelling here and there (Yoga zone branches), as there is no more driver to fetch them. FD/teachers can help to post the time that the teachers need to travel, im sure some of the students willing to help. See, Not easy to get taxi all the time, as u all know public transport of KL are too “great”.
Besides the best 16 or more, anyone know how many f/desk are still coming to work? we shall not forget them!!

flyingtoyoga, yes the members would love to help out. Also another thought, maybe the teachers might want to consider staying @ 1 yoga branch a day hence cutting the traveling expenses. Then members who go to the morning classes can pick up the teachers, and those going for the last class can send the teachers home after that.

anyone can answer me?
can i use my malacca YC member card to join yoga classes at Tmn.Desa outlet?

LyDm, perhaps TJ is the best person to answer.

I just read the info from sinchew, feel really angry. What meas by,??????????Pls bring out the proofs, I know some of the re-sign teacher is not ye getting their salary for May.??????????????????????????????YZ.
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If paid to 10-15 teachers, means clear all, may be he is right.

i hope Tj can read my question here.

MY DEAR MR.TJHIN ????
answer my question,pleaseeeeee……!

Thanks Jacq,enjoyed your hatha 1 class at tmn desa this evening,u were great!

thu timetable just released. check it out, members.

LyDm no point all YC akan tutup TJ cakap kosong news siar tapi tak ada follow up TJ ada plan tapi dia pun tak tahu how to do

what is Best 16, i have checked the monday timetable, they were 21 teachers teaching on monday, so who r the other 5 teachers, they r not the best? all the members, please dont forget that who r the teachers do the replacement classes during ‘tsunami’ in yoga zone? is all our new teachers n foreign teachers. till now you still can see their name in the time table. i just hope all the members can appreciate their efford too. and i also miss my teacher darren, and many more…

KINDNESS,
One from me for the RM99 at YZ TW.

this evening i attend Alan class, it was great. Thank you Alan. he really makes his full spirit + energy to teach us. if Alan open his own, i will be the first one to support him.

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Just wanna say somethings for those teachers that not in the “Best 16″ as per mentioned. Some of the teachers have get their full salary for May but not for all the teachers. Hence, we couldn’t forget them and deny their efforts in June and July to keep on giving class even though they are not in the “Best 16″. I’m sure they will come back soon once the salary for May being paid.

I really enjoyed yoga class in YC Cheras tis evening. Hope tat YZ will slowly revive.

Dear all, i am an ex staff of Yoga Zone. i too was caught in this messy tangled web. i’ve been following this blog for a while, it amazing how and what happened to the poeple of YZ. Some of the staff, to be honest from my point of view, some of them who held positions really screwed things up. they didn’t know what the hell they were doing, but they were good to cover it up(and i’ve seen them cover it up)………but due to office politics (which all working poeple go through) i just decided to keep it to myself. and with all this crap going on some of the innocent ones were caught in the war and faced the devestation. There are so many things that i can tell u all. it won’t make any difference now. But trust me, those who work in the clubs (i.e. club managers, consultants, front liners n even the teachers) are the ones who always get hit the most, they are always the ones who are being burnt alive and being shot……. but they are just doing what is been told, as all employee’s do. So guys don’t shot those who are trying to make a living. i’ve seen some bad shape customer and they don’t play nice……..

so give them a break……… trust me, try putting yourselves in their shoes….

At the end of her class on Wed evening, Cindy called on members to buy the RM99 vouchers. She said she does not know how long the teachers can sustain this way. She said some teachers got evicted from their rented premises. It makes me sad. Read Ninie’s blog just now – she said she has not gotten her salary since May 2008. She too, does not know how long she can continue. My heart aches for all of them. It’s a great idea for us members to chip in and buy the RM99 vouchers; but is the new management using this as an excuse for sitting back and not paying the teachers now? Why isn’t the new management showing their commitment too? Why is the handover taking so long?

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This is my official declaration:
I NEVER MENTION THE TEACHERS’ MAY SALARY WAS CLEARED, I WILL CAKL TO THR PRESS THAT MISREPORTED THIS, INCLUDED THE STAR AND SIN CHEW.
8TV NEWS ACTUALLY RECORDED MY DIRECT SPEECH DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND WAS BROADCASTED AT NEWS TIME, I MENTIONED ‘WILL BE SETTLED’, NOT HAD SETTLED’
I will call to the medias to clarify this as per promise to the 6 employees during this afternoon meeting. Will ask them to clarify through press if possible.

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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/8/6/nation/22002120&sec=nation

“We have 35 instructors but I need to clarity that none of them has left us. The other 15 said they would be back once they received their salary,” he said, adding that salary for the month of May has been paid.”

http://search.sinchew-i.com/node/182767?k=yoga%20zone

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P/S:I come for peace.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/8/6/nation/22002120&sec=nation

“We have 35 instructors but I need to clarity that none of them has left us. The other 15 said they would be back once they received their salary,” he said, adding that salary for the month of May has been paid.”

http://search.sinchew-i.com/node/182767?k=yoga%20zone

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P/S:I come for peace.Thank you.

totally support wnat lyDM said…
no point to pin point any1 now

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Dear All, was thinking of giving suggestion of not to schedule any class for tomorrow evening. Remember, it’s 8/8/08 Beijing Olympic opening. This not only allow our beloved yoga teachers to get a break after 4 1/2 days of hard work, also they or all of us able to sit down and enjoy the opening ceremony. Any objections ? TQ. ( thanks Jess for allowing us to speak here. Appreciated ! )

i badly need my yoga session. The class is very limited nowadays, pls dont cancel any class scheduled for thursday. PLEASE.

Alan should sell coupon b’cause TJ is a creator of YC M’cca problem…TJ forget the problem he create for us…How can u do these to M’ccan not so nice…Please never forget about it during the press conference…You old M’cca YC member an answer…cause you took our money TJ…We should stand by Alan to sell coupon, comon M’cca we’re left behind money can’t gaurantee our health yoga can help us be healthy

all, im a new user here. I am a yogazone member too. I just recently signed up the lifetime membership. I strongly DISAGREE with those who urged us to buy the RM99 voucher. It is not the matter of money, but i dont see a point of doing it so. If any of you want to do charity, you are most welcome to donate the RM99 to the old folks home/ orphange home which shall need your money and generosity more. The management is responsible to keep the class going, not the members who have already paid few grands. If the management failed to do so, let the place closed down.(It will closed down, sooner or later) We wouldnt want to get more involved than ever, after forking out so much money for the membership. And what makes you all to think that there will be a new management taking over, considering the current management owing the staffs so much money? adding to that, the new management have to maintain the membership current status and let us continue using our pass. Do you seriously think there will be someone out there who are so stupid? Please do not feel offended to any of my opinion. IT IS THE TRUTH. UGLY TRUTH.

My Dear TJ,

Thank you for replying my message and yes any conman with bad intention would not stick around to answer and being bombarded from left to right but i am definitely sure that every problem has it solutions and nothing cannot be done or solved if a person has a will to do so. I do trust and believe in you cos every human kind deserves to be forgiven and given a second chance no matter what. My parents said if i fail or fall its ok but making it right and getting your feet back is the most important thing…no one can do it but you Yourself with COURAGE, STRENGTH and FAITH to do it ..”you have your team to support you in fact”.
OF COURSE EVERY SINGLE HUMAN KIND DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE IF THEY MEAN WHAT THEY SAY AND BE A DOER OF WHAT THEY’VE SAID OR SUPPOSE TO DO….ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS AND I BELEIVE ALL YOUR STAFF AND TEACHERS ARE PRACTICING THAT BUT WHAT ABOUT YOU?????

My Dearest TJ,

From the bottom of my heart, i am not going against you but i do love you cos without TJ there is no YOGAZONE and MY LIFE would not be as
great as NOW…I LOVE MY “YOGAZONE HOME” TRULY AND ENDLESSLY…..YOU ARE
THE FATHER AND TEACHERS ARE THE MOTHER,
WE ARE ALL YOUR CHILDREN SO PLS DONT
BREAK US UP AND DESTROY THIS FAMILY YOU
HAVE BUILD. MONEY IS NOT EVERYTHING BUT I DO KNOW PEOPLE DESERVED TO BE PAID AND
BE RESPECTED FOR WHAT THEY’VE DONE…..
i’ve been thru months without pay and job and i truly understand how it feels to live my life without food and hope.

mclady,
don’t believe rumours.try to find the truth by using ur eyes and ur mind,not only ur ears.
no point to pin point any1 here.

To angels,
u make me drop my tears…

Dear Iisa. I just wonder how you came to your conclusion in capital letters. Obviously you entitled to your opinion but that purely your opinion that we must respect. I believed many of us apart of buying the RM99 V, are doing a lot of charity works and helping others. I was sharing with a friend recently, looking at the responses from the members I think this industry has good prospect and if I have the money, I will consider buying over the company. I am sure there are smart people around to see the opportunity…again this is my personal opinion…

LyDm you should’ve M’cca spirit if you’re not a M’ccan can you trust TJ?

can i use my malacca YC member card to join yoga classes at Tmn.Desa outlet?
remember you’re desprate for it…Why not re-open M’cca YC… Comom wake my dear…

mclady,
i’m not desperate for it.i ask the question because maybe i will go to KL during this month.
i have malacca spirit.Yoga Club is my 2nd home.before it i went there everyday.my heart very pain when the place close down.but please be patient,i still waiting,give him more time,he need time.
no point to compel him,u will get nothing.

LyDm yes you’re a great M’cca…I love to see M’cca spirit in you…
TJ where is you’re answer?…M’cca is waiting, we like to here you’re excuse…Can u predict when is YC last day Mr.TJ u create it and u destroy it…

Who create the yoga anxienty?
complaint, pinpoint without concrete idea for solution!
Who can bring the latent structure to consciousness?
There is no union of teachers and members b4. Yoga anxienty already started in the zone.
Idealism mind create the abstract
structure that nobody can solve.
If those are climbed the Mt KK, the highest mountain in Asia, no body will dare to invest the fitness there as the biggest in Asia.
As yoga teachers in YZ b4, can earn good salary compare to school teachers. Schools are shortage of teacher, why dun go and apply as temporary teacher. after teaching for 3 months, will get salary.

oh boy? What drama? ? who is true who is not????very interesting yet very confusing and traumatising to some. Everyone will know what the truth is next month. Do not need to speculate and cause yourself unnecessary emotional turmoil. Of corse i rather hope what TJ’s statements is the truth. We shall see the unfolding of truth. It will not be long. Just be patient. All the best to YZ and all members including myself

The RM99 voucher is not helping the teachers or staff. We are indirectly helping shareholders/director especially TJHin to cheat our money again. With a membership of about 20,000 coupled with upfront payments, there is no way the group can fail if not due to mismanagement & fraudulent practices. Just prior to this problem, their marketing staff is still asking members to convert to life membership telling members that the group is going for listing on the KLSE. We should address the root problem i.e the board of directors especially TjHin. We should make sure that he cannot leave the country until the problems are resolved. Firstly, staff should report to EPF(I am sure EPF not paid) and make sure they are not allow to leave the country. Secondly, members should make a police report with the Commercial Crime to also restrict their travelling overseas.
Instead of asking members to contribute further(of which we have already paid upfront) TjHin should first sell all his luxury cars or houses plus terminating services of bodyguards and use the proceeds to rescue the group. I am sure most members will not hesitate to help the teachers, which is the only reason members decided to renew their membership and get cheated by the directors as a result.

Hmmm… I don think an official declaration should be make here.

Hope to see u-TJ on the press to clarify your words soon. I mean ’soon’ is really ‘SOON’-this 2 days perhaps?

I think everyone deserve to know the truth.

Tell the truth, nothing but the truth.

Whatever it is… just say it.

there is a phase in chinese-’liu de qing san zai, na pa wu chai shao’.

U will be upsetting (already u hv) but not an end yet.

Solution, Mt KK is not the highest mountain in Asia, its Mt Everest (in Nepal). Mt KK is the highest mountain in Southeast Asia only.
Anyway, you are right – no union was established and now the teachers & also member are left in this brink of YZG’s mismanagement.
Well, we will have learn from this and better secure/protect ourselves in future.

RM99 put in a box, really like donation, pity on teachers,whose idea? still work a little. Will the box’s money run away by staff???
How YZ to sustain for next month? If the system temporary still in interuption, no teacher. That is only members’ money can resume all the classes and teachers, if RM10 pay directly to the teacher voluntary after the class. Good teachers, will earn more, will be a fair. System will continue work.

Dear Lydm, since you said you love yoga too much, why not you temporary attend Alan’s free class.

many ppl attend that free classes???

KH.. I agree with what you comment.. Is true. But he will really listen give up luxury life? lolz

This few days went different outlets to teach,I knew the 99 campaign not really favourable to the members but all the staffs were try their best to sell,Good Job Everyone!We stared with each other,tear was rotate in our eyepit,they told me seriously really have no idea what they doing now,wish to give up and quit but worry salary will not in to them…
i)No news from new management but members keep asking all the while.
ii)No news from TJ you every staffs just get the info from newspaper and yogajess’s blog.(If no internet then how?)
iii)No proper memo or instructions from old management even though call them to ask the answer forever is “Don’t Know?ask Marcus.”(shame on it)
iv)Feel stress from teachers and Marcus if 99 campaign sell not good.
v)No schedule all the while though members knew but still need to get scold from them.
vi)Have no idea to the refund case,
even though members cut the news from newspaper but no instructions from the old management.
vii)May,Jun and July’s salary still haven’t get yet but no dare to ask family or friends imburse.(car no petrol,always eat bread,can’t pay the rental…etc)
viii)Everybody feel like death struggle.
viiii)Everybody feel like self-deceive and deceive others.
x)Mentally of everybody was tighten and near breakdown.
TJ,can you just please do something helpfull?The whole company’s staffs still waiting for your answer not let you drag on our time,Thank You.

Can anyone tell me where is the Alan class in Melaka ? I passed by there the yoga close already

Hi Dawid, my friend is using the RM99 voucher to attend your 7am class at Kepong today. Her comment is “GREAT”. She enjoy so much. Thank you Dawid for your hardwork.

Mlk pratictioner ,
thanks for ur advice.

to lisa,
yes the truth is ugly, but if you are not supporting us, please do brain-wash other member who are willing to help us to gamble through this hard situation.
do you expect us to be closed down one day because no teacher to teach, no front liners to open door, no cleaners to clean the room ?
please use your matured thinking to consider the advantage and disadvantage before u say something, we are struggling hard to satisfy you make what you pay worth it, even if we put more teacher to teach, how much class you could attend after evening ?MAX 2 class only, so dun cause whatever complain not enuf class to attend( this is what pissing me off)
To all members,
yes the class is less now, maybe some clubs classes are more full compare to the zone’s class, but we are trying to make it done, the more we could get support from the members, dont you think some teacher are willing to come back and teach if their expenses per day are roughly covered by the voucher you all bought during end of the day ?
You could make us get better, and we appretiate it, for members who are complaining alot, yes you can shoot on us the front liner’s ear, but dun brain wash other member and pull them to enter your negative zone!
To Lydm,
i dont have the approval to say this, but since melacca is closed down, your membership should be able to use at kl outlet, as a compensation for what happen in melacca, if not, come my outlet, i will definetely give you to enter the classes.
To Chin,
yes i agree with you, but if you survey to all outlets, my outlet is the worst,the front liner have to lick and clean the mess for the Greedy consultant job, while whatever member complain or even straight foward to come find her face to face, being turn-down because the consultant and manager dun want to see them under a reason, busy…
i’ve been shoot hard during last week for no class, and until yesterday, so much complain from con them to sign GC, take the bali retreat, new members and refund payment because credit card was swipe wrong, and you know what the 3 head in my outlet is doing ? say i am busy and call them to left their number so i contact later, and at the end of day they are not even calling one of them.
and thx for it i will be scold again tomorrow, arent this is so sweet how the heads in my outlet treat us the front liners ?(walk first, die first, as long we behind are safe)this is what they do to themself.
To Teachers,
i dun care its best 13, 15,16, or 21…
as long for all still teacching teachers, i salute you for your professionality and you heart toward supporting YZ, us the front liners and toward the members, thx for still being with us even we are at this situation, i am so happy to see each teacher coming to teach(and not complaining), while the member enjoy, do you teacher feel fun for the full class everyday you teach ? isit far more better den teaching onli 3 or 4 student during your last class ?

Anyway, thats all for now, for member who noes me, call me if any trouble happen, gladly help you if i could(been attending calls from morning to night for schedules everyday)

Regards,
Namaste

Dear V.V, Alan’s free class is locate at the same old premises of YC. the timetable has hang outside the shop.

Hi TJ, just let everybody know is the injection of fund already progressively made to the company or still on hold. Would appreciate to get your reply on this matter.

Im a GC member. I would like to make a suggestion. To have additional classes at 10.30am especially in Plaza Damas as its not possible for some of us start our yoga be4 8am as we have school going children. Thus, especially the housewives like me can go to a 9.30am and a 10.30am class to make it worth going all the way esp with high petrol price.Also, I will definitely support the RM99 voucher so that YZ can continue running at least for the month of Aug. If its not too much to ask, is it possible for Ken to continue the 9.30am X-Pilates on Saturdays in Plaza Damas?

I wanted to share a story here.
One morning, there was a morning class canceled here in YC due to no teacher available, one member came in and wanted to join that particular hour class, i was the only one who was in the outlet. When i saw member walked into the outlet and i knew there wont be a class going on, i can say i was ready and well prepared to be scolded by member. Yes! It happened exactly. So What i could do is just keep saying sorry. But suddenly, another lady suddenly came over (where she was sitting there and reading newspaper at that time), she says to that angry member ” Don’t be so angry, if there is no class for you, then you come back and join the evening one, if evening you can;t, you can come and join tomorrow morning class. Don’t scold the staff here, she also working for people. Dont be angry, not good for your health. We just have to live happily. ”
The angry member turn around to me, and she says” im not scolding, and she sounds sorry”. The kind lady after that went into the changing room and talked to the cleaners inside, and told them they did the job well, the club is so clean.
This lady then came to the front desk counter again and said ” Hopefully this YZ can sustain and remain, i just enjoy to be here. I have a heart disease, i’m now waiting for medical report to be out. I put all my money to my medical fees, and the rest, i buy membership here, just want to enjoy my life”
I just feel so touching. Thank you, auntie Loke.

To May
we all cheras member have school going children too most of us are housewife we all like to attend classes between 7-9 30am just have to wake up little bit early for yr infor i stay near kajang my 3 children go to 3 diff school in KL but i manage to attend 8 am and 9 30am classes in cheras branch every morning just plan yr time at this difficult time.

Hi frontdesk,

Your story is so touching and hope all the members can behave and control the emotion like Auntie Loke (the kind lady).

We all here know who is the one caused all these difficulties and problems at YZ, definitely NOT the teachers/staffs. They are the victims like us members as well or I can say even worse than us. We only lost few thousands $$ of membership fees but they lost 3 months salries (in term of $$ could be more than us especially teachers), a job and self-esteem (urge and hard selling the RM99 vouchers) and also mentally stressed with the hope TJ really pay his promise (but so far Empty Promises).

So, really hope and urge everyone be nice, appreciate and should respect those teachers and even the frondesk or cleaners that still stay with YZ. No point to scold them as this is not their fault and it won’t solve the problem. I could say we hardly find this kind of committed staffs in this corporate world nowadays. TJ really lucky have them all with him!

Thank you Auntie Loke being so nice and kind understanding. You are real yogis…

LangYungSern,
where is ur outlet?

The frontliners at The Weld outlet are also ever so couteous, smiling & helpful despite under stress. All should embrace the future of YZ with Love, Hope & Positive Vibrations. Positive Mass Consciouness is very important to turnaround bad/hopeless situation. There can be miracles if we adopt an optimistic mindset & attitude!

I agreed with KH. There is limit for everyone to help…if TJ still hiding the truth..later everyone will felt cheated. To Lang, FYI, Cheras YC has the same classes like any YZ in the last few days. Infect, today Cheras YC have reduced the pm classes to only 2classes conduct by Pari, whereas most other outlets still hv 4classes in the pm. I heard Cheras YC sold the most RM99vouchers coz Cheras has the highest number of members. Anyone have info on how many RM99vouchers sold? I suggest the management let those who bought the RM99voucher to contra it when their membership matured even if YZG taken over by new management. This RM99 shd consider an advance fr the members.Management must appreciate those supporting members and reward them accordingly IF the YZG continuess….as a GC member I am praying very hard for it…

TO KH on 7 August, 2008 at 11:26 am #

I STRONGLY AGREED WITH YOUR COMMENTS HERE. TO PROTECT THE STAFFS, TEACHERS AND OUR MEMBERS BENEFIT, WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT HE CANNOT LEAVE THE COUNTRY UNTIL THE PROBLEMS ARE RESOLVED. IF EITHER BY REPORTING THESE WITH THE COMMERCIAL CRIME TO RESTRICT THEIR TRAVELLING OVERSEAS. I THINK DURING THIS ONE MONTH PERIOD NOW, HE MIGHT SELL THIS PROPERTIES AND CARS, AND TRANSFFERING THE MONEY TO OVERSEAS, MAYBE HIS HOMETOWN IN BANDUNG, INDONESIA AS WHAT HE SAID IN THE NEWSPAPER.

The RM99 voucher is not helping the teachers or staff. We are indirectly helping shareholders/director especially TJHin to cheat our money again. With a membership of about 20,000 coupled with upfront payments, there is no way the group can fail if not due to mismanagement & fraudulent practices. Just prior to this problem, their marketing staff is still asking members to convert to life membership telling members that the group is going for listing on the KLSE. We should address the root problem i.e the board of directors especially TjHin. We should make sure that he cannot leave the country until the problems are resolved. Firstly, staff should report to EPF(I am sure EPF not paid) and make sure they are not allow to leave the country. Secondly, members should make a police report with the Commercial Crime to also restrict their travelling overseas.
Instead of asking members to contribute further(of which we have already paid upfront) TjHin should first sell all his luxury cars or houses plus terminating services of bodyguards and use the proceeds to rescue the group. I am sure most members will not hesitate to help the teachers, which is the only reason members decided to renew their membership and get cheated by the directors as a result.

I am a member with YZ Weld and went for a class on Tuesday. Noticed no more towels provided but there are like 3 front desk ppl and 3 cleaners. Do we really need so many ppl? Since already no money might as well just have less staff, isnt it? This are my personal opinions:

1. The yoga teachers were paid alot like at least 3-4K per mth in the good old days. Thats more than most of the customers make. Did they not save any money during the good days? All of us have suffered retrenchment or termination or even similar problem as YZ but we just made the necessary complaints to Labor/EPF Dept and found other jobs or temporary ones even at less pay. The chinese have a saying, “horse die, come down and walk!”. I feel the instructors seem to want to milk sympathy to support their still extravagant lifestyles. They can afford to go posh events, dressed to the nines, drive around in their big cars, shopping in Spore….!!? Yet they say no money to pay rental/food???? Please give me a break!!
2. On the 99prog, how is it being distributed? Equally to all staff and instructors in all outlets or only each outlet responsible for their own?I do not mind this as the voucher is free flow but alternative is maybe contribute voluntarily into box for every class you attend. More practical as we do not know if or whether the YZ will be closed the next day.
3. Obviously TJ used up all the funds for expansion and paying good salaries/benefits to himself and his bf and gf so lack of good management. Now he should own up and tell us honestly if he has any investor.
4. Honestly i have checked around, and most ppl/investors would not buy over the liabilities of a sunken ship. They would rather take over the premises after you “bungkus” and start afresh without any liabilities. Sorry the truth may hurt but i think in this times of inflation, who are we kidding to think there may be a white knight to save YZ from all their debts??!. If there is, it would be a miracle. If at all, any other new yoga establishment takes over the premises, then hopefully, they may offer a special promo for all existing YZ members as a gesture of goodwill.

My comment is not meant to hurt anyone in particular, it is just being practical and accept reality so that in case the worse happens, we (whether the staff/instructors or members) are prepared for it.

yeS I TOTALY AGREED WITH WORRIES.

No doubt on KH, tiger, worries and Mlk practitioner’s comments. KH really See, Watch, Observe, ANALYZE carefully and then Conclude here now.

TJ should sell all his properties first on this emergency case to settle all the outstanding salaries before members come into picture on this RM99 vouchers. Otherwise, this voucher is meaningless and not helping the teachers/staffs ultimately but the old/new management…

Hi,all members lets support Yoga zone together.We all need Yoga zone.No worries for future!!!:)

i wonder where all the members fees has gone? Total 14,000.00 members has paid make the full payment, where is the money now????

i wonder where all the members fees has gone? Total 14,000.00 members has make the full payment, where is the money now????

I dont intend to/not to brain wash anyone here. Whoever telling us to help the teachers/ Yogazone/ Staff = the immature person. Please think – if we are helping them just so that we get our classes back, then we might as well get it from somewhere else – which is far more reliable, safe, responsible & above all trustworthy. Too bad you still failed to learn your lesson.

I just feel that whatever you guys are doing, cannot hide the fact that Yogazone has failed us in every way. It’s the realistic world out there, when it comes to $$ missing, nobody will take the blame. Why would you think the Yogazone staff persistingly selling us the renewal/lifetime membership, right before the crisis surfaces? Im positively sure it has all been planned before hand, by who, god knows.

I have only this to say to all the Yogazone member out there and I am not sorry to say it out loud :
1) attend & enjoy the class while you can, while the Yogazone is still opened.
2) Do not invest any more of your hard earned money to Yogazone.
3) There are tons of Yoga classes offered by others out there, namely: Fitness First/ California Fitness (which is owned by bigger org, with international trustworthy identity – at least they wont just come up with $$ mismanagement issues like Yogazone did). Other than this two, there are also plenty of Yoga centre with cheaper , although fewer classes.
4) Go ahead and do something meaningful rather than just sulking up or scolding people here or posting questions to TJ here. (put yourself in his shoes, will you care anymore?) There is nothing we can do to help the situation, unless you are from big corp, whom intend to take over and restructure Yogazone.

Help yourself to get over it by telling yourself, there is always karma and the what goes around comes around.

Hi there, I was just thinking whether at the moment are the classes still on? At first I was thinking to join YZ but now I have to re-considered because of the news and what about others classes like Pilates and etc.. Are they any teachers teaching that or only Yoga at the moment?

Dear Iisa,
I think u hav been practising your habitual negative beliefs in lack and seeing the world negatively.I suppose u always U get what u believe.
Everyone is talking about karma but in actual fact noone really understand what karma is. Then if your $$$ is cheated as u claimed it so u must have done something previously to get into this. Only enlightened beings know what is karma and how it operates.
I think i should stop talking as Lao Tzu said: “Those who speak don know, those who know don speak”
For whatever reason,IT always feels better to uplift people than to pull people down.

Iisa,
u must be come from next-door yoga/fitness centre!!!!!
stop annoy here!!!!!

timetable out early today, members, go to check the classes now.

Dear Iisa, I think is ok for everyone to voice out here but mind their language, no make up stories, dont accuse anyone, n be polite. I suppose most of us here are victims n just want to share during this crisis. Everyone is trying to find a solution. Hopefully the management hear our voice n feel guity about it….I am sure ther are some members already seeking legal advice…there got to be some justice there!!!

BTW,Iisa, are u YZ/YC member? U dont feel how we all feel……….???

Iisa……if u really not interested and dun wan to join yogazone anymore..
just go…..

Iisa saya support sama lu lah
teachers u’re facing a crisis, every of us like u much, why don’t u guys gang up n open own center
all YC member tentu sokong sama u orang ma n we can forget about YC n new place to lepak lah
u orang semua ada bagi idea tapi TJ sudah lari o

karma will return to all the person who’s writen here….wish will come true..one day to u ….believe it….

Dear Yen, FYI, a salary of 3-4k is not much if u live in KL. U cant blame the teachers for not saving $$$. Some may have commitment to their families, some hv invested their income back to YZG to attend further TTC/yoga workshops.Is none of our business weather they have saving or not BUT it is definately the employer’s fault when employees do not get their salary on time. They need to pay their bills on time also! The teachers who r surviving are either staying with their parents/husband hv primary income/teach as hobby/hv other job/investment….So are the staffs…i dont know how long they can go on? They hv the right to leave anytime!

Dear TJ, on the 5th Aug,10.22pm, u wrote:…. “I was the very first to teach in YZ ( I will be back to teaching when things settled, ),…”. BUT yesterday i read fr the press, u said u will go back to yr home town n Bandung, Indon once u settle everything…which to believe? PPl said good liar must also hv good memories….

To all,
Plssss believe me,Tj will not run away.
we all should trust him and support him!

Dear TJ, on the 5th Aug,10.22pm, u wrote:…. “I was the very first to teach in YZ ( I will be back to teaching when things settled, ),…”. BUT yesterday i read fr the press, u said u will go back to yr home town in Bandung, Indon once u settle everything…which to believe? People said good liar must also hv good memories…….

To Lydm,
gladly, but i dun really wanna spread it here and let other negative member like lisa to spot me, email me at kishimoto_kai@hotmail.com so i can reply you ok ?
To Lisa,
people are busy helping, while you are there keep saying the word, just accept the “fate” that YZ is going dead, if all ppl think lidat, that means YZ = Dead, if you do not wish to support, please, quit blogging here.
To Tan-Tan,
i agree with teacher open a studio as well, and gladly help even pay arent lot like current job, coz its a very profitable if counted as long term business, but if you are agree with lisa and the negative behavior, no thanks you are not fully in our struggling group.
To Yen,
Well, 3 front desk during afternoon ? i think you must be there during the shift change period, do you know weld time is different from all clubs? their time is 6 30 to 2 30 and 1 30 to 9 30, so if you are at the middle of the shift change, you are judging us at a wrong time, really wrong wrong time.
To Tiger,
i am sad to hear about that, but as what i am heard, TW outlet also cancel 2 of the evening class because jane couldnt make it, i receive few calls asking why the schedule is out but class cancel last minutes, well plz try to understand where not all teacher are robots(can work efficiently and do not need rest, who noes jane really busy or not feeling well ?)most of the best 16 are really trying very hard to teach more den 4 class a day.

i guess more den 3 outlets member know me actually, but they doesnt really noe my name, anyway, glad to see there is alot of member trying to help us, even lisa’s negative comment receive alot of counter-reply, so i am confident that supporting member are lots more den those wish us dead member,

To Whoever not supporting,
you can come and go,support or not, we(staff & Teacher)wont brain wash you, whether you wanna stay here(what makes you come and become our member ?think what attract you and what caught your attention before you join us)

To Whoever Supporting,
Thx again on behalf of teacher and staff, with this little support, we could at least survive and struggle finish this august,giving you the best service we could until we cant do it anymore.

To Whoever haven choose their side yet,
*please think again what makes you choose us to learn yoga(alot centre, what make you come to us ?)
*Do you think you can enjoy such service and unlimited class everyday at other centre ?
*are you sure that all teacher outside(which cheeper)have the same standard as our teacher here ?(no offense to outside teacher please)
*do you enjoy the atmosphere of all clubs you visited ?

dear every1 here, when i think its a suitable time to reveal my identity, i will, because i still feel threatened because we haven get fully support from all members. anyway, read the statement about yz weld member comitee, glad to see 1 outlet starting to group up and combine energy to stand still.

Regards,
Namaste

Yen…The teachers are paid according to their qualification. It is a mutual agreement between the management and the teachers. Outsider should not challenge or comment on this.U got no right to condemn or question how the teachers spent their had earn $. Pls bear in mind the teachers are still conducting classes without complaining their were not paid 3 months!!

i guess yen are thinking being teacher is very earning, dont she knows teacher gotta practive, retake higher, harder TTC and course to extend their knowledge, understanding always ? for the workshop they attend, the payment is always about 300+ to more den 1.5k per course, meanwhile, they gotta take care on their own health, maintain a good shape, do body check, and outside practice to keep the condition in exellent shape.some teacher also got family to support, expenses to cover, and lots more commitment to be done, so befor what you says, Yen, Plz ask what teacher does always,and understand on their behalf,

do you think only your GC matter ? most ppl also worry on their GC,some new members also worry but if you got time to make a fuss here, better go for class and relax, put away you golden circle membership aside.

like what chinese says, when boat arrive to the port,automatically it will goes in straight.

and i would like to add 1 more sentence
if you love to make the situation get worst,who noes can you reach the port or u would end up at somewhere else ?

if you cant understand what i means,
read this,

If we support and let it goes, more trust makes YZ get through this situation.
but if we tried to make fuss of everything, ending you wont get what you want or even loss more den what you want.

GET IT ?
UNDERSTAND IT!
THX!!!!
(sorry my chinese education is 0, so what i write is what i heard and inspire me)

Dear Iisa, people will respect you only when you respect others. Pls keep your mouth sealed and said nothing. You are not welcome at all to be the YZ family. We will never giveup our family members until the last minutes breath.

Dear LangYungSern,
check ur mail box,please!
Dear min,
you are right!
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Hi Tj if read ever read this, pls. let us know what is happening in malacca as wendy had said that both she and alan had been cheated like members AND they have terminated their franchising this is what i heard. now if this is thru dont forget there is also a famous monk involve, you, alan or wendy can cheat us but not a monk. As if you have count the pak tze what ever you done now will be replace in your children or your wives perhaps not now but later in life. So if what Alan Wife say is truth then yoga zone in malacca is history. TJ your pic in Star News stated you are an Indonesian. I’ve always have a bad impression on Indon and is just prove that you(indon), alan and wendy (malaysian) are cant be trusted. Wonder how you’ve got two wives when you cant even have the slightest guts to c us in Malacca. Remember you do it to us now there’s always karma.

lydm,i check already, dont have wor you mail, maybe u can email me again

kishimoto_kai@hotmail.com

The racist remarks by ’sadness’ are quite uncalled for. Think we should not get carried away. What has being Indonesian got to do with the issue? Are we being insensitive to our Indonesian friends?

sadness,
please it has nothing to do with what race,it is just purely business and there is no win-win situation.is all about business.
nobody is at fault.alan and wenyi venture into this business at their own will and everybody has to take risk in business.
again,i have to say,DON’T BELIEVE RUMOURS.

08/08/08
Inside acc still empty. i1 money… i1 my salary…

YZ have nothing for us to stay anymore, if we don’t want to take back our money as soon as possible, I don’t think we have another chance to claim back anymore.
Their management is totally suck! the way they control their financial SUCK! We’re the consumer, we’re not your family or friend, we have no point to share your lose, vomit out all money that you SUCKED from us, YZ are fail to done their task that they promise to us while we’re signing their package. What you need to do now is REFUND, we don’t want to have this nightmare in our life anymore especially for those who signed for life time membership, try to get back your money as soon as possible, because YZ life time membership = YZ’s life, Not your LIFE!

I never get so “sick” before till the few previous feedback from those who are so concerned about YZ,
Dear Tiger,
“I WILL BE BACK TO TEACHING ONCE THINGS SETTLED!” Yes, I mean it! “I WILL GO BACK TO MY HOMETOWN BANDUNG”, Yes, I mean it too! What’s wrong with the two statements? Yoga is everywhere, teaching yoga is not only in YZ/Malaysia, it can be everywhere that I feel the energy. So, the “liar” you mentioned is me? Furthermore, how could you be victimised as for last week and this week, classes you joined this week are completely FREE! You made me know that there’s only PERCEPTION and no more TRUTH in this world.
To “those-who-think-i-will-runaway”,
I were given the nickname as “conman”, “coward”, “hide-behind” by those thinking of ruining YZ, any of the category I mentioned above must be smart guy, will a person made so much public announcement when he/she plans to runaway? Think.
Dear Worries,
I have only one Wira Aeroback ( a car I bought many years ago ), now used by our operation executive to shuttle teachers and operating works.
Properties??? I will never buy cause I believe we “OWN”/”POSSESS” nothing but ourselves. you can check with the relevant departments, I rented all the accomodation I used to live, and for Valencia I lived in before, IT’S NOT PAID BY YZG. FYI, in order to cut cost, I’m now staying with my parents at our flat near kepong, my mom bought it 3 years ago @ RM 42k+
Dear Sadness,
Yoga is NOIN-RELIGOUS and NO-BOUNCARIES,what’s wrong with Inodensia? Alan and Wen Yee did not franchising YZ, but under licensee’s program, the truth speaks louder. I always believe that when the time is up, when you are about to let go your last breathe, are you afraid? If yes, simply we know what we have done wrong in our life. Those who wants to ruin YZ, make sure you know what you are talking about; those who wants to blame TJ, make sure you know whatever you mentioned in this blog, I can use any other name on the blog to play games/poke fire, but
I chose to be truthful, are you?
From day one when I established YZ, I only hope that more people can practice yoga at an affordable fees, I always tell my members from day one till now, we are building a community, not only business. It shown clearly in this blog. If TJ wants to use strategy, he won’t use yogajess.com as a platform, as Jess is too neutral, I must as well set up my own/or using other nickname to have full control.
Dear worries,
Running away? yes, it’s easy; face the problem and solve it, it’s challenging, but I have chosen the later simply I know what I’m doing now is for those who support YZ all this while. Keeping passport only? there are so many avenues to escape from a country if a person intend to do so. Please practice good intention, as I always mention before.
I can imagine some of those who have been writing on this blog in damgaging/defamatory way and your intention is just to bring this down and have “floating” members for you to do your sales in your establishments. Please don’t do this, when we mention “karma”, please understand “karma”, winning over words is simple, but no one can run away from what he/she is doing. I’m geting the karma now cause I trusted too much, however, I never complain, I will make things right.
IF I WERE TO RUN AWAY, IT WILL BE LONG TIME AGO; IF I WERE TO RUN AWAY, I NEED NOT TO REPLY BLOG HERE AND BEING MENTIONED BY ONE OFOUR TEACHER AS “WASTING TIME”, IF I WERE TO RUN AWAY, SIMPLY I DARE NOT TO FACE THE PROBLEM; IF I KNOW THAT THINGS WILL BE FINE, WHY SHOULD I RUNAWAY?
To givebackmymoney, HOW MUCH DOES YZ OWE YOU? WHAT PACKAGE DID YOU SIGN? LIFETIME/YEARLY? if refund to you can save YZ, I would hope to meet you personally and refund to you cause I couldn’t believe that you belonged to YZ, our teachers all had done a good job to nurture the interest and educate the philosiphy of yoga to the members. There’s only two possiblities: you are the member but don’t practice enough OR you are GUY-NEXT-DOOR?
The fUnny thing is: YOU ASK MEMBERS TO GET BACK THEIR MONEY –”try to get back your money as soon as possible, because YZ life time membership = YZ’s life, Not your LIFE!”, how about YOUR OWN MONEY? Do contact us and I will meet you personally.
To Green Green@YF,
soon, soon…
Dear Iisa,
So, which fitness establishment are you working with? If TJ doesn’t care, why he’s still here to reply? How could you measure yoga classes with “tons”? It’s an insult! So, what’s the weight per class?
When you are calling teachers/employees in YZ immature, it only shows your quality. Let me tell you this, they are the best employees in YZ, far beyong those in any wellness establishment.
It’s only a month’s time, the truth will prevail, will you again agree to apologize to them and things turn around? The only way to make you a better person is to admit your fault, face it, then solve it. I’m doing it now.

The truth is out there, the truth will be revealed soon, the one is always given empty promises, the one is always playing a cheating game, the who is always disppearing and hiding tiny brain….this is the one digging grave yard

I take back my comment about the teachers and apologise. However i do feel its time to be more transparent and let us know whats going on. TJ, how much do you actually owe ppl esp rental, utilities on each of the outlets? Who is managing the RM99 vouchers account? How is it being paid out to staff? Why cant you guys answer and clear all the misconceptions instead of just saying you are trying your best?? You do not have to reply to the insults/negative comments , just let us know the exact details so we can also decide if we should continue supporting YZ in whatever capacity. TQ

I shall shut myself up and wishing all of us the very best of luck & hopefully all of us will be able to attend the classes like last time soon. I apologize if i have offended anyone here. Sorry & best wishes to you all.

Dear TJ,
Release yourself from the need to defense all the “attacks” that u received. To those who attacked u, every defense will be perceived as an attack. Then u will attract more attacks. To me, that is really a waste of your energy in negative way. Just center yourself in your vision and your mission and focus all your energy in what u promise u would do, u will progress better and faster. There is no accident in our intelligent universe. Realize that everything that shows up in your life has something to teach u. so do appreciate everything and everyone in your life eventhough some of them may appear to b hostile and unfriendly.
TJ, defenselessness is true strength.
Pls free yourself from the “good” opinion of others. U are who u r, perfect and whole at this moment.
When you realise WHO U REALLY ARE and if you knew who walked beside you at all times in this path that u have chosen, u will never experience fear or doubt again. i trust u can go tru this challenge and emerge as a new man, stronger and wiser. I see the God Essense in u, everyone and everything that is love and light. Don give up, still believe in your dream. U can do it because there r still many who show supports and love for u. Don disappoint them.
I admire your parents, they r great. U r very fortunate to have them. Blessings and Love, Light N Peace to u and everyone.

Thanks Dr Su. Although your message is addressed to TJ, I myself find it very encouraging.

I am glad to read TJ’s explanations on this blog from time to time; there are a lot of gossips going on at the outlet. Everyone has their own version of the story and genuinely believes in it.

Tj.. You establised YZ and allowed students to practise yoga at affordable price was deeply appreciated. But don forget tat u have made your millions also. Therefore, just settle whatever owing to people and get over with it. The teachers and staff deserve their salaries so as you your biz profit.

Dear TJ,
“Every adversity brings with it a seed of equivalent or greater benefit”. It takes courage for a person to admit his wrongs. I believe in u.

Dear jediknights,
completely AGREE!
Dear yen,
I’m really sorry for not able to reveal at this moment. But, GOOD NEWS VERY VERY SOON, stay tuned!
Dear drsu,
Really thanks for the teaching, my apology to everyone for my fault, I will make it up for you all, both employees and members as soon as possible.

TJ,what’s the point you keep on reply the negative comments and ignoring our questions?I knew you always choose the question to reply but all is nonsense,everybody include me,teachers,staffs and members just wish to know the truth only so please answer us!What you mean by “GOOD NEWS VERY VERY SOON”?you need to take how many hours,days or months to announce your “GOOD NEWS”?We can’t wait anymore do you know?Please…

TJ, would appreciate if you could kindly up-grading those “BEST 16?15?13?” in terms of their salary, benefit etc. once the new management teams has taken over. They deserve for that.

I will support you as a GC from Cheras Plaza outlet. Awaiting for the GOODNEWS soon.

i will continuosly support YZ as i believe YZ has made YOGA accessible to almost aeveryone. I think that is one hell of achievement albeit all the misery. Kudos

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Dear TJ: I heard tans of news from my wife( lazy to read all those comments clearly, juz gon thru only:) and Man to Man talk, I’m proud of u still can stand straight till now! YOU ARE MAN!KAMBA-DE!!!

Anybody can tell me where Ethan going? I love him becoz he teach us Pilates & Fitball very well

I think everyone had come thru bad experience, some may easy to gone thru everything and some may not. I believe they will also try their best to battle difficulties….in such cases what they need is time and patience. Silent is violent killer coz ppl will start to build their own perception. Optimism not everyone can have it, maybe 1/10 surrounding us.
We are the member of YZ, and TJ is spoken man from management. Think…..we are in the “Titanic” now, what we need to know is how we can cross over and to survive, we put pretty much of hope on the management and the situation now this the management cannot control, and those member are awake with anxiety.
This is NOT one person business, pls share with us member, if not, talk to the professional ppl. they might have better strategy/solution to over come it.
Last, do not ever test a person patience it might get enough to explore the entire universe

Hi there, at first I was thinking of joining YZ but I have to re-considered now because of these news and are all classes remained as usual at the moment? What about Pilates? Or just Yoga classes will be on only?

Dear all,
can we don’t define/group teachers, all of them are equally good and all are YZ QUALITY. It’s only the tentatively pending issue of salary issues that made some teachers frustrated, I can understand their feeling cause I have been making ‘empty promises’, once bitten, twice shy. The unpredicted incident of the previous potential investor had taught me a REAL BIG LESSON, ( again, simply I trust what he promised, which is to TT the fund into our payroll account, but he didn’t do it ), I happily issued the post-dated pay cheques dated on 25th and asked HR manager, David to pass to the teachers asap, and nightmare came when the promise was empty, the teachers’ feeling now must be exactly the same as how I felt; hence, after this lesson, I told myself despite of all kinds of pressure, I must make sure MONEY IN FIRST, THEN ONLY ANNOUNCE AND ISSUE CHEQUES, the feeling of being cheated is not good, YZ teacher are considered very
understanding already, cause they don’t go to labour office or hold a press conference to finish off YZ. Be honest, yes, THERE’S AN INVESTOR, IT’S NOT I MAKE UP THE STORY! The company is wellness-based and synergize well with YZ energy, members expect to enjoy more perks, especially GC members!
Mr. Investor, are you reading the blog? We had discussion till 1.30am last night.
SOON SOON SOON!

Glad to hear that from u TJ. At least this time, is more like it. U admit that the teachers are still not paid. So hope these problem cleared ASAP like to said really ‘SOON’. So that, every thing back to normal.
Next time don promise anything when thr is a doubt.
U know, thr is always hv the chance that things can be changed, even go to the last second. Coz, ppl change their mind.

Dear Vynie,

You can join YZ classes for 1 month by purchase rm99 voucher, this is even cheaper then yearly fee / 12 months. No need to reconsider, though meantime classes are less but everyday still has morning and evening classes as usual at the moment. We have Pilates and Yoga classes.

Just ask for rm99 voucher fr the frontdesk.

dear tj

hope you will get the investor to come in very fast and not wait too long cos most of your good teachers have resigned and more will be leaving if they are not paid.

To all teachers ( resigned/existing/new ),
All the outstanding salary will be settled within month of august. No exact date can be promised at this point of time cause I don’t want the similiar situation happen again.
I never mention I had paid the may teachers’ salary. I had my whole press conference in mandarin language, it’s not surprise that press reported
wrongly. 8TV MANDARIN NEWS did recorded and reported this. Sometimes I just want to ask one question, Why do you hate TJ so much? Hmmm… If this incident had never happened, salary is all the while on time and everything runs smoothly, will you hate TJ? ( sorry if I offend anyone of you, I just hope to know the root of my problem so that I can change and make sure it won’t happen again ).

Tj,
i never hate u,i love u ve~~~~ry much.
answer my question pls! my dear…

OH MY GOD!!AGAIN!TJ AGAIN AND AGAIN TRY TO PUSH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO OTHERS!!AT FIRST,SAID MANAGEMENT AND HIS P.A. MAKE OUR COMPANY DOWN AND FAIL.SECOND,SAID CONSULTANTS DON WAN TO DO SALES MAKE COMPANY NO CASH FLOW.THIRD,SAID TEACHERS DON WAN TO TEACH MAKE MEMBERS ANGRY.FOURTH,SAID MEMBERS DON TRY TO UNDERSTAND HIS SITIUATION AND COMPLAINT TO DAP AND MEDIA.FIFTH,SAID PRESS AND MEDIA REPORT WRONG HIS CASE AND STATUS MAKE WHOLE WORLD MISUNDERSTAND HIM.SIXTH,BCZ OF SO MANY REASONS AT ABOVE,WE MAKE THE INVESTOR DON WAN TO INVEST AGAIN.NOW,THE STORY REVERSE BACK AND SAID THE INVESTOR “EMPTY PROMISE” AND MAKE THE TEACHERS CHEQUES BOUNCE……GOOD!GOOD!!U R VY GOOD!!!
SO,WATS THE NEXT?WE R WAITING FOR UR NEW STORY AGAIN CZ IT SO INTERESTING!!”OSCAR THE BEST ACTOR?ACTRESS?”TJ,EVEN I RESIGN LONG TIME BUT I STIL ADMIRE UR “CREATIV” IDEA AND MIND THINKING!!I WILL 200% SUPPORT UR “PITY STORY”!DON FORGET TO CALL JOHN WU GOT INTEREST ON UR NEW MOVIE “FACE OFF 2″ ONOT?TJ IS THE BEST!!!YEAH~YEAH~~YEAH~~~~

dear jesslw,
when I believe, I will never change. Stupid me. I learned a good lesson.
to all that doubt where-the-money-gone?
I truly have no more fund ( as a business owner, if I do have, I would quickly pay the teachers and employees and make them work to earn more for me ), I simply don’t have it, I’m not ask for sympathy. I didn’t get my salary ( some may think that I’m the first to get the salary, sorry, I never ) for the past 8 months, simply I know though from statutory point of
view, it’s two separate entities, but do you think I can/will just leave/sell off YZ and never care? When YZ was a babe, I nurture, build, brand, design, teach, develop, expand it, he’s 6 years old now, I know that it’s time to let it be independent. If you have your own children, you will know what I mean.

TJ,WE DIDNT HATE U!WE LOVE U SO MUCH TIM!!BUT IF U CLEAR OFF OUR EPF,SCOSO,INCOME TAX,INCENTIV,COMMISSIONS AND SALARY THEN WE WIL LOVE U SO MUCH AGAIN!!WE GOT TABUNG SO WE DON SCARE NO MONEY USE BUT STILL HOPE U WIL CLEAR WAT U OWED US SOON!!(U OWE ME 40K)TAKE CARE AND LOVE YA!!!!!!!

WA…PITY OF MY DARLING TJ!ACTUALLY U NEVA GET UR SALARY SINCE 8 NTHS AGO!!BUT U STIL CAN EAT BAK KU TEH!!SO GOOD!!U MUST B VY VY RICH LO!BUT U R THE BIGGEST BOSS IN YZ Y STIL NEED TO GET SALARY LE?I DUN UNDERSTAND WO!CAN U EXPLAIN?EVERY MONTH COMPANY EARN MORE THAN 2MLLION THEN TATS UR SALARY LE MA!NOT MEH??ANG GU GU….

Dear TJ’s admirer,
you are long resigned staff, does company still have any outstanding salary owing to you, if yes, good news to you, it will be settled in august; if no, thanks for spending your time to read through this blog and it proves that you care, no more hatred/ attack, ‘defenselessness is the true strength’, thanks drsu.
Dear ‘good teachers’,
if salary is the issue, please don’t go, members love you all, give YZ a chance, it will bounce back much greater. If you are setting up your own studio, great, more people can learn yoga and the community can be stronger; if you are teaching elsewhere, YZ always welcome you back when you want to back to our home; if you stop teaching, then just practice more.

Dear All,

Dont argue and quarrel at here anymore, is for wat??? u all have to find new place for practice your yoga…

Dear Tj, do you welcome back the resigned teachers, they are the great teachers. Many members miss them so so much. They are the great asset to YZ too.

Hi Fei, thanks on your info. But how it can be cheaper on the vouchers (RM99) as the previous monthly fee was also RM99/month? Just kind of confused now @.@

Dear TJ,

I went to have lesson this morning at Plaza Damas, there was only one frontdesk personnel working. She is from Indonesia. I praised her for her full support of your management and disappointed to find out she will be asked to leave her apartment which yogazone rent it for the staff. She told me she has no one to turn to as her passport is kept by her agent and she has not got salary as well. As she is a new staff and I believe she has no extra money to keep her with this kind of situation. Not like the rest of local staff they can just work somewhere else or at least the family will still there to support them with food and lodging. I am urging you to make a call to understand the situation. She really need immediate attention and help.

SAI BABA SAYS:

IF YOU CAN’T FEED THE WHOLE WORLD, THEN AT LEAST TO FEED ONE

Any information please call this numbers,thanks!I didnt take company money!Dont blame me.

TjHin -012-3988 500
Marcus-012-3901 199

Hi Vynie,
Before i joined GC which is the life member, i took one year package which was about rm1400++. The recent yearly package might be cheaper (but it’s still rm1200++), I think it’s worth to try this rm99 per month.

Hi Fei,
Thanks a lot. Definitely will consider on this. =)

Its difficult situation for TJ. Coz now his playin with his words. His now denyin everything. He play with his sentences. He is getting people’s attention now to take a longer time make us think that he will be doing as what he said. But actually, until now I also dont see any new management coming abort.
He had CLEARLY STATED that he will not be replyin to any comments but now he is still doing it. I dont bother what he says. He says the salary will be out in August and WHICH year’s august?
Acting like a maniac at Cheras outlet. and until now, you still havent learned your lesson. Everyone trusted you and stand on your side but still u take this oppertunity to furthur damage ppl.
With your green yoga, with your tactical RM 99 approach, to help you pass your difficulties. Please think of others, others are DEM far more pity than you. Mentioned many times in the comment, still you try to denied many thing.
Dont try to blame me for flaming him about the things that he has done.

He doesnt answer even 1 Question in the comments. You can avoid for now but not forever.

I am a YZ member in BBT Klg. I joined last year. I have worked for company that has the same problem like YZ. The CEO/MD of company endured all difficulties from customers, suppliers and bankers. But, until today, the company still exist and have done much better than most public listed company. The only chance for any company in problem to survive is the inventor or MD/CEO must steer the company out of difficulty times, and i bet, YZ will be better and come out stroner than any other company in future. I believe YZ can be the world largest Yoga center… TJ, dont give up..Donald Trump delclared a bankrupt in 1994 and now today he is doing so well as a real estatetycoon and TV celeberitiy. The person whom can save and revive YZ is TJ.. nobody has best expereince like him..

Dear TJ,

I’m just interested to know the status of YZ being taken over. Have you all signed any agreements i.e. the share sale agreement or still in negotiation stage? At least the status will tell us when YZ will be sun as usual or perhaps better than previous…. THANKS!

sorry, typo error… i mean when “RUN” as usual…

TJ is still in a state of denial. Still so defensive. You should be looking at restructuring the group, to reduce costs and bring in additional revenue. If I am right, based on my analysis of your comments/response, you are more interested in securing a high price for your shareholdings by still maintaining all the outlets and then leave all the problems to the new investor, if there is any! Be realistic, under current economic uncertainties, you may only be paid RM1 plus all the liabilities!. A responsible employer will ensure that all his employees are able to meet their basic necessities such as food, lodging etc by paying their salaries promptly. By not paying their EPF, they are actually taking a pay cut. So stop all the excuses.
As I have commented yesterday, with 20,000 members, there is no way the group can fail unless due to mismanagement and fraudulent practices. Not everyone can handle success with plenty of money received upfront. Their heads normally grow very very big, refusing to realise that after the payments, there will be no monthly income to pay expenses. Fixed costs for Yoga outlets should be very low, main ones are rentals and salaries. With your good teachers and flexible schedules, I am sure more than 95% of the members will renew their memberships. Yogazone is already a household name and coupled with yoga being an in-thing, there is no way the group can fail! Because of these I did not sign up with Myoga. I didn’t took into account the mismanagement and potential fraudulent practices aspects when I renewed my membership. I can only blamed myself for such an expensive oversight!
Cash Flow and only CASH FLOW can rescue the group. You have to bite the bullet really hard. Take note that most self-made businessmen have gone through such setbacks. Don’t daydream and start to take concrete and painful actions such as the following:-

1) Close all the fitness outlets and sell all the equipments (unless they are all on leasing/HP) and use the proceeds for operating costs. Closing yoga outlets will not bring much cash flow since there are no fixed assets other than the yoga mats and computers. As Yogazone is famous for yoga, closing any outlets will affect public confidence;
2) Sell all your assets and use the proceeds to support the operations;
3) Transfer all the fitness outlets members to the yoga outlets;
4) Sit down and restructure amount owing to everyone. Gradual payments are better than no payments;
5) Setting a business up to current stage with 20,000 members is no easy feat. Don’t kill it for short term gain. From the picture in the Star, you looks quite young. Still a lot of years to build your empire!;
6) Go for monthly subscriptions as under current fiasco, only fools will subscribe on a yearly or lifetime basis and don’t try to convince already “suck” members to pay further.

Time is not on your side. Start cracking! God bless you!

Hey better watch Olympic now…

TJ, I m very angry on what you have written abt the new investor coming soon. You are very ungrateful even after so many problems. Sympathizing on your financial problem, I spoke to my friend on the investment and got to know from him that you both have met and discussed. When I called him today after reading your statement, he told me that even yesterday he sms you, called you and even called your PA, who promise to get back to him after checking with you but never got back until today evening. You can always tell him if you are not interested on his proposal than being so unethical. (the usual TJ). It was my insistence that he agreed to talk to you and what do I tell him now?????? You will never change. I give up on you and your attitude. YOU BETTER DONT TELL HIM THAT I HAVE WRITTEN IN THIS BLOG AND MAKE ME MORE SICK BECAUSE OF YOU.

Hi all our lover teachers and members, Let’s believe him for the last.
Let’s wait to see the true picture by end of this month.
Let’s be patient to wait for the declaration of the good news.
Let’s pray together the things go smoothly.
Let’s show our supports until the last breath.
Let’s do the most important matter is to support the RM99 for the current teachers who still teaching us at this critical time.
Let’s stop all the blaiming.
God will always bless us if we believe them.

I’m Marcus, I just reached home after went to police station and talking to the colleagues at Taman Desa. There are 6 persons ( 4 males and 2 females ) from Ferrier Hodgson MH Sdn Bhd, they took a warrant and said that they are here for receivership. I was puzzled because I don’t know what’s actually happened, I called to my boss, TJ immediately although I know that he’s having a meeting.
They were forceful to ask me to let them go into the office because they got the court order from Lim Lay Gaik, the 10% shareholder for “receivership”, one of the guy from the said above company told me if I don’t allow them to go in, they will break our glass door.
First thing clicked into my mind is, why receivership and why suddenly? ? Boss asked me to get the order from them and when I read through, the file in date was 6th August 2008 and the boss to ask whether he has receive or not, boss mentioned to me what’s that and what’s the case; he was also worry and he asked me is it “Lay Gaik”’s matter? I said yes, and they are here for receivership, then boss asked whether they got warrant and seal copy of court order or not, one of the male representative, according to the name card he given to me, is CHIOK FOONG CHUAN, a project director ( but I really don’t know what company is this…. ) told me “this is an approved draft copy.”, I immediately told him boss wants seal copy not draft copy, and it must be from high court.
Out of sudden, one of the female representative told me, “don’t be difficult, this is an order!”, their mafia way made me really scared, cause I was alone and all the happy members are going to studio to attend the class. In order not to create more troubles, I decided to call police because they said if I stopped them from doing so, they will arrest me ( are they police??? ), while waiting for the police to come, they still threatened me for another 2 minutes, they are going to break in to the office, I found these people are crazy, and I heard from boss ( as everyone knows, good news soon! ), I just suddenly become super hero and challenge them all the way out, ( can you believe that? I saw Vivian, the strategy manager of YZ, driving a WAJA, (the one who went to Wisma MCA to complain to Michael Chong that her salary was not paid, but sometimes I wonder, she never comes to work for so long, why she’s still a current employee, other staff salary was also notg paid yet what, they still come to work; she is the only general manager in YZ now, why don’t lead by good example? ) and also the LIM LAY GAIK ( i only met her once while in employees meeting at Cheras Plaza last week, I wonder why she as a director and sharholder also keeps on pushing questions and responsibilities to boss, and also her male friend, not an employee of YZ, maybe Lay Gaik’s “boy” friend, were inside to keep on asking those director’s question which I don’t understand, he even hold my arm and wanted to beat me when I asked him to go out ) driving a Hyundai Matrix ( same like my car ) and passed in front of YZ, Taman Desa, Vivian was smiling happily like waiting for her prey ( my personal opinion ), it’s really surprise caused I’ve been at Taman Desa for months and never see them here but why suddenly can see two faces I have always wanted to know.
I just know after working in YZ for a while, I can slowly understand the feeling of family, because all the staff and members are so warm ( I station at Kepong outlet to help out now ), I like this company, and I know why my colleagues care about the members so much, because it’s just like our own brothers and sisters. I know that if anyone want to spoil us I will fight back, I asked them to go to police station and we reported the case, they didn’t make it to enter the office. I contacted Marie, the ex-company secretary of YZ recently and asked her why Stephanie Chia didn’t want to reply boss SMS or properly handover, she told Marie and Maried told me Stephanie told her that not to tell yet, and will know soon.
Sometimes I wonder the teachers cheques were released on 23rd, boss has been calling them and smsing them for more many times but they didn’t want to reply or response, ( me and David knew that boss just want a handover, a statement of the project and operation creditors to finalise the money to come in for teachers’ salary on 25th ) then 24th, two of them resigned on the same day, boss was still sms them but still no reply. then cheques on 25th for teachers cannot go thru.
I remember Steph was boss’ tuition student and Paullin was his mei mei, really very funnny.
Then come all these never-expected incident, I thought boss said that family value is important, what happened to them le? like want YZ and boss to die.
Finally, I still feel proud cause I successfully stop them from damaging YZ. After another conversation with boss ( he asked me not to tell you all yet ), i know that there are many people wants YZ and boss to die, if today I’m not brave enough, 20,000 members will be suffered, 250 employees will be lapsed, boss will be broke and YZ will be a history.
I’m really happy today because I know I’m doing something for everyone and not for myself.
( Don’t attack me like boss’ boy friend la, of course you support him, you know boss has so many husbands, wives, bfs, gfs, I don’t want other to jeolous )
Tonight I will sleep well because if Guan Ni Ma asked me, I will tell her I’ve done good today.
Lay Gaik, sorry ya, I just don’t understand why you want to finish off the company, very not logical lor…

Marcus,Marcus…
i really admire u!!!!!u are YZ’s hero!!!!! good job!!!
i will ask Guan Ni Ma to hug and kiss u in ur dream!!!!
hey come to melaka i treat u chiken rice ball!!i bring u to jonker walk!!!
i serve u like a king!!!!

Hi Marcus,

Ya, you are brave to save YZ just now but you seem not yet finish the story. You started this very interestng topic but hanging half way. What was actually happened thereafter in the police station and why they did so? What action will police take against them if they actually have no right doing so? Why or what is the rational they did so? Moreover, it should be considered a serious case as they threaten you…? This could be security issue next, so police must have to do something, right?

What? Conspiracy Theory??
The drama is becoming more and more interesting and “exciting” to follow.
Holy Ghost!! When the mafias come again, someone pls Blast it out in the blog we’ll all go and help.

Why tomorrow Kepong class time table not up yet?

hello Marcus, do you know what is the meaning of receivership? If you do, do you know what you should do when it happens? U probably dont know la.Don’t blur blur try and be hero to fight the law coz you may end up in jail on behalf of your BELOVED BOSS! Its not worth it!

Dear MARCUS

If you do not know what is receivership, please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Receivership before you are giving out commemtns, please do not follow your “good boss” who was “proudly” said he knows nothing in business term.

Of course you felt proud of it, this is because you are his blue eye boy, you are wearing many hats, HR, Finance, Sales, but i must also sympathy on you,soon you will be one of those people mentioned in your list, do you remember “once upon a time”, tuition student and “mei mei” were his “pets”, supporting him inside out, drinking with him until next day morning ? do you know what is the rationale behind they keep distance from him ? again it shows that you know nothing about the history and incidents

To correct your words, no one wanted to “damage” the company but your “good boss”, again, it shows you are damn childish as you know nothing about history, have you ever not get single cent of pay for a few months ? have you ever spent 300k in a business, at the end gets nothing ? do you know your epf and income tax are not paid up ? (oH ! forgot you are his blue eye boy, surely your epf/income tax fully paid), oh, maybe you thought that, salary, epf and income tax, all of it not important to you, simply you are his blue eye boy….congrats to you

BTW, those staff still remain in the company, simply they cant find a job, sh….sh…sh, dont tell your good boss, ok

Halo,
I just habis saya punya kerja dengan boss saya meeting dan sekarang guna komputer boss untuk biarkan seluruh dunia tahu apa yang sebenarnya berlaku.
Aku memang orang biasa kalau bandingkan dengan pekerja di yoga zone, saya tiday paham apakah tujuan mereka yang sudah meletak jawatan. Kalau sudan resingn, pergilah! mengapa kacau kakitangan yang masih kerja di sini. Ini memang jadikan aku marah, mereka memang tidah paham maknanya “berat sama dipikul, ringal sama dijinjing”, kalau ada apa-apa yang berlaku, bersama-sama dengan tuan kamulah, apa yang mereka buat demikian tu dinamakan PENDERHAKAAN! Perkataan yang digunakan adalaH FITNAH! jika dari segi agama, kesemuanya hany dengan hukuman mati.
mula-mula saya kerja, saya hanya sangka bos saya adalah anak orang kaya, tidak berbuat apa-apa, selepas mengikuti dia untuk 3 minggu, saya boleh paham tekanannya dari segi kehidupan and sosial, jika saya diberi peluang, memang aku tidak mahu semacam dia,hari-hari dimarah tapi masih senyum; saya ajak,”bos, awak ada investor sudah, mengapa masih mahu pilih pilih? jual dan jom lepak lah!”, bos hanya beritahu sebagai insan, ketenangan fikiran adalan yang paling penting. saya pernah jumpa itu perempuan yang dikatakan ada sepuluh peratus syer di yoga zon semasa saya bos ada meeting di cheras, dia hanya kacau-kacau aje dalam meeting terseut dengan seorang laki muda yang terlampau banyak mulut, tak henti-henti laki itu tanya soalan yang tidak berkaitan dengan isu pekerja, kerana saya diberitahu oleh bos ini meeting untuk pekerja yoga zon. lepas saya berhubungan dengan markus, sekarang saya paham cerita yang sebenarnya.
kesemua kamu memang bernasib baik kerana bos masih bertungkus-lumus untuk bayar balik gaji kamu, tapi senantiasa ada insan yang tidao berotak, atau digelarkan sebagai binatang, mahu habiskan bukan bos aje,tapi kamu semua ni.
kadangkala, aku pun tanya sendiri mengapa mahu kerja begitu susah sampai lapan belas jam sehari dengannya, ya, dia memang kaki bir, tapi dia bukan minum dan berfoya-foya dengan perempuan, dia hanya minum dan diam diam jawab semua blog di sini aje walaupun betapa letihnya.
halo, yoga zon tidak bayar kami punya gaji lah, ibunya yang bayar kami setiap hujung minggu, kami bukan kerja untuk yoga zon tapi untk bos, jangan suka-suka cakap dia yang boros wang, kalau dia tiada di sini lagi, siapakah yang melindungi hak asasi ahli-ahli dan gaji pekerja? Ajak tu perempuan gila yang hanya ada sepuluh peratus syer lah!
selepas bercakap-cakap dengan kakitangan di yoga zon, bos, markus dan david, saya rasa perempuan ini memang berketerlaluan, hanya untuk kebaikan sendiri aje dan tidak peduli hak ahli-ahli yoga zon, apa cakap lagi dengan pekerja-pekrja yang masih dihutangkan gajinya.
kadangkala semasa jaga bos, dia tidak tidur sampai pagi kami pun mesti jaga baik baik, mula-mulanya kami hanya sangka bos ni kaKI botol, tapi semakin saya memahami tekanannya dari sebarang segi, semakin saya menghormatinya.
I bukan orang yang berpelajaran tinggi, tapi maruah I tinggi, jika macam tu itu lay gaik mahu habiskan kamu semua, hatinya betul-betul busuk. memangnya kalau hari ini dia mencapai apa “aksi” yang dia kehendakkan, bos kamu, ohhh…soli soli, bos kita memang susah, kerana pekerja yang sudah meletak jawatan bergabung dengan itu perempuan untuk menyelesaikan syarikat ini dan lepas tu mereka sendiri yang jadi bos.
saya tak pernah menyertai yoga punya kelas, tapi jika orang yang belajar yogas atau pun pengurusannya macam ni, saya berasa betul betul bernasib baik tidak pernah sentuh yoga.
Insya-Allah!

Hey Marcus,
Dun think so great of yourself, you can’t stop them all the time. they have the right to to enter YZ’s office anytime now and it’s granted by the Court! let’s face it yr stupid boss lost this time and thank god, FINALLY!!!! Pls dun exaggerate, there aren’t 250 employees ok, it’s less than 10! next time before you write or open your mouth, pls get your facts right! Who the hell do you think you are to go against the LAW????

Helo!!!I was wondering where is ‘KILLER LEG’ CK Disappear to huh??? MIss his Pilates and Fitball class becoz he teach very well…excellent instructor!!!Even though in pain and we have fun with good result… for those who had already been attend CK clsss you guys know what I mean ….(CK FANS). I heard rumours that CK will re-appear at YF Klang to teach Pilates and Fitball CLASS!!!!!REALLY????

soli…belum habis lagi,
orang belajar yoga dipanggil yogi, biasanya herbivor, maksudnya hanya makan sayur-sayuran aje tanpa daging, orang yang demikian biasa mempunyai hati yang suci, tapi apa sudah berlaku dengan pengurus-pengurus kamu? aku mencipta peribahasa sendiri, berat TJ yang pikul, ringan lain yang jinjing. hahaha….soli lah, bos…kadangkala aku rasa awak betul-betul umpama budak..

halo…budak hodoh ( uglykid )! kalau peprempuan, pergi jumpa surgeon kosmetik; kalau laki, ini takdir kamu! hahaha! minta maaf dululah, selepas membaca awak punya artikel, kalau aku jumpa awak, memang macam guru disiplin di sekolah menengah aku di terengganu, ketuk kepala kamu kuat-kuat!
Awak ni diam-diam ubi berisi kah atau yang berkarat? pada hemat saya, memang yang sudah karat, hanya tunggu masa untuk jadi fosil aje… wa hahah!

Marcus, dont be too hard on yourself after reading Yen’s, jediknights’s, uglykid’s comments. You were only trying to help & do what you thought was best. However do becareful in situation such as this, as it involves the matter of the court/law.

jediknights, uglykid – you are all correct to say that Marcus could be getting himself into a sticky situation if he were to pursue this blindly but the poor soul is only trying to help. A courteous advice would suffice, I think.

what a slut,(TJ)like animal, many husband,wifes,girlfrens,boyfrens.Wonder how long u(Macus) know Tj( boss or boyfriend?)What budget film production.Director ;Tj Story:TJ Edit:TJ and U Actor:Tj and U.

i never met Tj,Marcus,david,vennie,lay gaik before cause i’m malacca member.But i wonder one thing since quite sometime ago,why people attacking Tj in anyway they can,no matter true or not,they just want to finish him off asap so that YZ will collapse and they can open their own yoga studio.If Tj is a 90% shareholder and he knows that the company is facing financial challenge,he will be the one first to wind up the company,but why the 10% shareholder can simply get recivership like that?
I’m just wonder who’s the one who set up YZ?Like what Tj mentioned in his previous reply,if you have children you will understand,i wonder whether this Lay Gaik comes with what intention,and also,a he/she?You have children? how old ate you?
sorry…
out of curiosity only.

tj,
i just wan to know y-fitness brem mall still open??
pls reply me

LyDm,
If you are a true Malacca member, i think you should worry bout yr malacca issues first. Ask Alan what actually happened with YZ in malacca, before you start posting your concerns and talk bout others esp Lay Gaik! Put yourself in her shoes, what will you do if you lost/invested RM600K in YZ! if you dunno what’s happening, stop accusing others PLS! First of all do you all know what’s the meaning of RECIEVERSHIP? Whatever she’s doin is not to finish up YZ but to help to re-build it as it’s not in good hands. Pls read up and understand what’s all this is about. Do u know TJ as a person first of all? Don’t think everyone is out here to put him down……..if he hasn’t done anything wrong!!!!

One more thing LyDm, dun talk or ask ’bout people’s children ok? It’s not a nice thing to do. whether people have children or not it’s none of your concern. Pls dun bring ppl’s children into this matter, dun be like the person you looked up to the most TJ!!!!

A simple explanation of a Receiver and Receivership in layman’s terms:

In the context of Law, a “Receiver” is a person or an independent consultancy or professional firm appointed by a Court to manage the operations and affairs of a Company that is in trouble (a “troubled Company”), especially if it is in critical financial difficulties. In ordinary terms, a Receivership is the process whereby the Receiver takes charge of the troubled Company. The primary objectives of the Receiver are to firstly review and assess whether or not the troubled Company can continue to be operational and is able to be profitable again. If it can be, then the Receiver will take charge, manage, operate and run the business as if the Receiver is the Management of the Company.

While under the Receivership, the Receiver will responsibly use the revenue generated from the continuing operations of the Company to ensure proper compliance with all the statutory obligations of the Company, such as Salary Payments, EPF, SOCSO, Corporate and Personal Income Tax and that all outstanding debts owed to creditors are settled eventually. Where necessary, the Receiver will also look for any investor(s) who would be interested in investing in the Company. In simple words, a Receiver is essentially a “White Knight” or a “Doctor” coming in to rescue or heal an ailing/sick company.

However, if despite all efforts made to turnaround the Company, the Receiver deems it no longer possible for the Company to carry on its operation profitably; the Receiver may have no other choice but to start a winding up of the Company as a last resort.

uglykid,
u are really ugly.people just want to know the truth from here.u can keep on scolding people here without any fact like a lunatic.why???who u are???if u really want people to believe in what u said,please use ur real name,not any nick name!please!
but i guess u must be comes from Lay Gaik’s side.

uglykid,
sorry…sorry
u are NOT comes from Lay Gaik’s side.
u are LAY GAIK!!!!!!

TJ,
What’s the status of the refund payment for a non-member for Yin Yoga TTC Level 2? Do answer this.
To others,
There’s been a lot of bickering & name-callings between so-called supporters of both sides( TJ and non-TJ), but the question is, IMHO, why make this personal?
Is it sensible to label people who question TJ’s management ability as people who wants to bring down YZ? Just because they see something wrong and voice it out doesn’t mean they have anything personal against that person, i.e. TJ.
I believe there are a lot of people out there who would want to help make the whole situation better, e.g. suggestion by KH on 8 Aug, so let’s look at the issues at hand objectively and don’t let your emotions take over. Make constructive comments and hopefully the “new” management will take heed.
Thank you.

ryan

LYDM,
Pls. for one last time, pls shut your big mouth if you got nothing else to say ok. Am not Lay Gaik or on Lay Gaik’s side! An just telling the truth and this is why we’re here. dun simply jump to conclusions just because you dun wanna hear the truth or dun wanna listen to something you choose not to ok?

Lydm, oohhhhh sorrryyyyy, sorrrryyyy, you must be on Tj’s side or maybe you are TJ too. Just follow by example!

To All Concerned. I am LAY GAIK. I would like to stress here again. PLEASE DO NOT USE MY NAME IN VAIN!!!!! I DON’T USE PSEUDONYM (for those who don’t know the meaning of this word, it means fictitious/fake name in plain English). I am not a coward!!!!

LyDm, is this your real name? use your full name and not initials if you want me to do so! What do you mean by not comes from Lay gaik’s side? Pls use proper english here if you want me to understand you!!!

LyDM keep your hand stop & mouth shut

gosh, a few day only i wasnt really care here there is a new wave coming in and trying to destroy YZ again,

dear marcus,
good job on holding the “receivers” from coming in the office, if they are really approved by courts, plz come in a proper way, not saying, if u are not letting me in, i’ll threaten you!, if lidat i as a staff also wont let you in la lol… use your brain la….

to uglykid and gangz,
yo man, can you try stop causing havoc again ? please let it goes lah, you guys are making stuff getting worst and worst,if you doesnt wanna help us get through, just wish us dead, dun stay here and pull us to your negative side.

to every1,
yes you all can say i am at TJ side now, coz what? he is still my boss until now, so dun doubt my loyalty toward him and YZ, i dun backstab own boss while he is at his painful time struggling to fulfill his promise(which hardly been fulfill)and trying to get things done.
cmon, i can see alot of people here, some are 2face ppl, some are helping, some are not, some dont care, and some are seems waiting for advantage…

do you think what you doing now is right ? do you thing whatever you are complaining and debating would help ?

guys, giving idea is not wrong, but dun provoke other and pull them to the dead end, its not a good thing to be done.

i can see alot ppl here is practising yoga, but cant see why yoga cant calm you down, sit down, do some pranayama, think clearly whatever happen,and use your logical way to think whay you does is right or wrong.
every1 here is on a same boat, YZ collapse, we no job, no salary, u no workout, loss money…so why lidat ?

lets help whatever we can, and i hope no more complaining on what marcus did, he did to protect the company, because he werent informed, so what is his fault ?

and lastly to LAY GAIK,
yes i doesnt know you, you doesnt know me, but from what i see, =.=
you’re had some fishy stuff in the mind,and i can read it,just hope whats fishy there is good to YZ, not bringing YZ going dead instead. TQ

Regards,
Namaste

To Lang Yung Sern, from my understanding with job or no job also still no PAY! pull through…yeah right! Only lies…..and empty promises! there are no buyer so stop it! no cash in the bank so dun come and tell us to wait again! Ask your boss to stop all his crap and we’ll stop!

Everybody!I don’t care you are on TJ or non TJ side!Please don’t let all the comments/stories make you confuse!Just go to check it out what means by RECEIVERSHIP?or refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Receivership
and the comment by Charlane on 9 August, 2008 at 2:16 am #
Please everybody(Teachers,staffs,members),think about it!This is good or bad for company?
Somebody now come to help us,save TJ ass and make everything become transparency,ITS GOOD OR BAD AGAIN?
Clear up your brain and think about it!
And REMEMBER!NOBODY WANT YZ DIE HERE!
OK?JUST THINK ABOUT IT!!

Dont argue here!Go outside set a ring and battle inside the ring.Dont talk so much!Just only read here no feels.Meet a day go outside.Later you all sure nothing to say.Sigh!Feel boring!

Does anyone have any news on Yfitness in Klang and KK?Is the place still open and operating?

Now TJ got many back up.Maybe is the same person also.Sigh!Feel boring.Lalang balik lu punya tempat makan rumput saja la…Ah Sern dont talk here go outside set ring.U talk here nothing just boring!TJ shoes i think very shine cause have u help him to clean!

Aiya!1 question Ah Sern you buy what wax help TJ clean?So nice!

A Receiver’s obligation is to the appointor, which is usually a debenture holder(mostly financial institutions). Other parties will normally be left out. These people are normally without business experience. In my years of corporate experience I have no knowledge of any companies who have survive under a receivership. This is largely due to the receiver’s lack of business experience, lack of public confidence in a company under receivership and lack of new cash flow. Their job would normally entails looking for a buyer for the business or assets and the proceeds will be paid to the debenture holder. Unless Yogazone has granted a debenture, this may not be a receivership but more of a “writ of Seizure and Sale Order”, I may be wrong. I feel TJ should take drastic action to prevent the action, otherwise lack of public confidence will kill the company. Immediately seek legal advice. If the order is obtained ex-parte, it can be easily cancelled.

Hi,

From what I know from many of my friends, they have loose about rm3000-rm5000 by signing with those massage studio and endup with company close down without informing at all and without even enjoy any of the facility yet. This is call risk when you made a decision of any investment. I know there is risk before I sign the agreement with YOGAZONE 2 months ago to become GC members but Im still signing because I really love yoga. I felt been cheated when I aware of the financial problem of the company in June and has expected will loose the money anytime. But now since TJ saying he will do his best until the last breath, I will believe you for once and forever. I will still patiently wait until end of this month, if teachers still couldn’t get back their salary and members has no class to attends in Sept then only we giveup and looks for places to continue our YOGA with our good teachers at our nearest place.

TJ, pls understand we really tired and not interested to know whats happening in the company, we only interested whether the new investor will takeup and continue the business and at the same time we can enjoy the same benefits. That’s all. Pls start counting, you have only about 21 days to made your final decision. Looks for your good news. Don’t dissapointed all of us. Take care.

Marcus, u may know what is green green yoga but u are still very green in the working world… A lot more to learn..young man!!!

To all members, teacher and staff:

You all have given TJ and his management team many chances to turn the situation around over the last few months but unfortunately nothing has changed. Sadly, the situation remains the same.
Staff are still worrying about their livelihood and their future.
Teachers’ spirits and confidence are still shaken to the core.
Members are still unable to find comfort in a club they used to call their second home.
Is this the status quo that you all want?

I guess, the most fundamental question that we should ask ourselves right now is whether we want this bad dream to continue or are we willing to give somebody a chance to turn things around?

Any changes from the norm is always uncomfortable initially but sometimes inevitable, if we want to move on to better things in life. To discover new oceans, it is inevitable that we have to let go of the comfort of the shore.

There is a wise saying that bad fruits can never come from a tree with good roots. Lay Gaik is an investor, a yoga teacher but more importantly a person with good “roots”.

From my encounters with her, my intuition tells me that she is a compassionate person who genuinely cares about the welfare of the company not only because she has invested a substantial amount of her own hard earned money but also her deep passion for all that yoga embodies.

So I ask all who are reading this, are you truly happy with the the “fruits” that TJ have produced so far? I guess the answer is self-evident.

While I cannot predict the future of YZ as result of the receivership but whatever the outcome is, all I know is that the intention came from a genuine person with good “roots”. Take comfort in knowing that if nothing else.

Lay Gaik needs patience and understanding from everyone in these trying times. For her immense burden of shouldering the responsibility, it is the least that all of us can do for her right now.

Partnership with friends always end up disasterous.
Business splits when it makes money.
Business splits when it loose money.
Only left behind is hate, hater and hatred.

One angry because of trusting friend changed.
One angry because of operation changed.
In this life, there is no absolute wrong or right.
It is about balance.

A business never stays on top forever
An investment never guarantee with handsome return
Perhaps now it is good time to talk
If you still remember you are good friends once

At this point it doesn’t matter should it be 90% or 10%
Helping out will not only benefit both business and investment
But it will lead to a greater respect and sense of belongings
Dedicate it to all those caring teachers, staffs and members

It is time to forgive…

Can anyone tell is TJ ???, telling the truth or what? anyway the due for august is coming to an end and is he doing anything? a lot of people are waiting for the June and July’s pay. Where is it?

Speaking of “karma”, one should know what they did, they’ll have what they get.

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So, if TJ wants short term high profit money. This is what he got.

Thats why so many gyms knew YZ is sometimes too cheap (membership price) to be true.

Its near the mid of august, i hope the teachers and staffs get their pay. You should pity them for not receiving their pay for 2 months now, and now members wanting to claim their membership fees. You see how chain reactions occurs.

Dear TJ, if you still do not want to pay, it will be 3 months for them. They still have to pay their rents, their livings, their insurance, their bills. please do consider.

Your doing things too slow.

EMPTY PROMISES THAT GOT TO WAIT….
1st few days
2nd one week
3rd one month
BUT let’s celebrate merdeka day on 31st Aug first…3 more weeks to go..this is guaranteed.

4th one year or wait and see the sun rise up from the west..

namaste

Marcus,
It’s good to know to got a little bit of sleep last night,but unfortunetely I can predict you will be having sleepless night very soon. Why?? Because if the receivership is true, and you was that hero donkey who try stoping the receiver team from coming into the office then you are mark for dead. It means your career in YZ is over, but frankly to begin with, do you have a career in YZ in the first place? Anyway,if I were you, I better start looking for a job now, trust me they will fired you faster than you can blink your eyes!
Oh BTW, you have a great admirer’LyDm’ in Malacca,do you remember? So just in case you are broke, that LyDm can donate you some Chicken rice ball which you don’t find it in KL! And if I’m not mistaken you will be treated like a King too. Go get a bus ticket to Malacca the next hour marcus, a deal like this is not easy to come by!.

to hamacide,
first to tell you, plz dun insult my dignity by saying that i polish my boss shoes, he suck, as every1 knows, he make empty promise, every1 noes it too, and lots more, but plz dun insult me by saying i was polishing his shoes by a defending word from me for him!
i help my boss because of YZ, i help my boss because i love my job, i help my boss coz i got lots more friend(staff & teacher, Resigned and waiting)who doesnt wish this company goes down and get nothing in the end, i wanna peace down now, yes my comment might be offensive for others, if you are on of it, forgive me, but plz dun insult me for being defensive for my boss, coz as long i am working under him, i cant backstab him coz its not good for me either, its depend on how u wan accept and understand on my behalf, done,
~MY SPEECH OF TRUTH~

Regards,
Namaste

Thanks Nico, for teaching tmr,really love ur class!

Just got in to see what is happening here. can u all practise kindness to each other? Pls “speak” kindly. Whoever is wrong or right doesnt mean that u can b unkind to them. And how do u judge them? Your judgement just define yourself instead of others. It just reflect your personality and character. What’s the point attacking each other here. I see the insanity and unconsciousness of human here. Go back to practise meditation and find peace like AZMI. Just wonder if TJ really settle the debts and pay all those that have been attacking him here and out there , would u all apologise to him??
Lets wait and see.

Dear LangYungSern,
I respect u. I truly admire u 4 your loyalty n your stance for truth. If i have a company, i’ll headhunt u 2 come 2 work 4 me. U have bright future whether YZ is going to survive or not.

Teachers and front desk DESERVED the support, for their untiring spirits to stand-in during this trying time.

Members willingness to help and the right effort to support, is MEANINGFUL and made FRUITFUL if it reach out the INTENDED GROUPS.

Many quarters wish to extend the helping hand if process of fund raised, kept and disbursed is properly CONVINCED, and running towards the GOOD CAUSE.

Transparency is an issue here.

No confidence vote on RM99 vouchers clad the concerns. The self-help drive do not win unanimous support of all albeit its good intention, due mainly loss of confidence from the house.

Restoring Confidence is indeed a challenge.

The fronting issue, as many have highlighted, is to BUY time. YZ/YC need to keep running, to sustain its economical value of the ownership for the interest of members/teachers/staff and the new management, ultimately.

We have seen the retaining teachers/front desk staff are doing the bits, a quarter minority chip-in RM99 vouchers to buy’ hope’, many ‘silent’ majority are keeping on wait-and-see, management ‘trying hard’ to salvage, potential new management ‘working hard’ to check the feasibility of the investment.

We, of various interest groups, are keen to see YZ/YC ride through this period of hardship. Making the legend continues set our passion towards Yoga practice as priority, impending new take over. (not aiming to rescue one’s biz empire, OUR stands is loud and clear)

Attracting all parties including the silent majority to come-in collectively, transparency is the way. Suggest :
- open a joint account , co-signed/managed by one lead member and one lead teacher (members’ rep/trustee be a reputable name, such as Jess/Lay Gaik (members?), many should be comfortable)

- the joint account number may be made known in this webpage (if Jess allowed), avail to all who willing to help, out of goodwill. Any amount and no minimum threshold imposed.

- statement detailing the collection proceeds and expenses (total payroll sum, maintenance cost etc) may be published in this web page (again if Jess allowed) for members’ perusal of inflow/outflow of fund movement once a month, to restore faith and trust of members and encourages participation of the eke out operation.

- the lead teacher to maintain a book for details expenses/payroll record for audit trails.

- funds collected only made towards the interim running operations, taking care of payroll/maintenance of the centres, pending new management. Expenses to co-sign by joint accounts holders, and current management has no hands on the account, strictly managed by member/teacher.

Message to Current Management:
Sincerely hope the current debts-lingering partner be mindful of its duty – actively looking for new buyer and be realistic to “letting go”. Please be considerate for a “national service” to your partners/ teachers/staffs who are still keeping the boat afloat for your on-going negotiation bargains. This is members’ appeal to ensure the contribution, in the interval, made TRANSPARENT and giving us the confidence to support further.

Message to the Potential Investor:
It is a promising industry. A readily clientele base of 15,000 – 18,000 members (no official no) available who some are die-hard members making it 2nd home , and many would revisit within the validity of membership. We have no idea how the previous set running the business but if you are serious in business undertakings, the number of pledge would grow. Good crisis management is the magic wand to golden business opportunity.

Buying RM99 voucher despite the ordeal, voices in the blog and many more gestures – proven the bold initiatives of members participating in the going concern of YZ/YC…..

Message to Members/Teachers/Staffs:
The suggestion to operate an independent account may not be the best remedy but an alternative to RM99 voucher which many have doubted the eventual good use of fund raised and not so-well-received by majority members. If you have better alternative, welcome proposal.

BAFIA act, if not wrong, protecting the privy info of account holder. If account holder is willing, holds no issue. Only concern here is the execution of the account, an independent pro-tem committee consisting members/teachers/staffs (on receiver manager model principle) may be more efficient running, in the interim of transition /new management taking over.

The rise and fall, is obviously concerted efforts of ALL.

No coercion. Constructive inputs appreciate.

“May our practice grows in wisdom, May our lip speaks the truth, May our heart fill with loves and compassion” ……Teacher Darren, thanks for this beautiful sayings in class, is part of my inner strength practice day-to-day.

Tribute to all teachers who had crossed our paths, fellow members and staff force for the perseverance and understandings.

May You Be Well and Happy (growth in mental strength).

Metta/ss

Dear The Weld’s LangYungSern(Joshua),
Can you please stop your so called “dignity” comments or attitude at here?Please read back what you wrote at here,its full of:
i)Pecksniffian/hypocritical
ii)act lamentableners
iii)two faces
iv)antinomy
v)wish to catch sb.’s eye
vi)be mortally afraid of death
vii)flatter yourself
viii)thinks you are always right
viiii)sham
x)bigotry
xi)disgusting and etc…
Actually everyone already knew who you are and suffer enough from your plot against!OK?
YZ got you this kind of staff should feel shameless!If you really wish YZ good then please shut your mouth up and stop your comments at here!Just do your part back!
UNDERSTAND?

i dont want to talk bad, but i want to tell the truth. when i see so many people love some teachers, what yoga mind, bla bla bla, when i heard from plaza damas staff, i totally disagree what stupid yoga body yoga mind is. Dr.Ameen, just stole the skeleton away from YZ damas without infroming any people and scolded YZ damas staff. Lila stole hair dryer away from YZ damas. Azmi the ‘yogi’, arranged classes in YZ damas on his own, and get money from stupid practitioners, you all think he is so great? he only knows how to do poses only la, then might as well you just buy a DVD to learn yourself? what a shame in yogazone. I wont attend any stupid foreign yoga teachers classes already. just know how to pretend pretend, meditating, yoga mind, huh, hah, heh, what yoga la,and oh ya, azmi like to french kiss with MALE staff in the weld outlet, and let staff saw before, what a shame, if want to kiss, kiss at home la, kiss in the yoga centre, not blaming gay, but no kissing yoga ma, why kiss in yoga centre, hah, watch OLYMPIC la.. i know like this not yoga mind, but is 100 trueth.

everyone get back your membership fee as soon as possible, YZ reputation already GONE, I don’t think you guys gonno INVEST in “BROKEN SHARE”, since there is many “GOOD SHARE” outside, why don’t we give ourself another try. YZ….. YAK, I’ve contact you asap, please prepare my money, I have not time to talk with you.

Hey Lalang, apa Ringal di jinjing? To me apa yang you cakap itu semua macam anjing! Hahahahahaha!

This is a crazy and nasty world!!!Tj have been using all the effort he can to salvage the situation,but while he is taking all ways to fight the battle,someone is finding all ways to detect the mistakes.he just asking for august as timeline,but there’s definitely someone finding all the ways to stop him from making it.
yoga zone is an art,by those receiver?
Lay Gaik you can took away Tj’s everything just like this?why???who’s the one who set up YZ???!!!!!

TJ??Oh that guy…Only know give empty promis and pretend nothing happen.LyDm if you really love TJ u should stay beside him take care him.U love him?Are u male or female?Cause TJ…

Yogajess says: It’s late. Go to bed. Be nice to people tomorrow when you wake up as your name makes no different. It sounded like ha mi sai to me.

Hamacide?
are you blind???yesterday i said i love him ve~~~~ry much!!!oh…you don’t understand????
Give you all a chinese sentense:
“?????”???

geng!U really a scorpion king!I know u can did it.yeah.go ahead!If u and TJ married must let whole world know.This is the century news of the world!gong xi gong xi!

one more for those UGLY face:
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LyDm must be a pretty girl.I think shes miss malaysia!Give a scorpion clap!

Oh dear GOD… I guess this is the end. I never knew in the end, it is GOD that was my biggest enemy. No matter how great you are, I guess finally you have proved yourself to be as worthless, non-compassionate and will always and forever be hiding behind that name of yours – GOD. I was very right not to believe and trust you GOD. And I was very happy that I have been proven right. I wish you all the very best. I am a very happy person cos I finally believe the only god in me for the other GOD is such a farce. I am gone. Signed out and will always be in my bliss (although still hungry and still standing for the sake of my mom)… Ok GOD, don’t worry for I will NEVER go back to YOGA ZONE cos it is such a sad and heartbroken place to be. And because of the disparity from GOD, it will forever be a wretched and meaningless place to find peace. Where have all the faith gone to? To GOD? No wonder…
SIgh… How my heart feels to all the deceit and lies… never again. Let me take this opportunity to thank everyone who have arranged for my well-being and looking out for my welfare. Because of you, I still have a roof under my head, light and water in my house and medicine to feed my mom. You guys are truly my angels.
However I think I need to leave YZ and move on. Goodbye to all my supporters (Guess GOD has more though ). I hope to see you in my next journey and future endeavors.
Take good care of yourself and don’t let anyone put you down and push you around, not even GOD. Just put on a great big smile..
Om SHANTI, SHANTI, SHANTI. May there be peace, may there be peace, may there be peace.

i guess my greatest regret was I never get to attend the last classes of jazzlyn and azmi. thank you both for your ashtangga and flow classes. although i’ve stop for half year now due to my back injury, i still prac as normal now (as my back is improving). Namaste and may you be well and happy. Hope our paths will cross again!

nice, since somebody have broken my identity, no use to hide it anymore, anyway, its depend on how u wanna say about me either, and its depend on how u guys wanna accept my theory for it.

i did nothing wrong,and i can get all my members who know me and proof that i am giving the best service, attitude, and satisfaction to them as much i could, its depend how u wanna think i am, i’m done, thx jess for me to comment here…

guess this makes myself will getting lots more phone call because of this kind and big mouth Mr.Best 16 to reveal my identity, y dun u reveal urself too ?
i got no secret behind to keep about, you ?

Seem like our little Joshua getting nervous already?Felt shock why we knew you?Just think back what you did before and how you bad mouth to TJ,members,staffs and teachers!
May be a few members will praise you gave them so called “the best service, attitude, and satisfaction…”,but don’t forget!Others are not stupid as you think!Do you know your nickname “2 faces” so famous between YZ and members?Do you know we knew you got different ID at here?Post few comments bad mouth to members and TJ?We knew but you don’t….
Twice declare,I’m not trying to argue with you here,just ask and wish you behave yourself!Since you “have a clear conscience” and so “dignity”,why don’t just be a silent guardian and protect YZ?Not blazon forth or parade here….know?
Reveal myself?Do you think I need?Be mature.
P/S:I come for peace,thank you!

Hi Azmi, dont pretend and call for God and mum now. Accept what God said as a fact. Why pretend to be a Yogi and gain sympathy for all your benefits as you mentioned. Very shameful of your action. You can deny but God knows……. I dont expect your reply but to get out of sight as I hate the existence of the “so call” yogis like you.

I am not going to waste my time disputing if Azmi is righ or wrong with anyone in this blog bcos I am looking at both side of the coin. For any well wisher who want to protect or defend Azmi, you may by exercising your own rights but to me, its pure “justification”.

Hey, we’re attacking the wrong people here!! Let them go, have they done anything to hurt you??

LyDm, just shut your TOOT mouth and now start to write in chinese pula! Today write bahasa then tomorrow in tamil la! Love TJ …..ya right! he doesn’t need a lover like you as he has got so many everywhere already. What he needs now is another shoe polisher like you! Jacka**!

Just 1 week of August, so many people urgent to see yogazone close,so many bad mouth. Will yogazone close business as what they expect ???

ALL THEinsane people ARE here .better don visit this site AGAIN

I’ve been reading this blog this few days but I can only see people talking about YZ.Yfitness is also under the same boss,right?Did anything happen to Yfitness?

Also,I found out another blog written by another yoga teacher who had resigned from YZ,she used to teach at Cheras too.
http://www.yoganborneo.blogspot.com

Just got some news that YZ Group is not paying those teachers who have conducted some Teacher Training Courses in Yogazone…..In some situation, the certificate was not release to the people who attended the course….Pity.
I guess what T.J promises….(Does anyone know how many promises he made????) are all lies….he can tell the media that all teachers paid are settle but when you check with all teachers around, they all said nothing at all……Playing hide and seek game in YZ Group….???
By the end of 31 of August, I m in doubt there is any different in the situation compare to the last few weeks…teachers/ staffs pay are still not ou etc…..If there is/ are better opportunities out there better pack and go. Good Luck!

oh ? me ? 2 faces ?yeah, u got it damn right, i got 2 face,as what you like to think i am lidat, then think, its your own decission to think how i am,

if you say i got more den 1 identity here, sorry man,NO WAY!, i was starting comment under this name and until now, u can call jess check wheather my IP is true or not, why i wanna comment under alot other names ?

cmon, if i wanna post bad comments, do i need to still struggle here ?

oh ? you are matured so u dun need to reveal? oh its ok, maybe coz i still not matured enough, so u gotta reveal my identity out, i dun mind, u dun need to, coz u arent here for peace, u are here to make everything goes worst!

if i goes back to my outlet, i sure many question marks will goes around when the member saw me…do you think what you do is a matured way ? gosh think on behalf if you are revealed by sum1 else too, and see how u react,

1 more time i say, I DUN MIND WHAT U WANNA DO, I AM JUST DOING WHAT I CAN AND SAVE MY WORK!

Everyone, Jess set this blog up for everyone to discuss how we could understand the YZG condition better and save our yoga center. This is not the place to bad mouth anyone, therefore if you do not have anything good or constructive to say, please reverse those comments to yourself. No personal attacks here please.

YogaJess says: I think they don’t understand english. *cheesie*

Good News!I heard TJ say 2ml we have a new buyer!YZ got hope lliao!!

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 11:02 am #
i don’t think you are able to laugh for days to come. OF-COURSE it wont be my last and there’ll be more to come by looking at what’s happening to you now! Next 6 months, hahahaha! what a joke! there’ll be no 6 months for you, Con -man!

uglykid,
you are not lay gaik’s side?Yeah,you must be the god then,but not possible,cause god is definitely not UGLY,and furthermore not a KID,i just imagine,you are ugly since kid,don’t grow up and freak out the society,when you become adult,sure UGLIER!
Do good to the future generation and drink Listerine to kill yourself now!!pesticide also can;i pity those students who joined your class before,if they know who you are,sure vomit!!!And also,hello!We are customers and you are the worker la,if we don’t pay fees,you eat yourself la!sorry…sorry…wrong…wrong…wrong…eat your shit!!!wa…ha..ha…ha..!
i decided not to buy ‘LG’ electrical products anymore,don’t want the ‘receivers’ to come into my house!!!

And also,’uglykid,if mine is TOOT mouth,yours must be TOOT x 1000…times mouth!
Nickname also so weird,uglykid,uglikid,uglykid..yak!i’m stepping on a piece of shit!!!!

And also,uglykid,if mine is TOOT mouth,yours must be TOOT x1000…times mouth!!!nickname also so weird, uglykid.uglykid,uglykid…yak!!!i’m stepping on a piece of shit!!!!

LyDm,please stop ur war k?
Dear yogajess,do u mind spam LyDm?
Wish no war here again,please.

YogaJess says: LyDm started out as a nice person. Don’t know why suddenly she want to find fault with Uglykid. Nope, not going to spam her. If I were to do that, Uglykid will need to be in the spammer box too cos both of them is equally irritating now. Just need to pretend they are invisible. That way, you will be happier

Dear Lang Yung Sern/Joshua, thanks for being so courteous, polite and friendly all this while despite the current state of affairs at YZ (and despite hearing complaints from members like me, before I knew what was happening to YZ). It is because of people like you at YZ that many have now called YZ their second home. Do keep up the good work! Quoting drsu’s words somewhere in this blog – Release yourself from the need to defense all the attacks that u received. To those who attacked u, every defense will be perceived as an attack. Then u will attract more attacks. That is really a waste of your energy in negative way. Just center yourself in your vision and your mission and focus all your energy in what u promise u would do, u will progress better and faster. Appreciate everything and everyone in your life eventhough some of them may appear to b hostile and unfriendly. Defenselessness is true strength.

Dear TJ,

There’s a notice at Yogazone Kepong stating that you will be meeting up the members today @ 12pm.
Nevertheless the attack that you are facing, at least the mind set and the strength that you have all this while has encouraged some of the teachers/members/staffs to believe in believe.

It will be an honor to meet the man who still stand strong after all this attack. Hope to see you if you are meeting up the members again or you will be back for teaching.

Dear teachers, no matter what is happening behind, you still show your professionalism in teaching. Thank you so much.

LyDm, Dun talk so much anymore la. Go back to the office and start polishing yr Con boss’ shoes and be his pet! Ya TJ is the one who started YZ but he’s also the one that drag it into the shit hole and it ended up like this!!! Comes to think of it why shouldn’t it be as YZ now is full of incapable staff in the management and people like you who is just full of SHIT! Din want to see the whole picture and decided not to know the truth! Worst still is to ask people to keep quiet, BURIED THE TRUTH and not to bad mouthed YZ> People here deserves to know what’s goin on and not all the lies and acting that TJ and his pets are trying to put up! YZ needs to be cleaned up and get rid of everyone in the office and shitty pot like you who only know how top BLA BLA BLA and jump at people whenever you read something that you dun like! Go back to yr grave and buried yourself with the lies and SHIT!

Dear uglykid.
I think Tj doesn’t need anymore shoe polisher. He got too many people polishing his shoe until to the point his shoes also Koyak already. what he needs now is someone a FAT bank account to be his next victim.

uglykid, Dun talk so much anymore la. Go back to the office and start polishing yr nasty lady boss’ shoes and be her pet!!!
talk about karma,hahahahaha…..until now you still didn’t get your salary,right??hahahaaa….THIS IS YOUR KARMA!!!!wahhhaaaa…
hey,go those streets and lanes polish shoe with people la,you may get some pity pocket money to survive!!!

Kepong today meeting with members and TJ is running smoothly. Most members seems very support to these family team. We will pray together to look for good news on Monday annoucement. TJ, you have to try and work harder to get things done. All the members will fully support at the back.

if you are what you said, do not want yz dead, then stop blogging here. the more often you comment based on false/baseless/no concrete proof, you are only twisting the story here. when a 3rd party reads it, they will be misleaded.

langyungsern: mentioned that you realised many here are 2faces or 2snakehead, are you saying yourself too. if you are concern/cares about everyone, members or staffs or ex-staffs/teachers or teacher etc please dont try to act or be great here. you are twisting every story here. when you joined yz, some observed that you have attitude problems. no teamwork, no loyalty, no sense of responsibility. mc without proper paperwork/inform office. late for work. ignorant. we at hq knows your every moves. you want others to know? that you have good times playing games at work despite countless gentle advice from superiors who given you many chances and not giving warning letter which looks bad on your employment record? wear inapporiate attire at work and not our yz uniform, whereby a dissatisfied member took a picture with their handphone and postposted on their blog? lazying around? badmouth your own colleagues when you are not doing what you suppose to? that the way you carry yourself in the outlet is not up to par? when everyone else including the cleaners is doing their best, working, not showing off- they work without people noticing their stress, like invisible. my advice on that, go to a 5 stars hotel or kpmg, see how they carry themselves, never argue in the presence of customers/public.

please dont tell others here to use their brain/matured thinking when you are so naive and childish. hq has staffs to visit outlets occasionally, and i notice that when customer give feedback/complaints which is easily solved, but you dont attempt to solve it. instead, pass it to your superiors. you wont learn anything in life if that’s what you do. so, shut up and dont tell everyone that your outlet, weld is the worst! oh yes, everyone look down on them! ask ms ayu, ms mikee, ms lian, mr zamri, ms efa, ms azlin, ms doreen, mr shafiq, ms kityeng, mr najib, ms junaidah, ms ashly, ms emiza. how humiliating. and yes, weld is worst in terms of sales, and everyone gives them the applause for that since the opening. slowly many resigned. but those who dedicated their lives/times there, knows how to deal with it by providing much better, friendlier, sincere, outstanding services compared to other outlets. weld has go through many kinds of hardship even before the opening i.e. delay of opening which leads to high numbers of customer complaints to dealt with which is not their own outlet customer but signed up from other very profitable outlets like cheras, kepong, sri petaling, damas, puchong. and yet, weld staffs handle them with all effort. the ‘old teams’ group together even by means of working more than 15 hours a day without OT or recognition or 24hrs on call. organise events (ms ashly, ms ayu) with hq: stay till late, turn up early the next day for preparation and yz can definately count on them if one down, someone back up. distribute flyers (mr zamri and ms lian) on foot in the hot afternoons all around town area when hq didnt assist them that when they came back to the outlet covered in sweats, dirts and dusts. that’s teamwork- they dont jeopardise the good relationship built, they share the joy and blames together at outlet level. members knows who they are because they see them every single day thinking yz torture them without giving them day off. did anyone knows that weld customer service was so good that even members spread the words to others. they make the place into a happy home for everyone to look forward to coming everyday. make members even walk-ins feels warm and comfortable. that’s why some members appreacite/loves them so much that they treat the staffs with foods, souvenirs, gifts even offer them jobs!

weld services is totally different from other outlets, much better though the place is small. it is to the extend that the hq ex-manager esther choo voiced out to other outlets to follow their excellent customer services, their foot steps. they treat each other like family despite harsh words from others about their sales figure. so dont ever critise the ‘old teams’, they do everything ‘1 leg kick’ including moving furnitures, changing light bulbs, watering the plants, scrubbing the toilets, and not saying ‘oh that’s not my job’. they knows the company inside out from A-Z. how much you know compared to them mr langyungsern? they are one of the most valuable assets in yz, including the teachers. when they left (many with financial burden), their last words to many is, help to look after the weld because the remaining 3staffs(exclude the indonesian) are inexperience in handling/dealing with difficult customers and lack of sales experience too (lazy). some thing are to be share with members, some are for internal usage/understanding.

watch what you inform members. outlet levels did they job and do follow up but in some cases which has been passed to hq are on hold/delay because the person in charge left withour proper handovers and are now pending. if you do not know the whole case, dont assume and tell customer of your naive assumption. call hq to find out/assistance. dont tell our members to shut up or scolding or complaints, those are valuable advice/input. without their support, yz never existed and you wont have such a laid back job. it is those ‘input’ that gives us a clear picture in understanding them and improve/provide better services to them -which leads to satisfaction which leads to MGM which leads to improve sales in the near future! the many ‘old staffs’ realised that the above equation works and has been doing that ever since. you see….. the ‘old dog’ learn. trial and error. not sit and being spoon-feed like you.

this is a harsh world. not all will give 100% support to us. but we can do our best, pray for the best, and let our kind and respected members to decide: to continue to support and help us overcome the darkest moments or not. also means, mr joshua go do your job, have you learn all the company’s products and able to provide proper guidance/information/knowledge to members/prospects correctly and adequately? NO! you only know when facing problems, refers to your superiors/hq. i.e. like the retreat case. and tell members a twisted entirely different story. so, look at the future not dwell on the past and stop blogging at office/working hour. be a team player. understand that mr joshua boy??? btw, please put your handphone volume on silent or vibrant when you are at the front desk. that’s 1 of the rules, remember??? and 1 more thing, if you want to show off yoga postures, do it in the studio/your house, not near the main entrance where public can see
especially our nice next door neighbour. not professional la.

thanks to our yz/yc members. kindly forgive us for any discomfort that we may have brought. please give us, yz a chance to learn from our mistakes and improve.

it’s beijing 2008 now, lets learn from yz mistakes, our mistakes and be like china. be united. if we stick together, we can revive yz. i dont know when but i pray for that moment. read the world history, when everyone look down on china, they ignore it. focus on rebuiding their once very strong empire. china has everthing and needs nothing from the west. but the west wants everything that they break the country apart. leaving the country suffering and poor for many generation. those hardship times experience by our ancestor was never easy. but now, look at them, in disasters, they react quick in teamwork. they give their best and make beijing 2008 one of the most significant and awesome event ever in the history. i noticed many commented that united we stand, divided we fall. agree with them.
to help yz, stop blogging here about yz because it will only make the situation worst.

hai!!i am kepong member,but didnt attend the meeting…can anyone tell me about the meeting?any great news from TJ? izzit monday still have yoga class?coz the timetable still not come out yet,i quite worry…

yes,completely agree!BIG FAT account,with the ‘ugly people’ around,trying all her ways to piss off investors to please her lady boss,so that the robbers of the house,can kick the original owner out,and they become the hosts!
where’s the law???if like this,i would be the first invest lor,still wait the ‘LG’ brand?i suddenly think of a word ‘conspiracy’!10% owner,ex-staff,’budak hodoh’,very strange.
everything happened since malacca YC,and non-stoppingly with all the news like HongKong drama,is it well planned?who’s the head leh?is ‘conspiracy’ a criminal case or not leh?
Don’t say that i simply accuse people oh,i’m just thinking.

oh yes. sometime ago, i help out at weld for some events. i realise 1 more difference in weld compared with many other fitness/health centres, i remember that there is no such thing as position/ranking. WHY? because cleaners can sometimes help out at the reception counters besides cleaning; front liners can sometimes do consultations/cleaning/assist managers; consultants can sometimes hold outlet key to open outlet when the ‘keyholder person’ MIA/cleaning/definitely have to help out at front counters; managers sometimes have to do everything!
geezz.. no wonder the self-center, lazy-bum, suka twist story punye MR JOSHUA love his job la.
when everyone is busy working, trying not to create such a fuss in the outlet so there will be peace despite rumours from north/south/east/west, do your job for you also: you just ‘ngan ngan kiok’ (dudukkkkkkkkkk sahaja, use company phone cakappppppppp sahaja, main online gamesssssss sahaja, facebookkkkkkk sahaja)

Dear LyDm,can you please just stop the nonsense?Thank you.
LangYungSern(Joshua),if you really don’t mind please stop replying and contesting here ok?
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Do you mind show which sentence or words I wrote to make everything become worse?I just tell the truth and we just want the truth only!
UNDERSTAND?

Understand there is class on Monday but pls call and check before you go. I realise Yoon has class in Cheras today if I am not mistaken. I hope he will back to teach us at Kepong as well. Yoon, we all miss your class. Welcome back to see you.

its a compliment to d teachers when d practitioners still wan 2 pay them when they can get free classes at YZ

Im not a member of YZ nor i practise yoga but my mom goes 4 yoga at YZ and ever since she’s been very happy and look so much younger.
Going for yoga also brought my mom n her sis much much closer than b4.
Yoga is really for the body, mind, soul and actually for family too.
Y must u all go on rambling about the bad things when all u have to do is embrace yoga as a healthy lifestyle.
Stop all this critising.
Its not doing any1 any good n is just gonna make every1 angry.
It doesnt make sense.
Y go to all the trouble to create problems?
I just dont get it.
Support the people hu are doing good for yoga, teachers n practitioners.
Understand that yoga is for relaxation n for the peace of mind.
Dont get all heated up.
For now, we have to think of a way to get back what we have lost.
A place where we can go to release our stress,
A place where friendships are made and ties are strengthen,
A place where every1 is welcomed,
Basically, a sanctuary.

Out of your “Best 16?15?13?”,
i talking nonsense???I just want to tell the truth!!!!
UNDERSTAND?????
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oh dear, can we have a list where our beloved instructor gone? i miss all of them, not including their classes, but also their patient in ‘teaching’ the student what is yoga/pilates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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As far as i’m concern about this serious issue, i’m still fazed about the whole situation of what is right and what is wrong.

Can anyone give me some clear views on how can the poor teachers and staffs and workers survive?

I’m basically not a fan for TJ but I’m very concern of my welfare for my teachers and fellow staffs of YZ Yfitness and YC.

The war in this comment section is really bullshit and its a cock and bull fight. Yes, everyone is very fumed with how TJ worked and do. His ideal and motto is very wrong. If he were to expand the ideology of Yoga, then i guess he might just open and teach the class free?

But everyone have to survive. So fees are included, okay, so where is the pay for the teachers? they still have to survive, no?

This is not about supporting him or not supporting him. basically any excuse TJ give to me is not an excuse. What if ur in the staff’s shoe. Suppose to be working and get paid but in the end not paid for so long? How would u feel.

For the members, i know you pay to learn and enjoy yoga. Everyone is hurt. The root cause is still TJ.

Okay, okay.. i know there is a huge fan of TJ here. But don’t shoot me. I’m being rationale and reasonable. You cannot just support him like that. There is no action being taken. How long has this been going? Since April right?.. and now its August. So what do you think? Is it still correct to idolize him or say i support you?

If you support him? then you should find ways for him to get money or donate him some money so he could pay the poor teachers and staffs who worked their asses off in this company with blood and sweat.

I’m kinda upset of you guys fighting with each other while TJ is just preaching his good deeds and about Karma and his Yogi-nism. If he were to practice a Yogi way and he is a good person. He wouldn’t just delay the pay to his fellow workers.

Isn’t it logic enough to clear everyone’s mind?

Don’t waste time here to quarrel with each other. I know there is two kings (TJ and ‘the fellow poor teacher and staffs who are mad at him at the moment’) and one of them must crumble.

Hopefully dearest TJ will give me a good reply about his resolution. Selling his shares to the new management and not paying the previous payment (i’m now talking about June and July since he has promised in the media he is trying to settle the May payment to everyone but what about June and July?) to his fellow staffs is unforgivable and I’m worried he will do it like that. Furthermore, i would reckon that the new management wouldn’t pay the June and July’s pay to the teachers and staff once they take over. why should they pay? right?.

I do not know about TJ’s conspiracies. But, i’m just praying for the best for everyone, members and the staffs, hopefully the staffs and teachers really get their money to pay their bills and rents, whilst the members could resume their yoga moves.

Yoga, is just yoga. Claiming it purifies your mind when your doing poses doesn’t helps. Sincerity and Love through actions are what you should practice in real life. Yoga is just an exercise which reminds you the quality in life and to remind what you are in the complicated world.

Namaste! ??????

SEE….?Mr Joshua?I said I’m not the only person who knew your “crimes”,somebody was agree with me and many people were know your “reality”!Of course you still can choose to chicanery for yourself but just worry about it’ll get the opposite effect?
Listen what I said to you before,just do your own part,ok?You are too young and fresh to this community.If someone try to give you the chances to let you correct yours mistakes,just accept it but not frivol it,some more be further intensified….all just will make you be disgusted with others!
Do you understand?Thank you.

I just read about the receivership and understanding the aspect of it, I certainly felt relief that it has come to this stage. Receivership is not a bad thing after all. At least at the end of the whole exercise, there is a solution.

Furthermore, if we hang on with the present situation with TJ’s endless empty promises, letting us down week after week, months after months is equally devastating for us teachers.

TJ’s press publicity gave the impression that he had a new management and was fighting for the members to be honoured by them and settling our May salaries. He clarified that the press misreported settling May salaries. I suppose he would not have clarified if the teachers have not approached MCA to arrange a meeting with him to explain on the May pay and bounced cheques. He would just conveniently keep quiet about the false publication and take us teachers for granted.

Furthermore, he is the outcome of the company’s current situation so why is he playing “tai chi” by given the impression to the members and public that he is trying to help the company?
Todate, we still can’t tell which is the truth and which is not the truth. He plays both the angel and the devil. We are confused, frustrated and tired!

We really hope TJ will stay out and let a trustable party takeover once and for all.

Another new buyer? So many buyers? Or all ‘buyers’ are belong to one person????

People…please stop attacking uglykid or anyone here….we all should address the issues to existing owner and not attacking each othere in here. This blog are meant for discussing issues and voice out opinion and not having some war again any individual.

Guess the outstanding issues yet to be resolved are:-

a] all teachers outstanding salaries
b] staffs/ terminated staffs salaries + commissions
c] members fees and those keep on asking when can get back their memberships $$$

Hope Mr.T.J know what he is doing.

No one needs to be the fans of Tj in order to be the fans of YZ.Tj is respected to establish YZ but not to manage YZ;he also mentioned very clearly that he’s a business creator but not the business operator(refer to The Star);and also,if a person admitted his own mistake,why can’t we put ourselves into his shoes also?(don’t attack me for anti-Tj group)
yes,an employee shall expect their salary after working so hard;if i’m a business man,i also expect profit;if i don’t get salary as an employee,i will leave;if i’m running a business with so much debts,i will closed down the company cause it’s ’sdn bhd’,why should Tj buy time when knowing there’s no chance/hope?the longer he drags,the more expenses he has to pay;he said for August he will settle the matter,but this LG purposely kill YZ immediately then everybody will say again “TJ RUINED YZ”,yang LG is hero!Is that fair?if i am TJ,i will be very happy with receivership,cause he can be a free man and no need to take care of we all,why he’s still trying his best?
a company is not only run by one person,it’s the team.Come on!why the management got only one person that come out and apologize?i believe there are many others scared to face us so they resigned(luckily they are not the founder of YZ).how about LG?a director of the company must face the problem together what?why she just finish off YZ and we all are happy?
aiyo,you think the receivers are Ernst & Young meh!Refer to what Marcus wrote about the receivership and how he describe them,like gangster,someone wants to break the door,do you think they can run YZ?
i’m not supporting Tj,i’m just supporting YZ,but at this moment if Tj die,YZ will not have future.Yoga business not easy to do leh…where got managers with 5 years yoga-relevant-working-experience?if you can find,must be ex-YZ staff.if yoga business is new,of course got trial and error,and if the boss is trying his best to make it right,we,as members,money already paid;and you,staff still working now and ex-staff,why not giving full support at this moment?because i just want to make sure my money won’t wasted and masuk longkang.Ex-staff also,if owe us and never want to pay us,bad;if owe us and run away,worse;if owe us,want to pay but no money to pay and finding way to pay-not good,but no bad also la.if you are ex-staff or ex-teacher,you also will apply for another job soon,if your working record has YZ and if at that time YZ is no more,are you proud of it?
At the moment,i care about YZ,so i support Tj;if next time better person take over,i will forget about TJ.
Sorry,Tj,i support you with this intention only.

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i like this comment….hope all human have positive thinking….

Waiting the news end of August 2008!Hope all the problem will settle!

Namaste!

I am a yogaclub member and I’ve been following this blog for sometimes…

I think everyone has their right to voice out their opinion, however, please do not over your own limit…

Speak like a real man/ woman, tell the truth you know, do not pin point anybody.

Of course, as a member, you may feel sad, frustrated and angry after paying few thousands but you couldn’t enjoy the class, so may be some of you are buying the RM 99 voucher because you want to help and you feel comfortable to help and for some of you, may be you feel it is a burden to pay the RM 99.I think it doesn’t matter if you think you are not affordable and you don’t want to buy it, nobody will scold you.

For the YZ and YC staff who still work until this moment, you must have your own reason and I think you still believe TJ will keep his promise, therefore until now, you are still protecting him and you still support him.

For Lay Gaik, may be you have your facts here that you want your investment not to go down to deep shit, so, just do whatever you can in a legal way.

For TJ, congratulations that until this moment, you are still trying to solve the problems but please don’t forget all your promises.

For all YZ and YC teachers, thank you for still giving classes at this moment. I think all members will appreciate what you all did.

I lost my money too but I’m thinking positively. I would have use my money in some other useless activity if I don’t sign up the membership and I seldom attend the classes this year because of my busy work. I feel that I would like to have the refund too, however, with current situation, even the staff and teacher were not paid for 2-3 months, do you think YZ and YC will pay you back the money???

Let us just voice out our own opinion, not to quarrel here with any other bloggers and members, it is no use at all. After all, I am sure that you guys just wanted to express your feelings.

Please don’t feel hard with my words here. I apogize if my words makes you feel uneasy…

After all, sleep early, wake up early, practice yoga at home and feel peaceful all the time, may GOD bless everyone here who read the blogs, write the blogs and may GOD bless all members, teachers and staffs of YZ and YC…zzz…GOOD NIGHT!

Dear Jess,
sorry,today i out of control.just can’t stand anymore…

Dear TJ,
I’m also one of the YZ teachers who have not been paid for the last three months and can wait no longer as TJ, you have given us too many, many empty promises. Please, I beg you, beg you again, please do step aside and let the Receiver comes in as soon as possible to give us a legal, truthful solution and a way to save Yoga Zone since it is an order from the High Court of Malaysia!

Dear Teachers,
Hope all of you will come forward to support the Receivers for at least they can do something positive rather than wait for so many, many months when TJ always promise us but never seem to keep his promises!!! It is time for a change for the better! Even though he claims that there is a potential buyer, but who is there left to help TJ, since all his good Management Team has left YZ already. So, please, please support the Receivers so that they can bring YZ back to a good shape again so that at least there is a good chance and hope for us to get our salary back!

Dear Members,
Please also trust, believe and support the Receivers to do their legal job to save YZ so that you all can continue to have your happy “Second Home” again!

Dear Staff,
Please also believe and give your trust and fullest cooperation to the Receivers to help get YZ back to be a place where you enjoy working like before.

Dear Everyone,
Please, please do understand that the Receivers are not there to “finish off” YZ but they are appointed by the High Court to legally help and give YZ at least a chance and last hope to recover and continue to serve its members, which I believe is what everybody wants!

Namaste!

i wont deny that some of the act i have done cause myself to receive a warning and etc etc, but one more word on what you are mentioning, plz, see how they work before you shoot a single word on me.
yes i might been seen not matured enough to survived in this harsh world but mind your word about, Shake my leg and let other do the work, coz members can see how is my working result at the end of visit to our outlet.
yeah i might been doing something i am not suppose to do like online or chat on the phone long, but do i practise it lots either?(and plz dun take the superior in my outlet to compare with your reports, coz they got their cons too.)
if you are getting so much idea on how i am doing my job(who noe u might are one of us last time,or u are really management staff)den, come shoot me face to face, i am still and employee, u as management staff got the power to call me change, and i am willing to change too, just come face to face.
meanwhile, if u are not concern on how member thought on the 3superior of mine, u can ask the members on what their comment about them, i dun deny i got bad comment too, coz different eye, different expectation, different results.
1 more thing is, dont debate with me on my punctuality, my responsibility toward my work, u might can straightly come over weld here,and see how is my performance.
HQ MY ASS,do u even gimme a confirmation after my 3 month of working period,and 1 more thing, do u onli hear on what the superior says ? den u get the wrong stuff man,if i am late for my work always, come and tell me when that happen, i am always early for my shift(except i am late due to morning shift and train problem, but i did make call to inform before i am really late for it, and this call responsibility PLZ!)compare to the superiors, u might gotta recheck again.

another thing about the retreat stuff, y dun u check on how they are giving the answer before u saying its my god-damn-fault of not attending it good ?
plz ask the member on the detail of this superior good work before i gotta handle it. if u cant get it, ask me instead.
yeah, continue to kill me here, so i got no more face to go back Weld, but be remind,do you know what we know about the 3 superiors until they are “lost” from Weld ? the answer remain under ur damn brain, and think about it, instead on saying, do ur work, BOY!

Sorry i just care on my member on their schedule and update them everynight if i can, while i am busy on my own schedule along this leave,unlike u management, if u dun like me and bcos i having this bad attitude, fired me(but call me so i dun need blind blind come work again ya?)
and meanwhile if you cant, STFU and do your work, not comment on me!
i got my foot stable on the ground, u wanna hit down my confidence, if u did, i am lost long while ago.(dun challenge me in this matter, i am more tough than you think i do!)

members, u can evaluate me by your eyes,
staff, think what you trust from me,
but 1 word,dun brain-wash other and ruin my reputation, like what “iwishyz168″ just did.

to Out of your “Best 16?15?13?”,
yes i can stop commenting now, coz everything gotta be clear by now, this will be my last “Defence” Comment, i wont make it after this,like what endah(Weld) always says, Peace…

Regards,
Namaste

dear Joshua,
my believe in you, dare to voice out, face the public and with gutts. Good energy! Continue to work if receivership comes in, that’s ethic. I’m not your boss anymore, we can still be friends , though you’re much younger, I respect you. Respect doesn’t come in the package, it’s meant to be gained, I’m proud of you.

Everyone has their emotions,we are all made of flesh and blood,YC@malacca was once like my second home,but now name changed and no more YC,the same owners maybe do the same business,that’s yoga.I can forsee many of the teachers must be looking for places now to set up their own yoga centre,however,there’s only one rule,YZ has to close down first,then only they can have the chance.How can YZ goes down?Yes,only one way,eliminate TJ.However,thou i didn’t do yoga for some time,i can understand yoga principle better.why i respect the one who started YZ?Cause without this person,nothing will be happened,how many of us take YZ as the first avenue to nurture our yoga interest?if without YZ,will there be Yoga Conference Malaysia?Be thankful.I don’t know how much a teacher earns,but i know that lots of them are young and can earn up to 5-6k,why never appreciate this fabulous career?if for me,i will focus like the teachers that are still teaching now.
Yes,i hate the Tj that gives empty promises,but he always admitted and apologized when he coudn’t materialized the promise.i know that i have learn something today,’sorry’ and ‘thank you’;uglykid,sorry if i offended you,my deepest apology;Jess,thank you,for not spam me and giving me a chance to be a better person.
Everyone deserves a second chance.

What is happening this today? I was in YZ cheras today and all talking about the court case…. close YZ…. bla bla

We already paid so much $$ and even purchased the 99 voucher to support…. at last this all happen… is unfair for members.

I really think the YZ is sick … and all the politic between TJ, teacher & share owner.

Please think about our member benefit. Be Fair!!!!

As a member, I just wish to continue practice yoga in YZ… simple…

To ‘teacher’,
Yes,there will be a solution,maybe you will get your full pay and maybe just partial;how about members?
Normally they clear epf,socso,employees salary first,then loan bankers,then the long time creditors;how about members?
As ‘teacher’,of course you are employee,so you are the first one to get the money,how about us?Will the receivers refund to us?what if we don’t want to refund and we want to continue yoga classes?
The receiver going to operate the business and teach us yoga?if yes,i will hang myself.If no,then must be existing YZ teacher to teach for them.Then what’s the difference between now and future?
Yes,there’s one,TJ is eliminated,but i know that TJ said he already wanted to leave when everything settled,then again,what will be the difference,a great possibility that LG becomes the new boss.It’s only my presumption,i just think that if i am Tj,how will i feel after this?

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you are not a Malacca ‘PRATICTIONER’.

Notice no more lunchtime classes at all outlets today. Also no one answering the phones. Will try attend this evening class and see any news cos no one seems to be giving any updated news on this blog. Just complaints and more complaints. Does that mean our RM99 also going into longkang??

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ignorant, arrogant, wicked joshua (langyungsern), people teach you, direct you, but you ignore and challenger back instead of clarifying or thanking, isn’t this already an attitude problem/misbehave?
you thought hq wants to keep you? call you and advice in a stern way of your attitude problem? superiors doesnt see themselves as superiors but as a collegues putting away the ranking and decided to give you gentle reminder but i see you were ignorant and rude. your acting must be very good huh? can switch mode to be so soft, so polite and *click* so furious, so means to people. hk drama school acting drop out ? your confirmation was put on hold at last minute when non-yz staffs complaint of you. like other company, your company will review when the time comes and inform you of the confirmation status BUT you on the other hand, pandai-pandai, very rudely and arrogantly with raising voice and disrespectful tell your colleagues to confirm you and must be transfer to kepong outlet. would you like to hear the recording of the conversation of you being rude and loud? why not try doing that in a big MNC corporation and see what action would the hr dept do?
it is the 3superiors that has been backing you, irregardless of how you mistreated them and give everyone hard times showing all the pissed off faces. please ask yourself truthfully & GOD, did you really punctual at ALL times? don’t blame the train/transport etc. you call once a while when other times, NO. can teachers blame transport i.e stay kajang teaches in klang? they plan their time well by getting up earlier, and apologise to everyone if they are late. the weld building has plenty of cctvs. no one needs to report to us, we can check. you see, certain people “GET LOST” in another word resigned with proper paperwork with one month notice as stipulated in agreement, do it slowly and silently without telling out loud to the entire world, hoping it won’t affect anyone and make a big hu-ha out of it. many resigned are simply too tired especially when at work trying to help yz to hold its head before it submerge and drown being attack with words from customers because of false promises by ex-ggm BUT still have to deal with a childish and betrayal collegues, joshua. so, now only you try to ‘behave punctual/act polite’ when some of the ‘old teams’ left? wow that means before they ‘GET LOST’, you reallyare that bad, dishonorable and corrupt. Which also means their departing is good that is changes you to a better one now (just a bit only i guess ,but still sinful). btw, your still not yet “GET LOST” colleague that you speak of, Ms Endah also happens to be cannot tahan of your dishonest, disobidient, wicked and immoral behaviour.
cases will resolved when everyone do their part (teamwork), however, when someone MIA i.e. your reference to the swipe card transaction and bali retreat case that you emphasise on, steph and the head of a/c went MIA, everything stuck. so of course customer only deals with outlet presume outlet didnt do their work in assisting. why you want to make colleagues look bad? so members/public see you as an angel? you want position? everyone who can work well/run the weld well already left. what you did and still doing is devilish. look yourself in the mirror, think about it. you just keep bad mouth, twist the story and challenges anyone that doesn’t give you what you want and do everything your way- reason: you are one JEALOUS freak.
any person who knows you / read your comments can easily know. you are slapping yourself here (hit your own mouth in chinese).
btw, we met. i guess i must be doing it very discreetly, silently and ‘get lost’ style that you didnt notice my presence. OH WAIT, may be you are busy doing what you are not suppose to i.e. busy improving your online games skills( oh that’s very important in life, god, please forgive me for not doing that?) which also causes the computer to be affected by virus. no need to do paperwork or make service/phone calls? SPOT CHECK!
would you like me to call and arrange for all the weld ‘old teams’ which includes the people that you called bad 3 superiors and teachers to testify. august 2006-august 2008, i know each and everyone of the weld colleagues. probably you already brain wash everyone, that’s what you like to do right. time and patience will tell, members. try his patience la. you will detect many indications that he’s a LIAR with no sense of teamwork at all.
the real god, why? be nice and gentle with someone like joshua can in turn being back stab and betrayed. teach, no thank you, no listen. ok never mind. but always want to rebel and challenge and threaten back. sigh, teachers i think you’ll understand better here la. watch out tj boss, he said he supported you but cannot back stab you cos no good for him? but he thinks you sucks.

we are not blind. we watch everyone, don’t worry.
i have been very patience all this while, now i’m furious. everything has a limit ok. ’shoot’ is no good cos you won’t listen, we prefer advice. you are a waste of time here. you can either do your job professional by not badmouth anyone from our company or just take a hike (means LEAVE in PEACE!!!)

btw, when you ask people/public not to insult you, did you remember that you are the one who started to insult many others in the first place. talk A, do another B. nasty.

endah, please teach him PEACE

TO ALL YZ MEMBER

just come back from cheras branch understand that there will be a peace petition held at 1.30 pm todays in front of high court which organised by members teachers and front dest staff of yz because once the court approve the receivership yz will have to stop operation immediately.

PLEASE COME AND SHOW YR SUPPORT

Can somebody give a true and correct explanation of receivership. What is receivership ? We seem to get different views from different people. Any professional who can help ? accountant, lawyers ?? I think most of us know really know and understand this fully, only bits and pieces here and there. namaste

Yoga is about balance,that’s why i have to see things from both sides of you,mlk practitioner.i won’t want to be an extremist like others because i don’t want to be spam by Jess.
no one is perfect in this world,of course included Tj.And also,i mentioned i’m the fans of YC,it’s the whole experience,not only a yoga class.

To all members, teachers and staff who are thinking of gathering in High Court at 1.30pm today for the peaceful petition. Please be informed that you may be charged for illegal gathering if prior arrangements have not been made with the authorities. Its not worth it for you innocent people to get into trouble with the law. For your sake, do be careful

i can see some1 defending the “Old Terms” alot here and keep on shooting on me hard, yeah y not, just continue doing it, i’m enjoying it(while i can see y u would think such a jerk i am all time when i am working)
but if u wanna say more about the old “valuable” Terms, kindly revised it again, thx.

Management ? silence ? oh thx…
Leave ? Get Lost ?, Y not ?

No one is trying to close YZ down. Certainly not me! What do I get out of this if I close YZ down or bankrupt yz as some of you claimed? Think about it. I lose RM600K!!! My objective is to try and bring back YZ to its glory days. Members, staff and teachers, the last few months must have been very challenging for all of you. Irregular classes for members, irregular paychecks for the staff and teachers. For those who claimed that I am closing down YZ, come forward with proof. Stop all these rumours. Some of you are ignorant of the law and I don’t blame you for believing these rumour mongers. But get your facts right. Like the saying goes, empty vessels make the most noise and I am sure there are many out there (based on the blog). Read Charlane’s remarks on the definition of Receivership or get a dictionary to find out the meaning. This is not a popularity contest for who is the better person in this situation. All I can say is time will tell and the truth will prevail.

Receivership – A type of bankruptcy a company enters when a receiver is appointed by bankruptcy courts or creditors to run the company.

The responsibility of the receiver is to recoup as much of the unpaid loans as possible.

Being in receivership is not an ENVIABLE situation for a company. Often receivers find that the best way to pay back loans is to liquidate the company’s assets, which would effectively put it out of business.
Q1: What did all of us as members get at the end of the day??? NOTHING, NOT EVEN REFUND! NO MORE YOGA CLASSES! SAD!

Equitable remedy whereby a court orders property placed under the control of a Receiver so that it may be preserved for the benefit of affected parties(Q2: who are those?? creditors??) A failing company may be placed in receivership in an action brought by its creditors. The business is OFTEN CONTINUED but is subject to the receiver’s control. Q3: Can any1 promise this is us?? LAY GAIK??? TJ?? whoever that stand out front & promised, WE as members will sure FULLY support, as we only wanna YZ to sustain!!!

Receivership closely related to BANCRUPTCY.

“Yes,i hate the Tj that gives empty promises,but he always admitted and apologized when he coudn’t materialized the promise.”

Well, once is forgiven.. but more than that.. how can u forgive him for giving empty promises??

Its like ur wife/bf/gf/husband lied to u once and u forgive them.. but after that.. u can’t right? .. its not about forgiving people.. its now about Money..

Where has it gone to????? ….

For goodness sake..

not only the members don’t get their refund..

but also the teachers and staffs doesn’t get their 2/3 months pay..

who suffers more?..

BOTH OF THEM..

WHERE HAVE THE MONEY GONE TO? ..

we don’t know….

only TJ knows about it…

There are a group of teachers and members heading to kl high court, jln duta now for peace petition held at 1.30 pm in front of high court.

People who read this blog just want to find out the status of YZ Group not to read abt all the bickering and slanderin. When I read the blog yesterday, I cried out in frustration on the injustice written abt some of the teachers. Every1 needs to survive. What is so stupid abt pratictioners willing to pay for private classes? If YZ close down, don’t you think pratictioners won’t join other yoga centres? I know some of you are staff & teachers who are consider the victims aren’t we all as everyone is either a GC member or yearly member. No matter who you are, all we want is a place to practice yoga. So stop finding each other faults and unite.

YOGAMAN
Dont try to treaten all auntie auntie who know nothing about law we just want yz to continue open every day and we can practise yoga everyday we are going to high court now
i was told media will be there

high court. jln duta location map
http://www.mahkamah.gov.my/images/PetaKeMahkamahJlnDuta.jpg

Dear Lay Gaik,
yes,i understand the definition of receivership.
can you give few good examples that companies in Malaysia back to the glory days in Malaysia after receivership?
if u put in 600k investment,why don’t you try to help out as much as you can all these while?
he..he..i know you sue a lot of people woh…but don’t sue me lor…Yes,receivers are like ‘doctors’,but sometimes they heal sometimes they fail,so how huh?The receivers you appointed like no one knows,how to trust them leh??
you worry about your 600k investment,if me and my few friends buy from you,then no need to worry anymore,can ah?
simply because i like YC so much,that’s why i suggest to you lor,of course cannot sell higher at this situation as you mentioned .
Wow!Good!if i’m one of the shareholders!
Please reply,i’m sincere.
And one more thing,if if you invest 600k,then Tj must have invest 5.4million!!!so,what will happen to him?i can’t imagine if i lose(if only i have)that kind of money,sure commit suicide.

Dear Fei,QQ and all YZ supporter:
i give my whole energy to support you all!!!
TJ sure win!!!
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QQ,

Precisely my point. Am not threatening anyone here. They may not be aware of the law and the consequences. Just do not want them to get into any trouble that’s all.

Dear Lay Gaik,
Hmmmm…if you don’t mind,i just want to know is ‘receivership’ better than getting ‘investors’ in?
if receivership is so good,then next time i will ask my kids to study ‘receivership’,grow up can be a good ‘receiver’,like good doctor.but then,don’t understand why they want to break door and arrest Marcus lor??
‘receiver’ can be more powerful than ‘police’ meh?i really don’t understand…

I do agree with Lydm point of view.
Quote from Lydm:
“can you give few good examples that companies in Malaysia back to the glory days in Malaysia after receivership?” I too woull like to know just what Lydm is asking, “is receivership better than getting ‘investors’ in. Pls think carefully before anyone decide to support “receivership” as a better way out of this situation.

kind and hardworking human being accused of bad and irresponsible.
the real bad and irresponsible freak being thought as kind and hardworking.
real brain washer expert. pollutant.
what a world.
better let our planet come to Armageddon, reborn without such freaking ungrateful nasty species.

Om SHANTI, SHANTI, SHANTI. Om.
i keep my words! this is my last and final. will reserve my energy and focus on helping those who keep silent, defend less people. *not like the freak who claimed to have the last defend comment but still cakap kosong*

not my dept, just me, the one thing i agree with ms lay gaik is, TIME WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL’.

Dear Teachers and Members. Please do not go to the High Court! Looks like no one has applied for a permit to hold the “peace petition” and so, the polis will think that this is an illegal gathering.

The polis has warned in the past many many times in the newspapers already do not join illegal gatherings. They will then arrest you and you will then have a black record for life! It is not worth it. Please, please, please, do not let other people use you like an evil army putting women and children in front of their soldiers to hide their own soldiers from enemy shooting. If the people who tell you to go for this peace petition did not also tell you that it is illegal if no permit and that you can get arrested by polis, then they have lied to you by hiding the facts. Please, please, please turn away from the High Court NOW.

Teachers and Members who are seeing this blog, please call or SMS them to come back from the High Court NOW! I am doing the same.

Can anyone tell me, what is happen today? how come YZ domain suspended and cant I cant check the timetable anymore.

Why suddenly it under receivership?? Who apply for it?

TJ is trying to be bankrupt to not pay the workers salary… -.-”

Hi Wyatt,
TJ is trying hard to maintain Yoga Group, at least we witnessed ourself during the gathering at Kepong on last Sunday. Just give him some time to arrange. It is not easy to run business now and not easy to get a job too.

why?? I thought there is a new management to takeover?

Hi,

Is there anyone attended the high court (for listening the case and NOT for “peace petition”) can update us what is happenning and the outcome?

Thanks.

I just want to maintain my GC only..
I want to practice yoga peacefully ..
but.look now..what happende..really dissapointed..

I went to high court just now only see members from cheras turn up about 30 members 10 teachers and most staff that still working no polis stop us the guard at the high court aslo nice to us . finally i saw tj personally skinny tall guy he spoke to the media watch out for 5.30 tv7 and 8pm 8tv news his lawyer is with him

TJ????????????????????????????Tj ?????????????? ?????????? ,???????conman??????????????Receivership” as a better way out of this situation .

TJ????????????????????????????Tj ?????????????? ?????????? ,???????conman?????,?????????????Receivership” as a better way out of this situation .

Yoga Club Kepong have OFFICIALLY close down, as the receivership is already taking in to place! SO, WHAT’S NEXT NOW?

i got a big shot just now, the official website cant log in again,something bad had happened!!i thought after the new management took over,i can continue praticing yoga….i just sign up a pakcage at july,i just want to pratice yoga peacefully,what a simple thing,but very hard to achieve!! disappointed…

har??to”for goodness sake”:what u mean by OFFICIALLY close down?can say it detail,i already booking today class at 7:15….

Dear Everyone,

Since there was no improvement in YZ before the Receivership, I think we should let the Receivers have a chance at making YZ healthy again.

I hear and see a lot of questions on what “receivership” means. May be many people did not see the explanation by Charlane earlier. So I have copied here for you to see (sorry, Charlane, hope you do not mind) . . .
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Charlane on 9 August, 2008 at 2:16 am #

A simple explanation of a Receiver and Receivership in layman’s terms:

In the context of Law, a “Receiver” is a person or an independent consultancy or professional firm appointed by a Court to manage the operations and affairs of a Company that is in trouble (a “troubled Company”), especially if it is in critical financial difficulties. In ordinary terms, a Receivership is the process whereby the Receiver takes charge of the troubled Company. The primary objectives of the Receiver are to firstly review and assess whether or not the troubled Company can continue to be operational and is able to be profitable again. If it can be, then the Receiver will take charge, manage, operate and run the business as if the Receiver is the Management of the Company.

While under the Receivership, the Receiver will responsibly use the revenue generated from the continuing operations of the Company to ensure proper compliance with all the statutory obligations of the Company, such as Salary Payments, EPF, SOCSO, Corporate and Personal Income Tax and that all outstanding debts owed to creditors are settled eventually. Where necessary, the Receiver will also look for any investor(s) who would be interested in investing in the Company. In simple words, a Receiver is essentially a “White Knight” or a “Doctor” coming in to rescue or heal an ailing/sick company.

However, if despite all efforts made to turnaround the Company, the Receiver deems it no longer possible for the Company to carry on its operation profitably; the Receiver may have no other choice but to start a winding up of the Company as a last resort.
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I believe the receivers can and will continue to keep YZ alive. So, everyone who loves yoga and YZ, let us all come together and be positive and hope and pray that the Receivers will be successful. LET US ALL SEND GOOD THOUGHTS OUT TO THE UNIVERSE SO THAT OUR WISH FOR THE RECOVERY OF YZ CAN COME TRUE.

Let us all forget about and put to one side our small arguments but instead, let us all COME TOGETHER AS ONE YOGA MIND, ONE YOGA BODY, ONE YOGA SOUL and focus and concentrate and meditate on OUR BIG AGREEMENT that WE WANT YOGA ZONE TO CONTINUE LIVING AND BREATHING!

Namaste

Receiver took over yz with immediate effect.

YZ no longer arrange class schedule, members urge to call up outlet to check for class b4 come to outlet.

Can any lawyer pls clarify the following: Can the staff and teachers sue TJ for neglegence? If i’m not mistaken, TJ can not run away from law cos he didnt settle the staff’ EPF. Pls do something to stop him from leaving the country. The $ involved here is in MILLIONS!

I have joined up as member of YFC BremMall, Kepong in April 2008. Their consultant told me that they will open in August 2008!
Can anyone update me the status of the opening? How we can get back our money?
Thanks.

jessica i support you.

I have knew he will declare bankruptcy/ And he might pass the invincible money to other party n share among his parties.

We finally see his true aim.

sigh..

Where is the pay for the staffs? where?

a Yogi who do so much things…

A short news update from Sinchew Daily

http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/77710?tid=1

Lay Gaik, you mentioned that it is not your intention to close down YZ – which is a good news to me. Maybe you want to tell everyone what is happening to YZ now? Do we continue waiting, and if so until when? Noticed that a lot of teachers have given up on YZ and have moved on (eg. Azmi, Dr Ameen and Ninie -can anyone name any other teachers who has left?). My concern is that if the situation continues, YZ will lose all its teachers and members. There’s no point for us to go back to YZ if our favourite teachers are all gone. I too, want to move on in order to be able practice yoga regularly at a place where we can call our second home again. I am begining to question my loyalty to YZ and am starting to look around for yoga classes elsewhwere. I am sure a lot of members like me, are eager to continue practising at YZ. If YZ is dead already, do let us know.

Does anyone know where Azmi is teaching now? I heard that Ninie is offering private classes too. Is anyone interested?

Lets take a look at the folowing simple calculation:
according to newspaper, YZ got close to 19*** yearly member and 3*** GC member.
19000*$1488= $28millions (yearly member)
3000* $4000=12 million (GC member)
over the pass 6 years of operation, just take a net return of 20% out of the 40 millions sales is 8 milions. The renovation cost is one time off. Staff and teachers salaries are the main expenses.rental and electricity bill are limited.So how can the company be insolvent??
We should not jealous how much TJ had made from this biz but he has to be fair to his employees and members who have contributed to make him a millionaire.

So..wat’s the future of the staff, teachers and members? pls don support him blindly. The figure speaks clear enough.

Looks like the Green RM99 campaign also cant keep YZ alive for even one month. All the clubs will close until further notice. Receivers will only find there is nothing to salvage or pay to anyone cos YZ do not have anything of value. What more its a Sdn Bhd, right? TJ cannot even be sued bankrupt cos S/B is limited liability. Better look for a different place to practise/teach/work. Lets move forward…if anyone has joined any good yoga outlets or any teacher starting a new establishment/classes, pls inform us on this blog. Jess maybe you should start up a new topic on suggestions to move forward and still practise. This topic comments too……long…..di. If there are teachers out there who want to start up individual/group classes, pls let us know. Thanks.

I am a member who is equally concern about my membership. But I put myself in a neutral n non emotional position to analyse the situation.

If TJ is clean and transparent as he always claimed himself to be, he should have let the receivers takeover and proof him so.

Why create such a big drama using members to pursue his evil mission to rally at the court? The members were just being lucky not being booked into the lockups.

He should have just go through the proper channel to voice his dissatisfaction. Any businessman in the right frame of mind and ethics would not have resort to doing this.Something is definitely not right.

I don’t need to go to law school to understand that Receivership is not an overnight application. But I do have the commonsense to tell that there is more to the issue of Ms Lim Lay Gaik’s involvement in the picture.

If TJ have not done anything wrong as he again always claimed himself to be, Ms Lim would not be have pursue to this stage. Perhaps we do not know the history of what actually transpired between Ms Lim and TJ as we were so blinded by TJ’s flowery talks as well.

We only knew TJ through the blog. When he rattled on new management, apologising on mistakes after mistakes, making empty promises, the situation in the Company got worst.Of course any intelligent person could tell that today’s situation does not happen overnight either!

As a 90% owner, I m sure he is equally the main decisionmaker, should say the $$$ decisionmaker in the Company? Who else could have a bigger say than TJ and over ride his $ seal! So action speaks louder than words. Only God and TJ knows.

If Ms Lim’s action meant well for all, I certainly respect and support her.I urge all members to extend same. At the end of the day, just like any other business there is always a risk factor so lets stay positive and hope fot the best, Thank you.

Lay Gaik
I dont know who are u also dont care who will be the boss of YZ i think what most members wants is the new management team will ensure all terms and conditions for existing GC and yearly members remain the same.
anybody know whether tmr still have classes in cheras branch

Teachers and members is the assets of the company. without this 2 I think the company cannot sustain. If both of them gaveup, the company will gone. Pls get the problem solve soonest possible and sell the company soonest possible if there is really a Investor. The longer it drag the worse it is.

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Yoga Zone has never had a chance to advertise themself in a TV, perhaps it was due to budget, but with today 11/08,930 NTV7 news, i think YZ has “gained” a lot of FREE publicity, on the other hand, in the NTV7 News, saw a couple of people wearing Green shirt, i guess they are YZ staff, oh ya, if not mistaken, saw club manager from Cheras was there, just wondering what kind of benefits they are getting from them ? perhaps they dont mind continue to survive without single cent of pay, perhaps they still believed that the founder can find the new management for them, can someone knock their head to wake them up ? simply if he can find new management to come in, this could hv done long time ago…..what you see are empty promises given to members/teachers, blaming to other people screw up this plan, not to forget his “long time pets” have gone to MCA to file a complain, finance department, HR,Admin department, sales department all of the above departments are empty, simply if he still can be trusted or trustworthy, why people left him ? this is the question you have to think…think…think….deeply….

Doom day for YZ group. YC-Klang will be the next victim to close down.

Better end all this stories fast. By now everyone should believe the real person of Mr. T.J.

so, again classes will be off tomorrow….till when? Anyone can give me the answer???????

Look, we should all stand neutral as we do not know what has transpired to the stage that YZG is in now. Be it TJ or Lay Gaik or any other parties that will be taking over YZG, our concern as members, staffs and teachers is that YZG will take into consideration the well being of all of us. So why listen to rumors and make life miserable for yourself & everyone else? Stick to what we know, stay neutral & hope that YZG will stay for our sake.
Too many cooks spoil the broth – please remember this.

TJ should give a true current position to keep all affected parties informed to avoid all the speculations which are detrimental to the reputation and revival of the YZ group. Such as actual court order obtained by the 10% shareholder, is the order stayed pending the decision by the court on the application to set aside the order, operation of the outlets, who to refer to for any queries by members etc. These are crucial public relation exercise to mitigate adverse implications.

the 10% shareholder has its own point and stand. Looking at the main shares are being sold out like that and having owing so much money (by the one who is responsible for it). It is not wrong for him to apply a court order in order to save her share. If you were the one who has the smallest share, and u want to save yourself from loosing money and baring the debt, its obvious u need to find way to stop the bigger share holder and ask HIM to pay the debt all before he sell of his shares.

Dear Visitor,
I wish to attend Ninie’s class, please leave me information @ gurneyong@hotmail.com.
Thanks.

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To For goodness sake on 11 August, 2008 at 5:54 pm #
Yoga Club Kepong have OFFICIALLY close down, as the receivership is already taking in to place! SO, WHAT’S NEXT NOW?

Can tell me wat’s going on and it is only happend at YZ kepong?
Y only Kepong branch? Pls..someone crarify here..
Truly appreciate..Thxx

To LyDm, One good suggestion: no need send your kids to study “receivership”. Just study under Mr TJ will do. Then you ‘tar bai keok also ng sai yau’…!!(whack the kaki until patah also no need to worry)

To Tj.
Some of ur best 16 officially anounced after the clasS they going to open a yoga studio near ur existing center.Is that ur plan? Are u one of the share holder again when u out from Yoga zone?

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Render to God things that are God’s and render to man things that are man’s.
Is YZ still valueble?
1. Excellent concept of the zone with ‘Zen’ style in M’sia. 2. Dedicated and high motivated consultant team. 3. Good teachers. Why YZ ruined?
1. There is no philosophy of yoga education in the zone. E.g Some teachers are create ‘Luxury culture’. New Nike permonth, more than 100 suit. Show what?Can resale all Nike to rescue YZ? 2)Consultant eagerly sell GC package, give members a lot of misleading info. Really, high commission? Work for what? GC package is earn quick money for your boss. not guarantee for future? Most of house wives ignorance, they only think, cheaper already, 10 outlets,good timing to sign GC.
Who want to invest with big capital? 10 outlets is not YZ’s properties, still belongs to landlord.
10% shareholder, its your foolish to invest like GC members too. Is the class not on, who want to compensate members?

After months, nothing had improved …
if we had given many chances earlier yet no positive outcome, why not allowing the lady an equal chance to do her best… we have been “losing” in SECURING our ‘position’ all this while and there is nothing to lose further.. no ‘global warming’ mentally, conserve the good energy for the good of you and surrounding. njoy the breath of every present moment…

metta/ss

To: Member No 1 and For Goodness Sake,
Kepong branch did not close down. Its becoz YZ staff have all resigned and there is no one to open the studio for members to come in. Thanks to the big mouth founder! You got to call up to makesure outlet is open before you come for classes.

To YZ staff n teachers,

To protact yourselves, pls go to Jalan Duta income tax office block 8A kanan 1st floor to check whether the company has settled your tax(PCB) or not. Remember to bring along your pay slip. The next is to EPF department to complain that your EPF was not settled. By doing this, EPF n IRD will go after TJ. Sdn Bhd is limited liabilities up to the paid up capital of the company. If u want to have a clearer detail can do a search in ROC (Registrar of company). $10 can get the computer print out of the company already. There is no way u can sue TJ once he had left the country. Act now or continue to believe his “promises”… is your choice

Is YZ outlets opened today? No one is answering the phone in YZ Damas. What about the other outlets?

It is under receivership, so all the outlets should be closed. Bye bye YZ

A businessman always plan for their retirement and TJ has planned well. Good work TJ.

I am praying in my heart things will recover for YC not bcos I am a lifetime member but I am not sure I will ever find a place to practice the flows that is taught here by the various teacher. I so miss them all. TJ, whatever you have done not so well you sure have a great vision where yoga is concerned. Hopefully your vision continues with the new management. God bless.

I hope the receivership news is not true! Hopefully someone is not spreading rumours AGAIN.

Not sure about the receivership but the court yesterday order YZG to stop the handover to new management. So there is no new management coming in anytime soon. Read the new link provided by Yoga Lover, http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/77710?tid=1

Why you all don’t watch tv or read newspaper one ah? Highcourt will decide today whether to set aside receivership filed by the 10% shareholder for the 90% shareholder to continue handing over the operation of YZ to new investor. This is what the majority of YZ members’ wanted. So, wait for the good news lah!

TJ,
What happen to yoga zone at Plaza Damas? The website has been suspended. What a shame. Thought it’s back to normal since last week. Can u please let us know what happen? Really dissappointed with YZ.

Dear all YOGA praticers,
Let’s pray together for YZ & YC.
You believe in the power of mind, don’t you???

ummm, maybe just one more thing from me, i cant helped it, i must say it – “I TOLD YOU SO”

last night 8tv mandarin news
http://www.8tv.com.my/Shows/EpHighlight.aspx?MasterID=23&ShowID=25&MenuID=2&TemplateID=1&SubMenuID=1&VideoID=12412&EpID=11135#anchorVid

http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2008-08-12&sec=mas&art=0812mf19.txt

Is their court case will settle today? may be take a long time.Why highcourt instruct to close? There is a reason, poor TJ have to suffer.
Yoga is a new concept in M’sia. There is no research yet in yoga M’sia, a lot of issues will arise.
What is YZ’s framework? health&fitness ? beauty & slimming? school of yoga? If provide training involve teachers, is there any approval frm Ministry of Education. Any teaching permits issue to teachers? Is YZ commitee of Asia Yoga Alliance?
Are Yoga Zone, Yoga Club, YZ Academy, YFitness independently? Is YC & YZ Academy subset to yoga Zone? Is Yoga club established legally under YZG? I only know Yoga Zone in plaza damas & The Weld.How about YC in Cheras, legal or not? Is Yoga Zone a francaise from USA? How to actualice the latent idea? Probabilities-escape from Income tax,avoid paying royalty to francaisor USA, avoid to pay staff & teacher salary & EPF. Transfer the fund to other company. Any profesion accountant in YZG? Would YZ announce bankruptcy?

can anyone pls translate whats in the press release for those of us who are bananas. Tknx

I called Bdr Puteri Puchong branch nobody picks up the phone. Yogazone website cannot be found also. What’s wrong with YZ? I just want to do my yoga.

Vone,
be patience…our receiver Lay Gaik will settle!

Hello ex member, i went to http://www.yoganborneo.blogspot.com but there’s nothing. Just wonder is it removed or need to register? Coz i’m lousy in all these. Please let me know coz. Thanks.

why so hurry to do receivership? Let’s have new management. Let continue the YZ classs. We have waste weeks time.

i don’t think that she will settle , she just want the whole yoga zone close down, it will makes 250 workers jobless, and 10,000 member losing their place to practice yoga. do you wish this kind of things happen? i don’t think so

Go and learn yoga some where else, YZ is under deep shit now…

takziah kepada para blogger yang sedang menanti-nantikan hari ini untuk masa yang lama, perempuan yang mengamuk-amuk itu sudah berjaya! budak hodoh tu pahlawan! Bos sudah disingkirkan daripada syarikat kepunyaannya sendiri!
Semasa berada di mahkamah tinggi semalam, memang rasa bangga kerana kami hanya mempunyai satu misi, untuk meomohon arahan STAY kepada arahan mahkamah pada hari jumaat supaya YZ tidak diambil alih oleh orang yang bertujuan membuat demikian, pengamuk yang hendak menelan syer orang lain yang 10 kali gandanya.
Semasa kami sampai di mahkamah pada petang, saya memang telah meneliti seorang si gemuk yang sedang merekod apa-apa yang bos cakap dengan pemberita. Dia sanggup mengekori kami macam anjing sampai ke bilik mahkamah, lepasnya, pewakil LG yang si pendek itu cepat-cepat masuk dan cuba sedaya upaya untuk menghalang pewakil kami Dato Manpal dan Adrian untuk mendapat arahannya, dan semasa kami berada di mahkamah, diberitahu lima orang macam gangster dan penerimanya sudah masuk ke dalam HQ, memangnya dengan cara ganaslahyang mereka masuk, kalau saya di sana, hantam buaya-buaya ni cukup-cukup.
hari ini kami pergi ke mahkamah lagi, kerana mereka telah menjalankan tugasnya sebagai penerima, STAY tu tak guna lagi, hakim pun beritahu hanya buln depan baru pendegaran, wah! perempuan mengamuk itu sudah mencapai tujuannya! 600 ribu untuk membeli sepuluh cawangan dan jenama yoga zon! merampas anak orang lain dan jadi sebagai anak sendiri, kalau tidak bersilap, dia memang perempuan tua yang tidak beranak, itu sebabnya dia mengamuk lah! sekarang bos sudah tiada bisnisnya, kamu semua masih sanggup menuduh kesalahan semua ini terhadap dia, lebih baik awak tanya itu mr. chiok lah! gaji bila dibayar???
LG, berapa usia kamu? satu hari kalau awak mati, tak takut kah? kalau awak masih tidak berkahwin, ini sebabnya hati busuk awak yang tidak mungkin ada laki sayang; kalau awak bercerai, memang suami awak yang menyesal bersama perempuan sial, kalau awak ada anak, saya kasihan anak awak, lebih baik bagi orang lain, jangan bagi dia ikut teladan awak, kalau awak tidak beranak, sekarang boleh ambil anak bos jadi anak awak lah, tapi tak payah ajak penerima to yang mewakili kamu, sendiri yang muncul lah! penakut! poenderhaka! penfitnah!
saya rasa amat gembira kerana lawyer bos ada sesuatu bukti yang awak tidak mungkin tahu yang boleh biar orang tahu kebenaran!
saya penyokong PKR, saya hanya percayai keadilan, sekarang bos yang rugi kesemua wangnya, awak, memang happy kerana menelan kesemuanya, hati-hati nanti perut bocoh, usus keluar.
budak hodoh, makan sama-sama dengan tuan buaya kamu lah! jangan guna pintu belakang, nanti mampus baru tahu.

How can a company which has such a huge network and collect literally millions of ringgit upfront be closing down? I smell a king-sized rat.

well company has officially crumble..

time for suing …

For those who love yoga zone will contribute much more more more effort,we knew it.
For those who just care herself(money)will make the situation critical and worst.you are totally money lover ,not the yoga lover.

Nothing new about it. Already know it from the beginning that the whole group going to collapse and the ex-owner, Mr. T.J still denying this and that and continue with his lies…now face the reality!!!!
To all yoga & pilates lover, if you still want to continue your practise, ask around as some of the teachers are in those well established fitness centers or those small/ medium size centres. Let the Yogazone rest in peace.

All creditors, now is the time you can go and claim/ fight for your $$$. Good luck in getting it which i am in doubt you will get anything. Perhaps a couple of used mats, towels….or if you need some furnitures…may also get from there….

yeah !!! yeah!!! Yeah!!! lalang pergi makan rumput

Lay Gaik,
Tell us what is your actual plan so as to pacify those speculating and blaming and accusing with no base and concrete evidence. They attacked TJ, now they r going to attack u. Those attackers really amazing, have no constructive solutions but just “sabotagging and bad- mouthing” for the sake of releasing their own fear and frustration. Forgive them for they don know what they r doing. I still hope YZ will stay and grow.

LG,
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uglykid,
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You are the same, only care about your few thousand membership fee.

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I also lost my thousand, but if you just let the situation keep on like that. Not dont wanna give chance to him, but what if after august, he then said, by october, everything will be fine. You know the wolf coming story?

the judgment is really unfair!!!Someone try to save the company coz he cares to members and staff. But someone(the auntie-LG)try to save herself in this critical situation,never think off to members and all the Yz staff…. you really cruel….

To Harry,
It cannot be denied that membership fee did mean something. But if two options are provided: Refund/Attend Yoga Class, I believe most of the people who r yoga lover will choose attend yoga classes.

hmmm…i agreed LyDm, Rm600,000 is such a big amount, but TJ n other shareholder are same! TJ choosse to facing his problem running around facing media n many ppls trying to find better way to solve all this thing, but LGaik choose to hide n tell arounf that her capital Rm600,000 Dear all, pls give TJ time help him to come over this….together pray for TJ…

LG…where you hiding and smiling when this critical time…you never contribute anything when problem are there…? only “receivership”! you only appear yr ugly face here..OMg…i guess you not much have friends around you,.may be you no need friends..Alone yrseld in whole life….haha

Hey LyDm,
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I feel that both sides will have their own stories, we shouldn’t be attacking and cursing LG right now until we know the TRUTH. RM600k is also her hard earned money and for her to take this desperate measure, she must have a good reason which she can’t share here because it’s a court case! So before you write anything nasty about anyone, TJ or LG, chant OMMMMMMMMMMMM…

I have been waiting patiently for yogazone to get its act together. Missed almost 3 weeks of yoga classes because of the limited classes.
Any yoga instructor starting their own private classes? Please email me (littlechemicalgiant@yahoo.com) details of class. I’m a beginner and would really like to start yoga practice asap. Thanks.

Lim Lay Gaik,
You already won the war,however,we completely don’t know what happened.if you dare,you two should appear in front of public,one to one forum,no assistant or representative,let’s the members,employees and others can have a clearerpicture,if we have to accept YZ failed today,not only Tj shall be blamed,but BOTH of you!!!
so when?
i know you are telling people you want to check the account and that’s why receivership,you think you stupid i follow you stupid ah?you just want to wind up the company from the back and kick TJ out then you can decide with the teachers to buy back from the receivers at cheap price!
Now let me do my prediction,this will be happened within the next few months,but make sure you clear all staff matters first!
DEAR ALL,
Do you agree?Our money is paid,all directors should be responsible!i had asked my aunt to check ROC for me,others directors all must give us answer!!!
they are:CHIA FUI HONG,LIM KEE HENG,LIM CHEW FOONG,TAN AH ENG.
anyone knows who are them?
Let’s make everything transparent!

To Harry,
‘Investment’ comes with returns and risks,’fee paid’ is not an ‘invesment’,i deserve to get back what i pay,if no classes,then refund.

How’s this morning court hearing ? any1 ??

Any suggestion for other yoga centres in Bukit Bintang?

PLS EVERYBODY I HAD ENOUGH OF GOSSIPS, COMMENTS, COMPLAINTS AND PPL BEING JUDGEMENTAL…..SORRY FOR BEING RUDE!!!
I WANT NOTHING BUT JUST YOGA…….
I AM SO SO SICK OF ALL THESE AND
I WANT NOTHING BUT JUST YOGA…….
I CANT BREATH WITHOUT IT
I CANT LIVE MY LIFE WITHOUT IT
I WANT MY MONDAY CLASS WITH LERIC
WEDNESDAY CLASS WITH LERIC
AND FRIDAY CLASS WITH LERIC
AM I ASKING FOR TOO MUCH????

to Yen:
are you kepong member?i really happy when i saw you said kepong branch do not close down..you mean the class still held as usual,can i go for the class?thanks a lot first if you answer my question for more details..thank you!!

angels..

u just want leric is it?..

u can practice alone..

enlightenment doesn’t come by practicing with others, but is one where u practice by yourself more.

This is where most yogis made their mistake.

I don think a receivership is an bad idea. I guess everyone shd clam down.

A receiver is a qualified professional. They will access the feasibility of the COmpany to continue to run or not. They also have power to control the operation of the Company.

Just let the PROFESSIONAL to do thing.

We all just be patient.

p/s: I’m not in any side. This is what I hv make known abt receivership-may be someone more experience can explain more.

HEY LYDM, WHAT IS ROC??

Dear All, I heard there will be a receiver meeting at plaza damas with staffs, and teachers in the morning. So hope to get good news, hope classes will be resumed, i want my teacher azmi back.

When The receiver come in, it can be in a quite rough way. They just come in surprisingly.They can immediately order the top management (even the directors) to leave as well. They can resigned all of them. All I say is they can have quite huge of power.

I hv known this from a friend who previous employer facing the same. The Company was under NPL. So Receiver was appointed by the bank. They come in exactly the same as what happended to YZ.
The boss and other directors were there. They were immediately order to leave and not allowed to bring anything that belong to the Company from the office.

Some staffs continue with the company like normal. The Receivers bring the new management to lead.They just stay thr for 2 years,later they found a new buyer,and sell off the Company.The business still continue operation. Some staffs re-employed.

So what will happend to YZ? We don know…
Again… patient… It is not an end yet.
/SMILE/

yes i just want leric class and no one else…i cant seem to practice alone at home..the flow of an hour or two just not there…calmness of mind and the peacefulness just not there. i like the sound of breathing and movements with soothing music to calm my mind and heart. HOME…phone rings, dog
barking…cars passing by and ppl
shouting “BUY old newspaper, BUY old newpaper”

To LyDm,
Dont you think you are too over? Dont you think you are brainless? Dont you think you have overlooked yourself?

You have no point of pointing fingers at LG and cursing her. She is an INVESTOR. She invest only when she feels right, she invested such an amount of money to YZ. Than that is her plan to do anything with it.

Why dont you blame TJ? Why dont you curse him? Why dont you pin point out his failures.

It’s sad to see that YZ is now on a receivership. But what can we do, we cant do anything. If you wanna blame, then you blame all the people only TJ are not to blame. Its hard to accept by anyone that YZ if on for good. Still there you cant do anything.

So kindly read closely to TJ comments. Near to 85% of his comments are fake. Did you trust him? I dont. Even I knew him for a long time but still I dont trust him about the comments that he post.
His intention is to get ppl to be aware of this situation. His acting are so disgusting. Have you been to the so-call staff day? I’ve been there. You know where his Velancia house? I know. Do you know what car he drives? ok, its a car with four wheels.(Im sure u will guess it right this time)

This doesnt happen in a month or so. IT has been happening for the start when he expend to quick. Back fired him self. Whats the point getting so angry…? inhale…exhale… before you comment anything.

If not, try to get his 90% of his share with so call 5.4Mil. Then you will be the hero of YZ. let LG be the bad guy. Came on… its very simple to say then to act.

Members do deserve to be back to class. But if Yz are not able to make it??? Who will pay the coming month’s salary? you still want it to struggle for surviving ??? 99 per month …. later …. 88 per month and so ??? Classes are already been reduce, things has changed.

Just use your brain to think. Think before you act… think before you do anything, you might as well get rid of LG when you are able to get 51% shares from TJ.

Do think…

For YZ Weld and Damas survivor:
Dont act as a fool. You are so commited to it… its good. But still, your days with YZ are still young, unmatured. Double crossing and overlook yourself as a such superior person. Dont blame me for so sick with both of your comments, coz they really are. Dont understand? nvm, others alredy know how both of you are able to WORK on …. since now both YZ left you both… I mean YZ damas and weld. not clubs.

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Will be pulling out from here starting today. Enjoying read all comments. Thank you for such a happening place. Enjoy ~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!

angels. =.=”

then find urself a place which you find peacefulness in you.. its just a challenge.

A good practitioner will not be affected by those things. I mean you can find nice soothing music to play.. or u can join with other yogi friends and maybe go their house and practice.

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LyDm, stop being emotion. Just wait for few more days see mayb things can be able to turn around.U had forgotten to ask TJ where have all the $ gone? This is the main issue tat cause the company insolvent now. So far we dont now who is a fraud. TJ said he is looking for buyer; TJ said he will settle the salary; TJ said he is going to sign the memorandum…. all he SAID only..Who knows wat is the actual truth? Stop attacking Lay Gaik at this moment. Just wait and see. In case LG able to turn around the company, are u going to apologise to her? pls think!!

Really sad to know that the receivership was not set aside. Now, not sure whether the receiver know how to teach yoga? or find teachers? How soon they can resume yoga classes? Hopefully the receiver don’t just come in to look for used mats, hairdryers & furnitures to pay for their fees…not even enough to pay their petrol I think! Really illogical for a 10% shareholder to file this receivership when knowing new investor was about to sign MOU yesterday. What to do now? just pray for miracle to happen loh

A person no need to be a cook in order to run an restaurant.
A person no need to be a pilot in order to run a air flight company.
A person no need to know how to sing in order to run a musical production company
A person no need know how to sew in order to run a textile factory
A person no need…

Some job need technical skills in order to perform it, some not. Just depend want the postiion of the job.
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Do nothing better than not doing anything.

Do something and not seeing any progress…hai hai hai…

Do something but just not fast enough than other ….u r out!

Not attack any person. But just see that some ppl really act fast.
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Temporary no yoga classes, better than no yoga classes.

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(“‘) Ooish! Ganbateh! Whoever out thr!

Dear Lay Gaik,I support your move. I will do the same if i were you. To the rest, PLS look at the bigger picture n wake up!!!

Oops! I see ‘Teacher 2′ already explained on Receivership in previous comment.

Just too many comments here. Can’t read everything.

I think he make it clear. So why some still so emotional.

PEACE.
V

jessica on 11 August, 2008 at 7:40 pm #
Can any lawyer pls clarify the following: Can the staff and teachers sue TJ for neglegence? If i’m not mistaken, TJ can not run away from law cos he didnt settle the staff’ EPF. Pls do something to stop him from leaving the country. The $ involved here is in MILLIONS!

hi jessica, i thk NOW all the staffs that need to get back their salary and epf HAVE to go to find the receiver, not the stupid Tj anymore. maybe Tj might go with all staffs as well cause he also staff of YZ b4.

uglykid on 11 August, 2008 at 5:45 pm #
TJ????????????????????????????Tj ?????????????? ?????????? ,???????conman?????,?????????????Receivership” as a better way out of this situation .

uglykid, i had read ur comment from very previous time tat u always rudely fight and WAR with other bloggers. u r a teacher right? hope u wont continue to teach in ur rest of ur life, pls… i beg u.. ur this kind of attitude is really hard to tolerate!and i hate ur kind of always personally attack ppl, u really bad in attitude, such a uglykid u r.. really hope i didnt attend ur classes before..???????????
anyone here know who is uglykid? i hope to know who she is, can anyone tell us? i think most of the ppl here hope to know..

hi yogaman, i felt tat u r a nice person and know yoga so well, are u a teacher also? u advised member not to go to the high court, you show ur caring, anyway they r fine right?

hi all, from the news, we knew tat Tj had found the new investor yesterday, wat a big good news to all of us! our YZ is back and we can practise yoga again! but LG suddenly appointed receiver, made everything became worse! no classes at all! LG, can u tell us we can get back YZ to practise yoga again? pls say something here.. the receiver or u will pay all staff salary and their EPF?? everyone here, pls think clearly, if all the current YZ outlet will open again but the owner is YZG previous higher management staff or YZ teacher or YZ member, im sure this is a conspiracy tat they all want to kick out Tj!
higher management: LG, Phillis, Stephanie Chia, Paulling Long, Vennie Lok, Chrisandra Pang, Vivian Goh, Kim.

jesslw

good spirit

YZ in receivership or not, life moves on. TJ is acting, lying, telling the truth, working hard, dunno. Same to the lady that successfully stopped all the classes, trying to save/destroy YZ? Dunno. Trushworthy? Dunno. Too many drastic changes…like watching a hong-kong made tv series/soap opera. Too many episodes, getting bored and disgusted, no longer can hang in there and give support anymore.

Just want my yoga practice. As simple as that. If you want to find other places to continue your yoga practice, this website is very helpful.

http://www.klyoga.com/

Jesslw,
“A person no need to be a cook in order to run a restaurant”. You are very much right. But at this critical juncture, i do not think anyone can easily just pick up the business and run it. Isn’t it more time is going to be wasted just to learn the entire operation? More time will be wasted.
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Ken, Stephanie, Ken’s Sister are the director of YZ, You guys agreed to get YZ into receivership. What do you get out from this deal? Are you going to be responsible to your decision? Can you be sure this is for the good of the entire members and staff? Or to cover your own mistake by sending YZ into the receiver’s hand and no one will dig your mistake out? Can you tell the members why you want to do so?
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seth_ron@panas,
if you invested by ‘feel’,they you deserve the failure.pinpointing LG?TJ?and now killed YZ.Tj has been pinpointed enough by you and uglykid,LG deserves at least 10% of the pain,whatever you had written in this blog to her.well,she has long way to go.I can’t wait for lalang new discovery on her!!!
Tj stays in a low cost flat with his parents woh…one of the members that’s their neighbour from YC KEPONG told in another blog,you mean his house in Spain?i just googled and Valencia is in Spain,you been there?He drives four wheel?i drive four wheel too,four wheel pajero or my four wheel MyVi?Hmmm…a lot of teachers drive four wheel mercedes,four wheel BMW also,so how many wheels you drive?

Everyone’s attention has been switched from TJ to Lay Gaik since yesterday’s evening. Agreed to jesslw and seth_ron@panas that be patient. Hope we all can overcome our prejudice on TJ or Lay Gaik and face the fact.

TJ was the one caused this crisis and so many of us here were so patient previously and willig to give him a chance to resolve the problem and kept on waiting but in return with all empty promises. So why not be fair to Lay Gaik to give her some time to handle the situation now as keep on arguing and pin pointing won’t help to improve. Believe most of us here have the same objective, i.e. want YZ to resume operation so that teachers and staffs secure the jobs they like and we members can continue enjoy praticing yoga in a comfort environment. But one thing is all of us eager to know the progress and status but seems no one can tell us…

Hi Lay Gaik,
Now everyone is watching on your move and we all hope this receivership will protect the interests of YZ, teachers and staff and at the same time not forget about the benefits all the existing members (please don’t leave the members behind). Would appreciate if you could kindly advise and update everyone thru the publicity soonest possible to clear everyone’s doubts. Thank you and Gambate!

Guess u’ll never understand the words
“PEACEFULNESS” and “CALMNESS”
Anyway, thanks for your comment and
appreciate it alot..
i am not here to challenge any comments
but am speaking from the bottom of my
heart. Dont CONDEMN and CRITISIZE but
“UNDERSTAND” IS THE KEY WORD.

LyDm
if i’m not mistaken. valencia is the v high end housing estate next to seramas la…. OH MY GOD!! i salute u la!!!!

LyDm, pls stop pointing yr fingers at Lay Gaik. Dont make yourself like a fool and jump around like a raw prawn..! This is not the end of the world yet.

According to my lawyer and double check with KWSP,whatever who is the new boss now,the EPF,SCOSO and INCOME TAX still need to pay by the old owner even though he is bankruptcy but he still have to pay it.
Most of the staffs and members been TJ “chessman” long time ago but nobody notice until yesterday and today all people found out the story what TJ and Marcus told us before already change and deny….
Everybody was realise and wake up,HEARTACHE!
TJ,we fight for you about 4 months without pay and until now is for what?In the end just change back your personal’s trick?
Everbody was crying….

He can’t turn bankruptcy overnight.. As long as he is still in the country, he got to settle it. What he did already against EPF ACT or IRD ACT. Pls bear in mind also there are tons of bankrupcy corporate boss still live in v comfortable life just because they had sucessfully transferred the $ into thier front man’s account. Staff n teachers..Pls act fast to protect your welfare.

uglykid on 29 July, 2008 at 11:02 am #
i don’t think you are able to laugh for days to come. OF-COURSE it wont be my last and there’ll be more to come by looking at what’s happening to you now! Next 6 months, hahahaha! what a joke! there’ll be no 6 months for you, Con -man!
Dear lovelove,
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????????????????????????????????TJ?????????????????????Tj?????????????????????????TJ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????TJ?????YZ?
LG???????????????????????????600????????????????????????????????????
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Tj,????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

i hv many friends do business here but keep their money and buy houses in Australia ………

tingngsoon (beh tahan)?
if you beh tahan,please don’t read my comment!now i really cannot tahan anymore!

Someone said the founder :-

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how many of you agreed the above ? btw, today newspaper 12/8, he said that he wanted to make announcement on the new management today, “so happens” and because of today’s court hearing, it spoils his new management plan, extremely “in coincidence”…….why today, not yesterday, not last week, perhaps today is a “good day” ? well if he found the new management, truly believed he can talks to LG or lawyer to find way to settle outside the court….

LyDm=Fairlady=ZEN

To Marcus:

You are not a shareholder of the YZ group and totally have no right in questioning the shareholders decision. If you cant accept their decision then you are free to go and buy over their shares and build up YZ together with Mr.T.J

Stop accusing other shareholders for hiding mistakes etc, the person you should ask is your ‘boy’ friend, Mr.T.J….he knows everything and until todate still denying every single thing and make himself so holy. He owe members, staffs and teachers an explanation and by the way,everyone is also sick of his rubbish explanation. No point to hear anything from him. Shame on him!

So, Mr. Marcus make actions instead of sitting here and accusing others.

LyDm, halooooooooooooooo!!!!
wat da shit u talking bout. mong cha cha
ask ppl dun wan read ur comment!!
u dun wan write la “stupid” ;p

LyDm?
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to yz teachers

anyone of you interested to open a yoga center in sg long a vacant shop is available good location just next to KFC rental at special discount for yz teachers

Hi Lay Gaik,i am member,when yogazone will reopen ?

Hahaha! who expect the receiver to teach yoga? just jokinglah…but think about it, if the receiver and his staff are all yoga masters, straight away tomorrow can resume class..this is call miracle mah and all members happy, who care about conspiracy and political between 10% & 90%? Good nite!

I heard ppl said just Change COmpany name then all the debts like rental no need to pay then reopen the buss. is it true?

Dear Green Green head, Marcus

Your key point is “responsible”

who will be responsible to pay the amount owing to supplier, teacher and staff ? you ?

who will be responsible to arrange the class if the teachers don’t their basic pay to survive ? you ?

how you know the people mentioned by you made mistakes ? do you think in order to make a company going into receivership or liquidating is an easy job? without solid proof and documentation.

Dear Sad,

Cannot lah, eventhough change company name, its still the same company. unless they close down & liquidate YZ and open another company under different entity. Change name also no use, still need to bear all the liabilities, the existing name still need to be appeared underneath the new name for a period of 1 year.

What we worry now is the YZ will be liquidated if the receiver manager still fail to make YZ alive….

I’ve printed out corp info from CCM, found YZ made profit in 2007 what… izzit the full name called The Yoga Zone Group Sdn Bhd? paid up capital only 250K??

LG, I am going crazy without the classes.Please clarify the court issue. Is the company going to resume business or not ?With so much money collected, where has the money gone ???Something is definitely very wrong.

Dear Lay Gaik, u r the only hope to bring justice to yourself and the members now. Pls do your best to ensure the welfare of the teachers and members.
Pls don’t disappoint us. Prove the ignorence wrong. To the rest, this is the appropriate way to handle a business if the company is in bad debt and beyond rescue. Face it!!

Hi all,

I read through and absolutely understand the situation now with YZ. I’ve been waiting patiently for the news while I also practice once YZ in Cheras Plaza resumed last week.

I was shocked when I was trying to log in to the website for schedule on Monday. The website was suspended. I was trying to call CP outlet for clafications but I wasn’t being attended.

I’m yet to give up my faith to YZ and I tried to log in on Tuesday, nothing has changed. I was trying to call the CP outlet but again failed. Think I might be calling at the wrong timing.

However, I just need some regular practitioners in CP or staff in CP to let me know whether are there still classes held for this week?

Namaste!

jediknights,
You pemegang syer kah? Mulut banyak banyak! Green green head? Awak punya head lah! Pandai-pandai aje, ajak semua pengarah bertanggungjawab la, kalau berani, awak tanggungjawab lah! Betapa saya harap awak ini pengarah yoga zon, atau ajak receiver sekarang lantik awak sebagai chairman la, memang sangat responsible, memang berjaya!

check this out. take a look at bil#6. that happened in May2008, that means the disagreement didnt happen recently. usually how long do one have to wait for putting a case up in court? lets think about it…thank you google… the powerful search engine.

http://www.mahkamah.gov.my/causelist/hc/hcd6/latesthcd6/2008/Hakim%209HB%20MEI%20%202008.pdf

“Those attackers really amazing, have no constructive solutions but just “sabotagging and bad- mouthing” for the sake of releasing their own fear and frustration. Forgive them for they don know what they r doing. I still hope YZ will stay and grow” — Post by OMG. People have every right to attack and bad mouth when caught in a situation like this. What constructive solutions? Let’s hear yours. And may I suggest that it should not start with “I have a dream…..”

“YZ in receivership or not, life moves on. TJ is acting, lying, telling the truth, working hard, dunno. Same to the lady that successfully stopped all the classes, trying to save/destroy YZ? Dunno. Trushworthy? Dunno. Too many drastic changes…like watching a hong-kong made tv series/soap opera. Too many episodes, getting bored and disgusted, no longer can hang in there and give support anymore. Just want my yoga practice. As simple as that. If you want to find other places to continue your yoga practice, this website is very helpful” – Post by Yoga Desa. You are absolutely right. Move on. It is no crying over spilt milk or flogging a dead horse. It is a merry-go-round and a circus. Move on and join other Yoga classes. That is Life.